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Protect College Sports Act [formerly “SCORE Act” thread]

Tony4Canes said:
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Nat that anyone care or asks, but I'm a (largely) conservative guy and I agree with Quincy's take.
We all know there are problems in college athletics, especially football.
But to me the issue isn't the players making big money, especially when the coaches
at big programs are the ones who actually making the big salaries.
The bigger issue is the eff-d up schedule in college fb, too much overlap between recruiting seasons,
portal windows, bowl season, spring games and....wait for it.....regular season, not to mention NFL
teams having their timelines of hiring/firing coaches which often interferes with college fb operations.
And all this due to primarily money seeking coaches, athletic departments, sports media, sports apparell
companies, and so on......but let's go after the players for making some money.
Ridiculous.
 
So with Miami and FSU putting out basically the same tweet within minutes signify in addition with the progressive deal signify we are potentially a package deal for the B10? Or is it just mutual interest as big Florida brands?
 
Highline17 said:
So with Miami and FSU putting out basically the same tweet within minutes signify in addition with the progressive deal signify we are potentially a package deal for the B10? Or is it just mutual interest as big Florida brands?
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In addition to expressing gratitude, we're trying to publicly lock the senators into a position to make it harder for them to back down when the pressure comes from Trump.
 
RightSaidFred said:
Even if you take race out of it, it’s eyebrow raising. Usually…

Sees a perceived problem -> Thinks Government needs to step in and regulate

Sees a wage disparity-> Thinks government needs to redistribute the wealth

Isn’t how Republicans think, but in this case that’s exactly what they’re doing.

It’s hypocritical and inconsistent, and it makes you wonder about their motives
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First- race didn't need to be introduced into it- yet the race baiters brought that card. I am actually surprised they didn't mention slavery too.

And- as a guy who spent over 28 years in the G- the only way to get collegiate sports under control is via the fed govt. I am not saying that is a good thing- however, they possess the power to have oversight due to the hundreds of jurisdictions that collegiate athletics touch. I am all for whatever benefits Miami- and you are correct- Dems love to have the federal govt dictate how you should live your life, (just revisit Covid) however, the options are very limited if you want to at least put some lanes into all of this.

I am confident that the Miami leadership- a 180 from Donna S- will get Miami where they need to be in order to find continued success.
 
Miami will get the last B1G spot and eventually ND will join the B1G in all sports but football and have a scheduling agreement with the B1G instead of the ACC.

That's my prediction.
 
Kinda seems like FSU fans are wish-casting quite frankly. The B1G did not want Clemson and FSU, and Disney/SEC didn’t want them last go around either. Since then, their leadership has looked incompetent as their debt grows because of renovations and other projects, and they’re the only football team to beat Alabama and still be considered sorry.

Why would they be a more attractive offer now than then? Back then, even if the SEC were willing to admit them, their admittance wouldn’t limit future plans to pursue other schools. Now it absolutely would; presuming the bill passes. The SEC wants some combination of #1 UNC unconditionally, no matter what, that brings them to 17, and afterwards UVA, GT, or Clemson to pair w/ UNC. 19 is particularly dangerous across all sports, but especially football.

The cap at 19 complicates things because it’s an odd number. We’ve already heard nonstop *****ing about moving from 8 to 9 conference games. 16 x 9 =144. 18x9=162. 17x9=153 & 19x9=171.

The SEC, or the B1G, run into what i will coin the ‘ACC Dilemma,’ if they stop at 17 like the ACC or at 19 which is the artificial cap to avoid super-leagues. If either conference were to go to 19, then they’d need to play 10 game conference schedules to create universal even conditions. The ACC has to have one program playing only 8 conference games every year in 2027 and beyond.

The B1G and SEC do not want to deal with the lessening of rotational opponents as permanent rivalries become harder to manage as the teams increase. Each conference deals with it differently, however, it becomes extremely more complicated with new additions. FSU could go to the Big XII however I’m not sure that’d be advantageous for their university in any meaningful way.

The waiting period provision is inapplicable and irrelevant to non-p4 schools like USF.

Moreover, I do believe USF has their eyes on joining the Big XII or the ACC if FSU leaves. The 19-team conference cap would be irrelevant to USF since they’d be replacing FSU, and the big XII has three spots open w/ no obvious options outside of USF. The Big XII already whiffed on Gonzaga and UConn; i could see UConn being revisited.

