Players returning for week 2

[sstcane]

I think I would rather see

Sam - Chase Smith
Mike - Caleb Johnson
Will - Wesley Bissainthe

This group is so much more athletic and dynamic than Flagg, Steed and Keontra

 

[Angry Ibis]

I didn't see Ragone out there this weekend. Anyone else confirm?

Saving him for A&M. Secret weapon. Double secret

 

[Angry Ibis]

He has to play next to a freak on early downs. Unfortunate but true. Chase smith would make him look a lot better simply based off of how linebackers player TOGETHER. He’s a good run blitzer and he’s good at recognition you just can’t have him out there with another guy who won’t read keys too

Strong answer. Fair.

 

[Canes91]

Campbell has to play. Move him to RT and scaife to RG and lets ride.

 

[JustAFanHTX]

Strong answer. Fair.

In coach Steele’s defense it’s not really about the Mike anyway. The Will is going to make the majority of the plays or at least should. So Wesley, chase, those guys are gonna be stars here. A good Mike is a cherry on top

 

[Atom Atlas]

Gametape didn’t show that. Bethune targeted him specifically the first series, particularly in the pass game.

maybe second half. I haven’t gotten through the entire game yet

He had 4 tackles from the MLB spot.... 4.... I don't care what grade some service gave him.. that's no bueno anyway you slice it...

 

[JustAFanHTX]

Your front running post is equal to Flagg’s play at MLB and that same Coach can’t wait until Wes learns that play book so he can bench the fake number 11 and all he’s family members that post here

He has no family members that post here. Like none at all. He’s not even from my side of town, bozo lol

 

[Angry Ibis]

In coach Steele’s defense it’s not really about the Mike anyway. The Will is going to make the majority of the plays or at least should. So Wesley, chase, those guys are gonna be stars here. A good Mike is a cherry on top

What do you think is the missing link here in getting the right mix of Mike as the field general and the Will as the player maker…

 

[JustAFanHTX]

What’s the missing link here in getting the right mix of Mike as the field general and the Will as the player maker…

They’re both young.. but Wes and chase is the answer. At both spots. CJ is a good stop gap but he doesn’t really move a needle. He’ll get his stats but he’s a freelancer.

 

[grover]

You aren't wrong I'm just choosing to not be disappointed. If the snap counts shift this week the gloves are off.

They’ll shift. Starters will stay the same but Flagg and Ivey are going to see diminished plying time. It’s just a question of how much. I’m hoping 50%, expecting 65% during meaningful game time when the score isn’t already run up.

 

[grover]

They’re both young.. but Wes and chase is the answer. At both spots. CJ is a good stop gap but he doesn’t really move a needle. He’ll get his stats but he’s a freelancer.

Disappointed that’s Johnson’s MO. I was hoping for much more from him. But I fear you’re correct.

 

[JustAFanHTX]

Disappointed that’s Johnson’s MO. I was hoping for much more from him. But I fear you’re correct.

It doesn’t have to remain his MO. It’s who he has been though. Good coaching can help

 

[grover]

I think I would rather see

Sam - Chase Smith
Mike - Caleb Johnson
Will - Wesley Bissainthe

This group is so much more athletic and dynamic than Flagg, Steed and Keontra

I had high hopes for Keontra. But I didn’t see even the flashes we saw from him last season. Still can’t believe he was an eval miss.

… I also can’t believe Huff has never put it together to even threaten the two deep. He looks complete physically. Just doesn’t move the way we expected he would.

 

[Billy D Williams]

I think anybody is questioning Flagg's recognition and will, but we can all agree that Flagg is far too slow and can't get off blocks quick enough to get up field or wide . We just saying we need Bissainthe and Chase in there for the speed. Their lack of experience is not as detrimental as the glaring lack of LB speed.

 

[305407cane]

I had high hopes for Keontra. But I didn’t see even the flashes we saw from him last season. Still can’t believe he was an eval miss.

… I also can’t believe Huff has never put it together to even threaten the two deep. He looks complete physically. Just doesn’t move the way we expected he would.

Seems he’s a good teammate. Always see him fired up and giving teammates encouragement and flying down on specials. That’s fine. I guess a special teams guy who stays outta trouble ain’t bad

 

[Golsen82]

But wasn't that only a few days before Mario became official?

Yea didn't wes commit cause he secretly knew mario was coming?

 

[Pixelated bukake]

and i wasn't taking a shot at you either.

i was just making the point about grading tape. yes, of course, everyone can share their opinion.

but having been there, i will say: it's difficult to be sure of grading unless you absolutely understand the call and the assignment/technique associated with it. you can get a general idea of how a player is doing, but that has limitations unless you're sitting there in the film room, with the player, the coach, and the GA with his copy of the call sheet. which is why i look at sources like PFF with a rather jaded eye. they are good at what they do, but cannot possibly know as much as they pretend to know. if the coach is grading a lot higher than what your (or my) eyes are seeing, that should give a lot of pause, and tell us that what we're seeing might not be what is actually happening.

example from last year: canes were running a smash route to the closed hash. the no. 2 mistakenly chokes off his route, instead of opening to the corner, (and TVD makes the throw and completes it anyways). i thought: "great throw and adjustment on the fly by TVD, but the WR messed up." bad play on the no. 2's part. that's a "minus" on the grading sheet. what i found out a couple of weeks later is that the WR was actually coached to choke off the route when he sees a certain look in that situation. (it was not what i thought was sound, but that's not important). the point is, my knowledge of what i think should have been done, and what i was coached, was not what the play call required. so, from that sense, i was wrong, and the player and coach were right.

can i tell if something is really banged up and unsound? sure. like d'onofrio's goal line defense, or manny's inside run fits, as examples. but scouting is not the same as grading, and there's a lot you have to deduce if you're going to be relying just on tape.

the lesson i suppose, is that from the outside looking in, you can only trust what you see up to a point.

anyway, that's just my opinion but is suspect others like @Liberty City El and @Coach Macho might agree.

Solid contribution, mane. This is why I don't pay much attention to fan's complaints about execution/results of a play. Do you know what play was called? Do you know the individual assignments? Do you know what are the pre and post snap reads? Nothing like having a strong opinion based on limited information and understanding.

 

[k9cane]

I enjoy how defensive some people get. Does pff have the call sheets as well? Do you? If not why should I care about your opinion or pff’s? This is a forum to express opinions no? I’m not taking personal shots, I’m simply giving my opinion on what I saw on tape.

I go by my eyes. I see a crossing route in front of him and him not riding that crosser into the next zone and then being late to chase for an easy first down. I don’t care what the call sheet was for that. The first series they went at his zone or his side multiple times. He was late and/or didn’t have speed to limit those gains.

the eye in the sky, never lies...