Players disciplining selves; Leaders foster Unity!

[Cane2]

forget about going 6-7 and not winning a bowl game in 10 years as the turning point, but having to wake up at 5am? thats when they really put their foot down, lol

Please understand the big PICTURE.

The players' leaders are saving themselves from being represented on the field by Golden teacher's pet-favorite JAG players.

If they police themselves to doing all the small petty crap right, then the better players [as they master the fundamentals of punctuality to class & meetings] play, as Golden can't relegate them to his doghouse, and they put themselves in a better position to win with their better players staying atop the depth chart and subsequently getting the most reps on game day.

 

[WestEndZone]

forget about going 6-7 and not winning a bowl game in 10 years as the turning point, but having to wake up at 5am? thats when they really put their foot down, lol

Please understand the big PICTURE.

The players' leaders are saving themselves from being represented on the field by Golden teacher's pet-favorite JAG players.

If they police themselves to doing all the small petty crap right, then the better players [as they master the fundamentals of punctuality to class & meetings] play, as Golden can't relegate them to his doghouse, and they put themselves in a better position to win with their better players staying atop the depth chart and subsequently getting the most reps on game day.

For the sake of adding to this conversation, I've attached a couple relevant anecdotes from MJackson and myself. My biggest thing with this team chemistry, accountability stuff is that it needs to be organic. It needs to be created from the players themselves and the mechanisms of enforcing their policies need to be carried out by the players. TIFWIW.

Tracy Howard is always real in his interviews and I like that. But I've seen the team chemistry bull **** before and it's truly a last resort

My junior year of college, playing baseball our coaches tried that ****, coming off the first losing season in school history. (with arguably the most talented team we ever had).

Didn't work. Had a mediocre season at best. We all thought we were closer than ever and bought into all the coaches ****. That was just fwiw it's completely different sports but I think it will play out the same way here.

Thanks for sharing your experiences. I went through something similar during the offseason preceding my senior year in college, but the coaches didn't have much to do with it:

We knew we had a senior loaded roster that was talented. We knew the year following us was going to be a rebuilding year. We had a stud senior QB with a couple mid-major D1 offers. We knew we had experience, talent, continuity in the staff for the first time, etc. The graduating class ahead of us was very small.

On our own accord, the rising seniors set up a few mandatory team meetings. One of them lasting over 3 hours. Almost everyone said something. Some people got some stuff off their chest. We almost had a couple altercations break out, which were resolved in the meeting. We made commitments, promises. We actually followed through on many of those promises. Offseason training programs were more successful. People came into summer camp with a lot more confidence in their abilities.

We ended up having our best season in over 50 years, which was capped off with a bowl victory over a favored opponent. Since that season, our program hasn't sniffed that kind of success. It was on the players. Our coaches did a good job of organizing us, getting us into shape, running an efficient practice, etc. It was on us to make commitments to ourselves. It can't be manufactured chemistry. It needs to be organic.

Same thing with us, only lost 4 seniors had 21 rising seniors, multiple stud transfers, coming off a 35-16 record and were supposed to be even better than that. Ended up 24-29 even though we made it to the conference championship game.

Had a completely new team the next year and we tried the chemistry stuff and it just didn't work. We still had talent to win 30+ games but not near as much as the previous years. I think we went 25-26 or something mediocre.

 

[UknowWhat]

Kinda off subject here but probably a good thing...anyways...I'm at lunch a lady walks up to my table.. And said she liked the Hurricane Polo i was wearing...Said she too was a Canes fan and looking forward to a better season...she went on to say that her grandson played for UM..and i asked what his name and she says Tracy Howard... there is really no point to my story...just noticing a small world.. And again to cast a ray on the darkness that started off as a post... I can't wait to see the convo on here when UM is like 9 - 0.

 

[Cane2]

to cast a ray on.... Well, I think that fans have been disappointed so much year after year hearing the same great stories BEFORE the season, with the result being the same quitting disappointing Football year after year that a good development gets overlooked with incredulous ears and sarcasm.

How can players holding each other accountable be so badly received?

The fact is Golden is so anal on his pillars & core virtues that he has held out the better players out for being late to class or meetings. Players taking over that small punctual stuff is about doing a lot of the little things well, and that open the big stuff, i,e., suiting up your better players on game days, to yield fruits and ultimately winning, even if it's only winning 1 more game, or two.

When you're the more talented and you are not winning, it's usually the small stuff from both coaches and players that are not getting done that lead the better talented team to drop games... and shoring the small stuff ain't really a small feat.

 

[westcoastcanes]

Kinda off subject here but probably a good thing...anyways...I'm at lunch a lady walks up to my table.. And said she liked the Hurricane Polo i was wearing...Said she too was a Canes fan and looking forward to a better season...she went on to say that her grandson played for UM..and i asked what his name and she says Tracy Howard... there is really no point to my story...just noticing a small world.. And again to cast a ray on the darkness that started off as a post... I can't wait to see the convo on here when UM is like 9 - 0.

I would be thrilled to point out what a **** eating ******* I have been for years now in my outlook on this program and how I was wrong about our prospects of turning the corner. But if I were to put a percentage chance on the likelihood of me having to do that this year, it is in the low single digits.

 

[caneaddict]

Kinda off subject here but probably a good thing...anyways...I'm at lunch a lady walks up to my table.. And said she liked the Hurricane Polo i was wearing...Said she too was a Canes fan and looking forward to a better season...she went on to say that her grandson played for UM..and i asked what his name and she says Tracy Howard... there is really no point to my story...just noticing a small world.. And again to cast a ray on the darkness that started off as a post... I can't wait to see the convo on here when UM is like 9 - 0.

love the faith, and god I jhope youre right, and want you guys in Coral gables, I just hope ur not counting on that to stay here

 

[Cane Dynasty]

I'm amazed there are still suckers that slurp.

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