The big XII already publicly rejected Memphis’ attempt to join; as did the ACC. Memphis and Tulane are further than appear from UConn and USF when it comes to attractive G6 programs. USF just needs to do well athletically more than anything else. This bill doesn’t limit them in any meaningful manner.
 
DTP said:
Salary caps for players.

No salary caps for coaches.

No spending caps for “facilities”

No revenue caps from TV deals.

This is supposed to “save” college athletics how?
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By making a safe space for Quit Saban to have every single conceivable built in advantage like the good ole days with Mork *****, in order for him to come out of retirement taking his ball and going home. So we can pretend he’s the greatest coach ever again!
 
HighPerformance said:
First- race didn't need to be introduced into it- yet the race baiters brought that card. I am actually surprised they didn't mention slavery too.

And- as a guy who spent over 28 years in the G- the only way to get collegiate sports under control is via the fed govt. I am not saying that is a good thing- however, they possess the power to have oversight due to the hundreds of jurisdictions that collegiate athletics touch. I am all for whatever benefits Miami- and you are correct- Dems love to have the federal govt dictate how you should live your life, (just revisit Covid) however, the options are very limited if you want to at least put some lanes into all of this.

I am confident that the Miami leadership- a 180 from Donna S- will get Miami where they need to be in order to find continued success.
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See I don’t get this take. What’s so broken about college sports right now that needs to be fixed?

Seems to me the sport is way better than it was 10 years ago when you really look at it.
 
cookies said:
Kinda seems like FSU fans are wish-casting quite frankly. The B1G did not want Clemson and FSU, and Disney/SEC didn’t want them last go around either. Since then, their leadership has looked incompetent as their debt grows because of renovations and other projects, and they’re the only football team to beat Alabama and still be considered sorry.

Why would they be a more attractive offer now than then? Back then, even if the SEC were willing to admit them, their admittance wouldn’t limit future plans to pursue other schools. Now it absolutely would; presuming the bill passes. The SEC wants some combination of #1 UNC unconditionally, no matter what, that brings them to 17, and afterwards UVA, GT, or Clemson to pair w/ UNC. 19 is particularly dangerous across all sports, but especially football.

The cap at 19 complicates things because it’s an odd number. We’ve already heard nonstop *****ing about moving from 8 to 9 conference games. 16 x 9 =144. 18x9=162. 17x9=153 & 19x9=171.

The SEC, or the B1G, run into what i will coin the ‘ACC Dilemma,’ if they stop at 17 like the ACC or at 19 which is the artificial cap to avoid super-leagues. If either conference were to go to 19, then they’d need to play 10 game conference schedules to create universal even conditions. The ACC has to have one program playing only 8 conference games every year in 2027 and beyond.

The B1G and SEC do not want to deal with the lessening of rotational opponents as permanent rivalries become harder to manage as the teams increase. Each conference deals with it differently, however, it becomes extremely more complicated with new additions. FSU could go to the Big XII however I’m not sure that’d be advantageous for their university in any meaningful way.

The waiting period provision is inapplicable and irrelevant to non-p4 schools like USF.

Moreover, I do believe USF has their eyes on joining the Big XII or the ACC if FSU leaves. The 19-team conference cap would be irrelevant to USF since they’d be replacing FSU, and the big XII has three spots open w/ no obvious options outside of USF. The Big XII already whiffed on Gonzaga and UConn; i could see UConn being revisited.

The big XII already publicly rejected Memphis’ attempt to join; as did the ACC. Memphis and Tulane are further than appear from UConn and USF when it comes to attractive G6 programs. USF just needs to do well athletically more than anything else. This bill doesn’t limit them in any meaningful manner.
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You are correct but ESPN has no incentive to move them to the SEC. They get the product/programming for a steep discount compared to what they would have to pay if they were in SEC.
 
RightSaidFred said:
See I don’t get this take. What’s so broken about college sports right now that needs to be fixed?

Seems to me the sport is way better than it was 10 years ago when you really look at it.
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100% it is and it’s not close. NIL and transfer portal have created a significantly better product on the field and even in the offseason to be real.

The sport has more juice than ever
 
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