Playoff rankings Miami #7

[prinmemo]

Dumbest take on this board (by sometimes otherwise intelligent people): "Nothing matters! If we win out then we're in!"

Well thanks. Thank you for setting the bar higher for us than any other program aside from Wisconsin (with an incomparably weak schedule). Please remember your standards if we somehow lose a 1 pt game to Notre Dame and then beat Clemson. Or smash Notre Dame and lose to Clemson in OT.

I'm not in the business of EVER predicting a Canes loss but for chrissakes- some of us need to learn how to play this narrative game a little better and wayyyyy earlier. The SEC starts excusing losses in like week 1.

Nonsense. Barely beating unranked teams followed by squeaking by a horrifically bad UNC team put us in this position. Had we rolled over our schedule, then we’d get the benefit of the doubt among one-loss teams. We didn’t so going undefeated is how we get in the playoff.

You what's worse than barely winning? Barely losing. The two teams ahead of us both lost to Iowa State. Oklahoma just gave up 52 points! Oklahoma won by 5 against Texas, 8 to BAYLOR, and 7 to Kansas St. How are those teams looking this year?

You just compared Texas and Kansas State to North Carolina?

Baylor is 1-8.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Everyone keeps saying just win. Well, not ****, but that's what some people are trying to point out. Other teams apparently don't have to "just win." There are teams ahead of us with losses.

And what I am trying to find in the college football playoff selection guidelines, is where it says an undefeated team must be in front of a team with a loss. People are saying "just win" because if we do that, it naturally knocks two of the teams in front of us out of the way. As soon as people realize that regardless of what is said publicly, the guidelines pretty clearly (to me anyway): this a judgement call for the the committee to select who they think is the best, until we prove on the field otherwise, we are not among the four (or five, or six, whatever) best.


But wouldn't you know, as fortune has it, we play two of the one loss teams ahead of us, and two of the one loss teams ahead of us play each other.

Until we have played the games and either Clemson or ND are in front of us with a loss to us, this is nothing more than people arguing about why they are right in their disagreement with someone else's opinion in a beauty pageant.

 

[ajkreider]

The angst on here is just silly. If we lose to ND, we don't belong. They will have beaten us with a better schedule anyway.

If we beat them, win out, including Clemson in the ACCCG, then it's a done deal. We are in. If TCU beats OK, then we pass OK and ND this week. We are #5 . We beat Clemson, we pass them. We are at least #4 . Done deal.

 

[g8rh8rMD]

#7.

Bull****.

Should be above TCU.

But who the **** cares?

I'd like to personally thank the committee for the disrespect.

Our kids showed last week that they use the hate as motivation, so keep pouring it on.

Let's crush the Golden givin' Domers, and they can't keep us out.

All of this, but frankly we should be ahead of ND. I’d settle for #3 right now. Anything less is complete disrespect. Keep us down, we feed off your fear and hate.

 

[Canegrad89]

Just win but why we should care is let’s say we are a 1 loss team. At 7 we are done. Period.

That’s the part that ****es me off. If our loss comes to Notre Dame and then we beat Clemson we have a long way to climb from where we fall after this week.

That's why these rankings do matter. If you're say #2 currently and lose to #1 , you may only slip to #6-7 and can slip back into the top 4 quite easily over the remaining games. If you're say #7 currently and lose to #3, you probably slip to #12-14 (despite your one loss being a "quality loss.") There is not enough time left to climb back to #4 from there.

We should be ranked higher than TCU (that's ridiculous). We should also be ranked higher than OK and Clemson. We've beaten Va Tech, FSU (considered an elite team at the beginning of the season pre-injury), Georgia Tech, a decent Syracuse team that beat Clemson and a solid Toledo team. We should be at worst the second lowest ranked undefeated P5 team (with only Wisconsin behind us). If we win out, things should take care of themselves but I'd much rather be ahead of TCU and Oklahoma right now at #5 (with a chance to take out both ND and Clemson in upcoming games). If things don't change, we could end up at #5 (although that is somewhat unlikely). Things didn't change in 2000 and we got shafted out of a national title. A team we beat head-to-head (FSU) played for the MNC. We could get robbed again. Rankings matter.

 

[ChosenOne]

Don't CAREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE - Jay Cutler voice.

- Beat ND and you'll be top 4 because you would be removing a team from the top 4.
- Lose to ND and you'll be out of the top 20. Doesn't matter if we're at 6 or 7.

 

[g8rh8rMD]

When debating whether TCU should be ahead of Miami there is only one logical explanation – committee bias.

So the committee is biased against Wisconsin?

That's the question that obliterates every argument you people are trying to make.

