Protect College Sports Act [formerly “SCORE Act” thread]

Is there anyway that the B1G only offers a partial share to Miami?
In that event, do you accept it? For how long? B1G has set precedent so are we sure they are going to offer full shares from jump?
yes. Big 10 contract does not have prorata language. if Miami joins before next contract, expect similar deal to oregon and UW unless they find a way to get more money. Fox and BIG10 are in negotiations on early extension so lots of moving parts. But definitely possible.
 
I look at the college pay scale like this...

NFL game value avg about $36M per game
College game value about $10M per game (and that is probably generous on average)

NFL salary cap at $300M for 32 teams

"Profitable" college programs are probably in the neighborhood of 64, or about double the number of NFL teams.

So by my math a college roster is worth about 1/6th (and probably less actually) of that of an NFL roster.

So a $45M dollar roster doesn't seem out of line, which is what is being proposed in the PCSA.

And so I don't see the colleges trying to ***** the players here.
 
Furthermore, college players can also get NIL separately, just like an NFL player.

And further, the reorganization of college football is not complete. If the conference size cap is removed from the PCSA, then the resulting reorganization will allow the sport to maximize its potential in a free market way, allowing more money for everyone.

One of the things that is killing the sport is the constant lawsuits not allowing it to place reasonable restrictions on player movement and eligibility. In the NFL for example the players are restricted from moving at all during their first contract.
 
Mario is aware of EVERYTHING



Yea, this was obvious to anyone paying attention. The people on here that thought it was good for us were absolutely delusional.

Like I said before, this entire bill was instigated by people who are not friends of Miami. Politicians don't get involved in things out of the goodness of their hearts, ESPECIALLY sports. They get involved because people with power and access demand that they do.

Saban and Meyer go golfing with Trump to discuss college football early in the year. Then all this happens. Do you trust their intentions? Because they went there representing their interests and the interests of the people in their orbit. The good 'ol boys we've complained about for decades. Those people don't give a f*** about Miami and we are currently part of their problem. Whatever solution they want will not allow Miami to exist with the competitive advantage it has today.
 
Me explaining to my wife why I can't watch the kid on weekends starting September.

 
Yea, this was obvious to anyone paying attention. The people on here that thought it was good for us were absolutely delusional.

Like I said before, this entire bill was instigated by people who are not friends of Miami. Politicians don't get involved in things out of the goodness of their hearts, ESPECIALLY sports. They get involved because people with power and access demand that they do.

Saban and Meyer go golfing with Trump to discuss college football early in the year. Then all this happens. Do you trust their intentions? Because they went there representing their interests and the interests of the people in their orbit. The good 'ol boys we've complained about for decades. Those people don't give a f*** about Miami and we are currently part of their problem. Whatever solution they want will not allow Miami to exist with the competitive advantage it has today.
It’s Miami’s job to make sure any legislation doesn’t prejudice its competitiveness or long term goals. We have plenty of lobbying resources, leverage, and direct lines to POTUS.
 
I look at the college pay scale like this...

NFL game value avg about $36M per game
College game value about $10M per game (and that is probably generous on average)

NFL salary cap at $300M for 32 teams

"Profitable" college programs are probably in the neighborhood of 64, or about double the number of NFL teams.

So by my math a college roster is worth about 1/6th (and probably less actually) of that of an NFL roster.

So a $45M dollar roster doesn't seem out of line, which is what is being proposed in the PCSA.

And so I don't see the colleges trying to ***** the players here.
A few problems with your math. Sidebar, it’s been reported that anywhere from fifteen to thirty colleges already spend more on “NIL,” across all sports than the proposed 48.8 million. Texas football for example made 190 million last year in revenue. Just the football.

1. The restriction on player movement can and would restrict compensation for a lot of guys I.e. Darian mensah, Damon Wilson, Coop, V. Jacobs, etc who are offered more at their third school than their second

2. The salary cap isn’t just based on football, it’s based on all revenue generating sports except women’s basketball & non revenue generating Olympic sports

3. The cap rises with annual inflation, but doesn’t take into consideration increased media rights deals or sponsorships or other monetizing dependent on player participation. One easy example of this is that the Big XII is planning to sell their football and basketball rights, to increase their value, separately in a few years since they are the best basketball conference in the country.

4. Cap would also disincentive and depress large NIL packages to freshmen

The bill does not cap total spending on football facilities, coaching staffs, recruiting operations, travel, administration, or other athletic expenses. It regulates specific athlete-compensation channels while leaving institutions free to spend differently in other areas.

This gives the game up lol. I’m not opposed to certain limits but student athletes have to be apart of designing those limits. Football and basketball players are still subsidizing everybody else, including the ncaa itself who makes more than a billion dollars off March madness.

Even the retention pool is written in as a temporary measure that goes away in 9 years time.
 
Last edited:
A few problems with your math. Sidebar, it’s been reported that anywhere from fifteen to thirty colleges already spend more on “NIL,” across all sports than the proposed 48.8 million. Texas football for example made 190 million last year in revenue. Just the football.

