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Players with the most to prove in 2020

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DMoney said:
Will Mallory- After a dominant spring and fall camp, most people inside the program expected a huge season from Mallory. It didn’t happen, and he disappointed with his hands and lack of physicality. But there were signs of promise. In the four games Brevin Jordan missed to end the season, Mallory averaged 55.75 receiving yards per game. That’s 725 over the course of a season, which would have put him 4th in the country among TEs. The key will be cleaning up the drops and get getting tougher. Greg Olsen got off to a rocky start as a Cane and recovered. We will see how Mallory adapts.

Nesta Silvera- An injury put Silvera behind the curve as a sophomore and he never fully caught up. He struggled using his hands and moving laterally, which is essential at his size. It can’t be all bullrush at this level. The good news is that DTs usually develop later and Nesta was dominant in the first week of spring. Time will tell if that is real improvement or victimizing overmatched interior OL.

Kai-Leon Herbert- Injuries and illness have stunted Herbert’s development. He’s lost valuable practice time, and it showed when he hit the field against Duke. The physical tools are there- his high school testing numbers are comparable to Ezra Cleveland (one of the best OL athletes in the upcoming draft). Herbert rotated with Zion Nelson at RT in spring and the early returns are promising under his third OL coach.

Zach McCloud- My two biggest concerns on defense are replacing Shaq Quarterman and an overall lack of physicality. McCloud can address both. He is a thumper and a physically developed fifth-year player. His instincts and IQ will determine his success. Too often he was late to pull the trigger, which caused his athleticism to play down. He is relatively new to MLB and that position suits him better than striker.

Gurvan Hall- Last year was supposed to the breakout after an outstanding fall camp. While he wasn’t bad (55 tackles, 2 sacks and an INT), he didn’t take the next step. Sheldrick Redwine, Jaquan Johnson and Rayshawn Jenkins didn’t make the leap until their third years or later, which bodes well for Hall if he keeps studying the game under Coach Banda and Ed Reed.

Which players do you want to see make the next step in 2020?
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D$, great work, but about Mallory, that comment about Greg Olsen is interesting. IIRC correctly, while he didn't put up big numbers in his first season at UM in 2004, you always got the sense that this guy could really play and would be at the next level. The problem with Mallory is that I just dont think he's a true TE, he needs to be a guy that is consistently flexed out or motioned, because he gets over-powered too many times at the point of attack when lined up next to the tackle. He's really good in the pass game, but he needs to be utilized like he's basically another wide receiver in my view. Something I hope Lashlee does
 
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k9cane said:
D$, great work, but about Mallory, that comment about Greg Olsen is interesting. IIRC correctly, while he didn't put up big numbers in his first season at UM in 2004, you always got the sense that this guy could really play and would be at the next level. The problem with Mallory is that I just dont think he's a true TE, he needs to be a guy that is consistently flexed out or motioned, because he gets over-powered too many times at the point of attack when lined up next to the tackle. He's really good in the pass game, but he needs to be utilized like he's basically another wide receiver in my view. Something I hope Lashlee does
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I am going to go in a different direction here. My guy would be GR15. Here is why:
1. Despite his monstrous season, he isn’t universally recognized as a top returning defensive player. Outside of Miami, there is a higher regard for Roche.
2. There are some doubts out there that he is legit. He has to prove that the past year was no fluke. We don’t want to see a regression as we saw with Garvin.
3. He has to improve in all phases of his game because teams will key on him. He can’t rest on his laurels and be complacent.
 
troycbullock said:
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I am going to go in a different direction here. My guy would be GR15. Here is why:
1. Despite his monstrous season, he isn’t universally recognized as a top returning defensive player. Outside of Miami, there is a higher regard for Roche.
2. There are some doubts out there that he is legit. He has to prove that the past year was no fluke. We don’t want to see a regression as we saw with Garvin.
3. He has to improve in all phases of his game because teams will key on him. He can’t rest on his laurels and be complacent.
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A couple of good points, however pff doesn’t recognize greg universally, everyone else however does. The report espn put out in coordination with pff reflected that(which had Roche #1 or whatever and not listing Rousseau as a top 10 edge defender). Not reading anything to that whatsoever , have seen greg on plenty of mocks and he’s firmly within that top 5-10 range as the #1 edge defender.

greg is a different type of monster on the dline, he reminds me of a jason pierre Paul type of de who is a bit more athletic. The way he can dominate even playing as an interior lineman( he had about half of his 15.5 sacks there) is not really normally and will get scouts buzzing with how easily he can beat guards with his power and or speed in addition to how he beats tackles. I want Him to develop a few more pass rush moves(common theme with our dline I know But still) this season
 
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troycbullock said:
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I am going to go in a different direction here. My guy would be GR15. Here is why:
1. Despite his monstrous season, he isn’t universally recognized as a top returning defensive player. Outside of Miami, there is a higher regard for Roche.
2. There are some doubts out there that he is legit. He has to prove that the past year was no fluke. We don’t want to see a regression as we saw with Garvin.
3. He has to improve in all phases of his game because teams will key on him. He can’t rest on his laurels and be complacent.
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Its interesting, GRo was unreal last year, but he snuck up on a lot of people -- even our own staff that took a whole month to figure out that maybe he should be playing more. But yeah, now the element of surprise is gone, teams will absolutely game plan him.

