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BeastMode said:
You have to have LB in there as well. Wes doesn’t know playbooks, Popo isn’t fast enough. toure coming off injury and the they have Pruitt helping at safety. We will know a lot more after the ND game.
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Agreed but listing more than 5 concerns goes against the slurp fest that has taken place for the last 7 days or so. No moping allowed until after (if) we lose a game. :-)

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Calinative said:
I don't think we NEED a 1k yard guy. We've only had like 3 in last decade. Id expect this year to have a bunch more guys with like 300-400 yards than we usually have so we will have more productive guys than normal. The top guy might have around 800, but we might have like 5 or 6 guys over 400 type... I'd also expect to run the ball more. Last year I think the pass call rate was 65%. I think that drops around 5%. And that's call rate.

Like would it be surprising if like JoJo and Daniels had around 600-750, Toney had around 600, Marrion and Lofton have 400, Moore has around 300+, and then like Tony Johnson, Ray Ray, Upshaw, Chance, and Bauman are all above 200? ...

24: Restrepo 1,127. George 752. Horton 615. Arroyo 590. = 3,080 or 771 avg... With #1 Offenze in country

23: Restrepo 1,090. George 860. Young 563. Smith 263. = 2,776 or 694 avg...

16: Ahmmon 934. Coley 754. Njoku 698. Herndon 334. = 2,720 or 680 avg.

21: Rambo 1,172. Harley 543. Key Smith 405. Restrepo 345. 2,465 or 616 avg

20: Harley 799. Jordan 576. Pope 403. Wiggins 358. = 2,136 or 534 avg

17: Berrios 679. Herndon 477. Ahmmon 439. J thomas 374. = 1,969 or 492 avg

19: Osborne 547. Jordan 495. Harley 485. J Thomas 435. = 1,962 or 490 avg

22: Mallory 538. Young 367. Smith 308. Ladson 298. = 1,511 or 377.75 avg

18: J Thomas 563. Cager 374. Jordan 287. Harley 240. = 1,464 or 366 avg
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Agreed, who gives a **** about winning the conference and making the playoffs when we can just look at the statistics and revel in our success. Why stop at '16 the real wins happen on sportsreference.com.
 
cway313 said:
Agreed, who gives a **** about winning the conference and making the playoffs when we can just look at the statistics and revel in our success. Why stop at '16 the real wins happen on sportsreference.com.
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You're are legit retarded lmao.
What did any of that have to do with winning the conference/making the playoffs or not? Are you saying you can't win the conference or make the playoffs without a 1k yard WR? Straight retarded, I swear.
 
Calinative said:
You're are legit retarded lmao.
What did any of that have to do with winning the conference/making the playoffs or not? Are you saying you can't win the conference or make the playoffs without a 1k yard WR? Straight retarded, I swear.
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Listing stats from a team that hasn't won **** is ******* stupid because it doesn't prove anything you idiot. How about post stats from teams that win and compare vs using failed regime after regime. You are pathetic.
 
cway313 said:
Listing stats from a team that hasn't won **** is ******* stupid because it doesn't prove anything you idiot. How about post stats from teams that win and compare vs using failed regime after regime. You are pathetic.
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What would that prove to you? lol.

We had the #1 offense in the country last year with a 1k yard WR and didn't win the ACC or make the CFP and thats the very first one I listed. So... again whatever dumbass point you thought you were making makes no ******* sense whatsoever.
 
kyle_schick said:
I've been hearing for over a year now that Lofton projects as a "backfield" player in the NFL.

Why are we not playing him there now?

If a young college guy has NFL upside at a position, he should be playing there now.

Any reason not to is an excuse to mask the lack of recruiting at thst position across 4 years.
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Fair question. Think he provides more value primarily at TE this year than he would at RB. He'd have to be replaced at TE (by Schott most likely), and he'd take carries/snaps from Fletcher/Lyle/Brown. First two I think have potential to play RB in the NFL. So does Lofton.

If he was at RB this year I think we'd be worse off at TE, and the RB room would be pretty much the same to marginally improved. Don't think that's a great tradeoff.

I do hope he gets some snaps at RB though, as I suspect he'd provide more value to the team as our goal line RB than he would at TE on the goal line.
 
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jnf2257 said:
Hard for me to believe a true freshman WR who wasn't a 5 star recruit leading us in receiving yards is a good thing. Hope I'm wrong. Feel optimistic with every other position group.
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Or an alternative devils advocate view point. How are our corners as good as reported?

Are they struggling with a Kid who should still be in high school. My guess is Toney will struggle a little more when actual football games start. We should probably temper expectations and let him adjust.
 
Kn[]_[]ckles3o5 said:
It's been well documented he didn't struggle early in that game his wide outs struggled. He was throwing dimes from the first drive against Bama.
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He threw a pick directly into the chest of a Bama defender. Again, yes some of this is attributed to UGA’s overall ineptitude on offense. Again, I personally believe Beck didn’t have the supporting cast to play hero ball for them.

But it is not a stretch to say we are largely unproven at the WR position. If our WRs struggle, what Beck do we get? If we limit drops, run efficiently and keep Beck upright we will win the ACC imo. But how many times for the last 20 years has the situation been if we do xyz, we win xyz and then we proceed to **** all over ourselves?