This is a ridiculous argument. Wisconsin has played absolutely no one and their non-con schedule is an affront to basic sportsmanship, as is the unbalanced Big10 sched.

 

[Dawgcane]

All this argument about if this, or if that, the only concern we should have is beating ND this weekend. One game at a time guys.

 

[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Yes, I am the one who keeps changing the topic. Got it.

I basically just restated the same thing I've been saying from the beginning in this thread.

Nice deflection, though.

You're running from the question. Does schedule matter or not?

Yes, I'm running from the question.

But seriously, if you do ever figure out how TCU & Oklahoma, with their impressive losses to Iowa State, should be ranked ahead of Miami I would like to hear it. (And don't forget, schedule matters!)

Yes, I agree that schedule matters. Oklahoma and TCU have good wins. They both have a loss to a ranked team. We had a bad pass bounce off a facemask on 4th down and then had to hold off 1-7 UNC on a game winning drive. That stuff matters because we looked like sht. Quit acting like EVERY win is better than EVERY loss.

If that's you're take, then UCF is top 5.

Wait, what?

You just jumped the shark with that comment.

You just argued that some losses are better than some wins!

You just twisted yourself into a pretzel and came out with the conclusion that in some cases losses are better than wins.

A win is always better than a loss. Always.

Holy shīt! This is incredible.

 

[Mnhurricane]

They use any and every narrative possible to justify keeping us so low. They hate on the big 12 for being so weak year in and year out yet TCU is above us. VT, the team we were supposed to get smashed around by we dominate so now they must suck. and etc

 

[Hurracanes]

Gtfoh Georgia no 1 bama is by far the best team in the country. Ou and mayfield maybe the only team that can stand up to bama.

Please go to another board.

 

[Schuylkill County Cane]

So when we win Saturday will all the experts be claiming we faced an overhyped ND team?

 

[ddann]

So when we win Saturday will all the experts be claiming we faced an overhyped ND team?

Probably.

Beating ND still won't be as impressive as losing to Iowa State and/or Syracuse.

 

[UknowWhat]

What's foul is we beat the team that beat Clemson...but thats okay win and they can't deny us

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[iLoveTDs]

"Miami and Notre Dame control their own destiny". - ESPN round table

If we win out we are in the playoffs. I think everyone gets that.

As I've said before my issue is that in the future I know it will be incredibly difficult for a one loss Miami team to make the playoffs.

Our history with the BCS alone should tell us this.

Being behind TCU at this point is completely absurd regardless of how you want to spin it. Pointing out that we control our own destiny isn't an argument. Saying that we got ourselves in this position by playing down to our competition isn't a sound argument.

When debating whether TCU should be ahead of Miami there is only one logical explanation – committee bias.

Our history with the BCS? We were ranked #2 by people in 2000. Computers kept us at #3 because of the La Tech debacle.

Beating La Tech by 10 is a debacle?

Like I said, Miami is held to such a high standard that we aren't allowed to simply beat teams. We have to beat them down.

TCU's loss is viewed more favorably than our close wins.

 

[iLoveTDs]

We should be ahead of TCU. BUt who cares. Winning will fix it. We beat ND we will be ahead. We lose your point is moot.

They play OU this weekend. Why would we jump them if we both beat a top 5 team?

 

[Sonofmiami2005]

Just being realistic. Bama would give us a beat down. We don't have that star player yet ou does.

 

[954/512Cane]

We need Vilma to knock some common sense in some of you "Cane Fans".

Some of the dumbest arguments for 1 loss teams ahead of us are being made in this thread, my head hurts.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

They aren’t going to keep us out if we win out. I haven’t read the thread thoroughly but I see that’s a discussion. I️ see where you are coming from, but once again, they aren’t keeping us out if we run the table. As bad as they would like to, they know they can’t lol.

No ****.

The question is will we ever be afforded the luxury of losing 1 game and making it into a play off?

If this season's current rankings are any indication of how the committee views us, then the answer is no.

Miami is a victim of it's past success. We will always be held to a higher standard in the minds of college football fans, the media, selection committee members, etc.

Then throw in the fact that the SEC gets so much favoritism in polls and it's a recipe for disaster if we ever have 1 loss seasons.

LSU @ #25 is all you need to know about how the SEC is viewed. Blown out by Troy at home and 6-3 on the year and these clowns are ranked? It's simply to bolster bama's schedule (which sucks).

Get used to it.

If we schedule tougher nonconference opponents and the opponents in the ACC coastal improve ....yes

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[OriginalCanesCanesCanes]

Just being realistic. Bama would give us a beat down. We don't have that star player yet ou does.

EAD about OU. They don’t fūcking play defense.

And what kind of fan concedes a game that hasn’t been played and might not be played.

You’re a soft submissive cuck. Go away.