1. The restriction on player movement can and would restrict compensation for a lot of guys I.e. Darian mensah, Damon Wilson, Coop, V. Jacobs, etc who are offered more at their third school than their second

2. The salary cap isn’t just based on football, it’s based on all revenue generating sports except women’s basketball & non revenue generating Olympic sports

3. The cap rises with annual inflation, but doesn’t take into consideration increased media rights deals or sponsorships or other monetizing dependent on player participation. One easy example of this is that the Big XII is planning to sell their football and basketball rights, to increase their value, separately in a few years since they are the best basketball conference in the country.

4. Cap would also disincentive and depress large NIL packages to freshmen



This gives the game up lol. I’m not opposed to certain limits but student athletes have to be apart of designing those limits. Football and basketball players are still subsidizing everybody else, including the ncaa itself who makes more than a billion dollars off March madness.

Even the retention pool is written in as a temporary measure that goes away in 9 years time.

Yeah NIL money is separate just like for any professional athlete. I stated this in a 2nd post. The problem is not the top of the cap, it's the bottom. In the NFL teams have to effectively spend at least to 90% of the cap (over a period of years), so that a team can't just collect money without fielding a competitive team. I'm not sure if the PCSA addresses a floor for roster spend, but it should. Texas will spend to the cap, and with NIL, well beyond. But will Wake Forest or Boston College or Iowa State? I don't know.

My "math" was obviously back of the napkin math, but I'll stand by my feeling that a $45M college roster is comparable to an NFL roster at $300M given the number of teams, size of media contracts, and viewership numbers. If you have some other math, you're welcome to present it.
 
Yeah NIL money is separate just like for any professional athlete. I stated this in a 2nd post. The problem is not the top of the cap, it's the bottom. In the NFL teams have to effectively spend at least to 90% of the cap (over a period of years), so that a team can't just collect money without fielding a competitive team. I'm not sure if the PCSA addresses a floor for roster spend, but it should. Texas will spend to the cap, and with NIL, well beyond. But will Wake Forest or Boston College or Iowa State? I don't know.

My "math" was obviously back of the napkin math, but I'll stand by my feeling that a $45M college roster is comparable to an NFL roster at $300M given the number of teams, size of media contracts, and viewership numbers. If you have some other math, you're welcome to present it.
You are lost lol you must’ve not actually looked into the bill you purport was put together in good faith & isn't harming players. There’d be virtually no separation between NIL & school payments, church and state, if this passed.

I already did show u the math so last time imma reply…… once again, they’re not giving football programs 45M’s to work with. Half of that money (retention pool) expires in 9 years and even if it didn’t expire, that 45M’s is for all of a program’s student athletes except a handful of Olympic & women’s exceptions that have access to a separate 5M pot.

Future Sport-by-Sport Spending Caps (Section 116(d)(1)(C)): The Act creates a Congressional Commission to study whether individual sports programs should be subject to hard spending and cost limits going forward.
Oh geeee, I wonder what the commission is going to find out! They’re literally saying they want to curb and cut spending lmfao

“It only really limits the ability of the highest-value athletes to get paid. And I don’t think that that is going to save college sports.” — Senator Chris Murphy
 
Texas roster is $47M WITH NIL.

You are lost lol you must’ve not actually looked into the bill you purport was put together in good faith & isn't harming players. There’d be virtually no separation between NIL & school payments, church and state, if this passed.

I already did show u the math so last time imma reply…… once again, they’re not giving football programs 45M’s to work with. Half of that money (retention pool) expires in 9 years and even if it didn’t expire, that 45M’s is for all of a program’s student athletes except a handful of Olympic & women’s exceptions that have access to a separate 5M pot.


Oh geeee, I wonder what the commission is going to find out! They’re literally saying they want to curb and cut spending lmfao

Texas roster estimated to $47 to $48 Mil WITH NIL.

So far I'm the only one that tried to use actual real life numbers to state my position. You come at this from the knee-jerk position that the players are getting screwed. So no you don't have any math yet. Even your Texas roster number was wrong.

Cookie, politicians love to tell you have much they love you and are fighting for you. They love it even more when you believe it. Don't be such a rube.
 
So you mean to tell me that something our beloved & totally not racist president and Republican party came up with only benefits the good ole boy schools and tries to undercut Miami's momentum and future prospects because to **** with Miami and all those minorities?
giphy (9).gif
 
The supposed reason Trump is pressuring for the bill is because of Cody Campbell at Texas Tech who is a campaign supporter. The bill is sponsored by Cruz and Cantwell, so officially bi partisan. Notre Dame was rumored to have a docent in DC that had input. It would seem the P2 did not have input, because both Sankey and Petitti said they needed to see the text before they could support it right up to the last minute. Politicians will make it political of course, but it's hard to tell where the support really lies. There are many in both parties against the bill, but there is also definitely a sense there are powerful people behind it.
 
Although a small group of moderate/centrist Senate Democrats signed on to help get the bill through the Commerce Committee, it's a Republican bill.
- Was crafted by Ted Cruz and Eric Schmitt. Cruz pushed to make it a priority
- Trump issued directives urging the Senate to pass the bill, telling Republican lawmakers to push for passage
- The opposition is primarily from Democrats like Cory Booker (former Stanford football player) & Chris Murphy. All the dissenting votes in the commerce committee were Democrat
 
Back
Top