Call me a mope, neg me to oblivion. Idgaf. Until I see them succeed on Saturdays I’m not buying the hype anymore.
 
DMoney said:
As we shift to game week, I wanted to share some of my big picture thoughts from camp. This is based on my personal observations and sources.

- There's real confidence in Coral Gables. Everybody was excited last year, but there were deep concerns at defensive back. This year, there’s no glaring deficiency coming out of camp. That doesn’t mean the team is perfect, and the adversity of a college season will expose holes. But most veteran observers (myself included) believe this is the most complete roster in a couple decades.

- The biggest difference between this year and last year is the talent at defensive back. I believe this will be one of the best cornerback rooms in America. OJ Frederique had a great summer after a Freshman All-American season. Xavier Lucas and Damari Brown are 6+, 200+ pounders who can run. Ethan O’Connor turned down Georgia after picking off four passes as a freshman. This is a long, athletic group with good instincts. Charles Brantley would have been a slam-dunk starter last year and he might be #5.

- We also have a true nickel in Keionte Scott. Last year, Daryl Porter (a natural outside corner) took one for the team and moved inside. Scott is someone who majors in nickel and has NFL size/speed.

- Safety isn’t as spectacular as corner, but it's significantly improved. Zechariah Poyser and Jakobe Thomas are SEC-caliber safeties who can tackle. Bryce Fitzgerald might be the best athlete on the team. If he tackles on gameday, he won't leave the field. Bobby Pruitt can help at S and LB. Dylan Day and Markeith Williams are capable depth as well. This time last year, we were hoping for a Zaquan Patterson breakthrough. The room is a much better place now.

- The other big story is Carson Beck. He looks like a first round pick. His game has a nice combination of power and finesse. He’s a former third baseman who can drive the ball, but he also has some Dorsey in him. The ball leaves his hands fast. I don’t think we’ll be more “efficient” on offense- Ward’s offense was the best in America by a mile- but we should be very good.

- I have no concerns about our offensive line and running backs. They look the part and play the part. We should run the ball as well as anybody in America.

- At receiver, the most talented players are young guys like JoJo Trader, Josh Moore and Malachi Toney. We’ve seen it on Greentree, but they'll need to prove it in games. The safest bet to me is Toney. I think he leads the team in receiving. The veteran transfers (CJ Daniels, Keelan Marion, Tony Johnson) raise our floor. I expect all three to play against Notre Dame, and they have winning attitudes. Chance Robinson is a homegrown player trending in the right direction. He’s a big body who can get open and move the chains.

- I don’t think one player will replace Elijah Arroyo. His ability to get downfield at 6'4, 250 is rare. But this is a solid group. Elija Lofton is a complete player who will have a huge impact on the offense. I still think his NFL future is in the backfield. Tulane transfer Alex Bauman has bulked up and brings experience in the red zone. Freshman Luka Gilbert is massive (6’7, 265) and coordinated. He’ll play early.

- We’re starting to look the part on the defensive line. Many around the Hecht believe Rueben Bain will have a superstar season in this defense. Akheem Mesidor is a sixth-year player with real production (36 career TFLs and 23 sacks). He’s in great shape and playing his more natural outside spot. The guy who deserves more hype is David Blay, the Louisiana Tech transfer. He’s added weight and is generating buzz with NFL scouts. Blay is not an elite athlete, but he doesn’t stay blocked and battles double teams. The former five stars have all flashed throughout camp. For me, the safest bet in that group is Armondo Blount. He’s only 18 and has the total package of size, speed, power, nastiness and IQ.

- We’ve come a long way physically at linebacker since the Manny years. Mo Toure is the prototype, and Wesley Bissainthe has bulked up from 190 to a lean 230. Both guys have tons of experience. There’s more depth in the room, too. Kamal Bonner and Jaylin Alderman were ACC starters, Popo Aguirre played a bunch last year, Chase Smith is a fifth-year guy, and the freshmen Kellen Wiley (6’4, 238) has NFL tools.

- At kicker, the battle continues. Bert Auburn has made a lot of kicks in big games. Carter Davis is less experienced with field goals but has top-of-the-scale leg strength. His upside and improvement has made this a much closer battle than reported.

Overall, I share the confidence of the staff. This is a good and balanced team. I won't try to evaluate Corey Hetherman as an amateur watching from the sideline, but everyone is raving and the defense looks more connected to my untrained eye. If that side makes a 2016-type leap, and Beck stays healthy, this team will be a contender.
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One thing I'll say about Heatherman, not knowing how he coaches, but the fact he was a QB may help with time management.
 
DMoney said:
Until they get it done in games it doesn’t mean much. But I’ll just point out that it’s consistent from coaches, players and practice goers.
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The Lofton one to me is one I’m really curious to see. On one hand I hear quite a bit of hype… but also he doesn’t fit the traditional molds. So he especially is one I feel like need to see in action.

Like was said earlier, there’s a lot of talk about his NFL position is probably in the backfield. And how’s he’s not Elijah Arroyo in terms of a pure receiver. But we’ve got a crowded back field. We need an impact receiver.
 
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