But I look at it like this also -- what if the Lashlee offense is actually good, creates big early leads and guys like GRo can just pin their ears back for a full quarter or two with the lead?
 
k9cane said:
Its interesting, GRo was unreal last year, but he snuck up on a lot of people -- even our own staff that took a whole month to figure out that maybe he should be playing more. But yeah, now the element of surprise is gone, teams will absolutely game plan him.

But I look at it like this also -- what if the Lashlee offense is actually good, creates big early leads and guys like GRo can just pin their ears back for a full quarter or two with the lead?
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Not going to be able to really game plan greg because of what Miami has elsewhere on its dline with Roche, Phillips and the other dts. I figure next season Rousseau himself will play as an interior dlineman quite a bit on pass rushing downs(he did a lot last season and was VERY EFFECTIVE there) while having Phillips. Roche, harvey etc Line up as the bookends on passing downs. Miami dline should be very hard to play against, may be the best yet since diaz has been here
 
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Not going to be able to really game plan greg because of what Miami has elsewhere on its dline with Roche, Phillips and the other dts. I figure next season Rousseau himself will play as an interior dlineman quite a bit on pass rushing downs(he did a lot last season and was VERY EFFECTIVE there) while having Phillips. Roche, harvey etc Line up as the bookends on passing downs. Miami dline should be very hard to play against, may be the best yet since diaz has been here
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This what the truly great players do -- they create opportunities for others, while still getting theirs. To me, that's the next step for GRo
 
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Maybe not the most to prove and probably not a popular or obvious pick but I'm going with Greg Rousseau. It seems like we have had a lot of players flash and then regress lately. Rousseau needs to prove that it wasnt just a flash in the pan and he does have the consistency or even possibly the ability to improve. If he repeats last season he is going to have a lot of talk about him and he is going to make a lot of money come draft 2021 draft time.
 
i've said it since day one, nesta has not shown anything special. youth/inexperience and injury last year might have set him back.
 
rsa coral gables said:
i've said it since day one, nesta has not shown anything special. youth/inexperience and injury last year might have set him back.
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How could he show anything “special” when he played behind the best dt we had since wilfork in Gerald willis in his freshman season with limited snaps and then was hurt and missed the first part of the season with a knee/ankle injury. Judge him when he is completely healthy and in starting role getting starter minutes. Dts usually show a jump in their game as upperclassmen. You Have to watch his film more closely but he can play.

he got High praise this spring that first week though
 
Roche / Nesta / Rousseau / Phillips would be a disruptive af DL.

Manny's defense needs disruptive play from the DL to function at a high level. We saw it with McIntosh and Willis from that WDT spot. Rousseau isn't quite as big/strong as those two but he caused problems whenever he lined up as nose in our 3 DL package.
 
Pope- Highly touted coming in, underachieved in systems not suited to his talents. Has a chance to be special this year in an offense that is tailor made for his skills. Been putting in non stop work in the offseason and hope it pays off.

Entire OL- All of them looked lost and borderline not D1 caliber. New OL coach and scheme should help but we need all of them to step up in a big way.

NJS- Lot of hype with no production to match. Good news coming out of the first few practices about him so I am optimistic he can make a nice stride and play a big role on the line for us.

Mccloud- always the lesser recognized of the LB trio for the last few years. Has a chance to prove himself and improve draft stock as a leader and playmaker on a defense that is going to be VERY good this year.
 
Why am I like the only person mentioning D'Eriq King in this thread?

He's #1...#2 player with the most to prove is like five football fields away.

If he's the real deal, I'll see y'all at the ACC Championship Game. If he is not the real deal, everyone is getting fired. Is he Kyler Murray? or...is he the G5 QB that throws 54% against P5 competition and is really just a runner that quit on his team when things got a little hard? idk...but he's got a lot to prove this year for himself...and the team's success or lack thereof is on him. Weight of the world is on his shoulders and no one else has more to prove.
 
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BoxingRobes said:
Why am I like the only person mentioning D'Eriq King in this thread?

He's #1...#2 player with the most to prove is like five football fields away.

If he's the real deal, I'll see y'all at the ACC Championship Game. If he is not the real deal, everyone is getting fired. Is he Kyler Murray? or...is he the G5 QB that throws 54% against P5 competition and is really just a runner that quit on his team when things got a little hard? idk...but he's got a lot to prove this year for himself...and the team's success or lack thereof is on him. Weight of the world is on his shoulders and no one else has more to prove.
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He's more of a proven commodity than many of the people mentioned in this thread. I think that's the way it's being interpreted. But, if you're expecting Kyler Murray, well...
 
Palm beach cane said:
Didnt Sam Brooks lead the team in tackles that night? Pretty sure he stepped up as the undeniable leader while being the youngest on the field.
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He did. And he was the fastest guy on our defense in diagnosing plays. Kid hasn’t even played LB a full year yet but his instincts are there. Future stud can’t wait to see what a full season of speed at LB looks like
 
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