"Playcalling" is not what you're complaining about

[Jaromir Jagr]

"Offensive identity" is what you're complaining about.

You can't just call a ****ing pistol formation play out of nowhere. You have to 1) have entire packages developed for the formation so the defense doesn't know immediately what you're going to do the second time you run it, 2) have spent enough time practicing this package so your players know what the **** they're doing (our only fumble was from the only I formation play we ran yesterday, because the handoff was ropey, because they probably never practice I formation) 3) have set up constraint plays for when the defense responds to it.

No playcaller is going to come in and magically change all our plays. Richt can't do it. He's committed to this offensive identity. The entire offense is built around the RPO and its constraint plays, like the bubble screen RPOs against GT. The whole playbook is supposed to function as one identity - if the defense does A in response to our base plays, then we can respond with X; if they do B, we do Y, and so on and so forth. There are no plays out of the ****ing pistol formation in the playbook. There may not be any jet sweeps. I haven't seen a single toss sweep this season so that's probably not in there - we probably don't practice it, so we can't run it.

Now, whether this offensive identity is any good is a valid discussion - but there's zero chance we can change that in the next two weeks. That's for the offseason.

No, Play Calling was exactly what I've been complaining about.

Which is why he was trying to call you an idiot without embarrassing you.

 

[Hardcore Cane]

I don’t think anyone is an idiot for complaining about the performance on offense. Everybody knows we have a ton of talent and they just want to see it succeed on the field.

The UNC game will hopefully be the worst game we will play on offense all year. Maybe , let’s hope

 

[k9cane]

Just wonder what this offense would look like with a better run blocking Oline that could consistently put us in favorable down and distance and then be able to run some sorta play-action off that. But this whole season has been shot-gun spread basically( which I honestly don't mind given the lack of fullback, TE depth and the guys Miami has on the perimiter)

Yesterday that Oline hand-cuffed anything Richt really wanted to do, IMO.

 

[JimmyJohnsonsHair]

I’m sticking with playcalling. Need to get the ball into our play makers in space and just let them run wild. Enough with the half back dives up the middle on first and 2nd down and deep routes on 3rd down. More quick slants, bubble screens, etc. And God forbid we actually incorporate some pre snap motion and misdirection into our offense.

Do you even watch the **** games? Youre delusional af.

What did I say that is not true? We consistently got stuffed in the run game on 1st and/or 2nd down yesterday yesterday which lead to a ton of incompletions on deep routes on 3rd and long. How many bubble screens did we run? How many quick slants did we run aside from the pass to Herndon that went for a TD? How much pre snap motion or misdirection did we run?

We ran plenty of plays attacking the flats and passed plenty on 1st down. Unc was all over those quick throws. They gave up big passing plays daring us to beat them deep. We did.

There were plenty of route concepts going across the middle. Rosier throws the ball behind a guy or too far in front.. oline is just barely average.

You think we are a better team than we actually are. You have are not looking at this objectively

I actually agree with a lot of your points. The OL is still a work in progress and Rosier is maddening with his inconsistency. With that said, I still think Richt’s predictable play calling is contributing to the struggles. We scored 3 points off of 5 turnovers. The OC has to be held accountable on some level.

 

[NorthEastCane]

I don’t think anyone is an idiot for complaining about the performance on offense. Everybody knows we have a ton of talent and they just want to see it succeed on the field.

The UNC game will hopefully be the worst game we will play on offense all year. Maybe , let’s hope

The problem is talent is skewed to one position. We have only one serviceable QB. With Walton gone, we have one serviceable RB. We have 1 stud lineman whose a freshman and no experience depth. No fullback. One thigh end. And even at WR, with Richards injury, we're relying on freshmen, first Harley and more recently Thomas. Thank god Berrios and Langham have stepped up.

 

[Canemang]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Lmao @ can’t throw a bubble....lol, what an idiot.

He’s completed about 100 bubbles this season

Are you dumb or just stupid? Its about ball placement you fuqin dunce. Rosier doesnt throw a clean ball to allow for a run after the catch. The wrs shouldnt have to make spectacular catches on swing passes and bubble screens. Yet they have to every **** game

Lmao at this faqqit

Watch the games buddy, he throws plenty bubbles in stride where the WR didn’t have to make a “spectacular catch”. Are they all perfect, nope, but to say he can’t make the throws is dumb

 

[CanesAreAble]

We will be fine for the most part when we can out talent the opposing team, although yesterday wasn't good vs an inept D. Against good Ds we are going to struggle and ask our QB to fit balls into a lot of tight windows.

I don’t know. I just don’t see all these offenses punching way above their weight.

Who are the under-talented P5 teams that can just light up anybody? Even guys considered elite offensive minds have variance from year to year based on QB, OL, playmakers, etc...

Again, I’m not saying OC doesn’t matter, but the biggest differential is talent. Do you have a sound system, and can you recruit/develop for that system?

BTW our offense is being led by a QB we all thought was a fringe player.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Lmao @ can’t throw a bubble....lol, what an idiot.

He’s completed about 100 bubbles this season

Are you dumb or just stupid? Its about ball placement you fuqin dunce. Rosier doesnt throw a clean ball to allow for a run after the catch. The wrs shouldnt have to make spectacular catches on swing passes and bubble screens. Yet they have to every **** game

Lmao at this faqqit

Watch the games buddy, he throws plenty bubbles in stride where the WR didn’t have to make a “spectacular catch”. Are they all perfect, nope, but to say he can’t make the throws is dumb

He's made plenty of them but not yesterday. He was definitely off his game.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

The championship coach with a proven offensive pedigree with heisman qbs being questioned against Malik rosier and Brad kaaya?

You seriously cant make this shid up.

You are such a blind ******* homer it's disgusting.

 

[Theedy50]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Last week there were a ton of drops, this week a ton of off the mark passes but all people see is "play calling". Like if a play doesn't work it's most definitely because it was the wrong play. Nothing to do with blocking, route running, catching...no it's the lack of motion.

It's not so much that motion and sweeps wouldn't work, it's that we aren't running what we run well. Let's start executing all the time before we scrap the whole system. ****, executing 70% of the time will win us the ACC, and 90% gets us a NC.

I agree it's not just the play calling. The players have to execute but there's nothing wrong with utilizing the strength of the players you have. Some pre-snap motion , jet sweep, misdirections, toss play??? Incorporating something more than the bubble screens, runs up the middle on 1st&2nd down and the occasion shot down field could only help

 

[Calinative]

Literally all the defense has to do to stop us is defend the zone run well and pressure the **** out of Rosier. Like seriously Rosier is inaccurate when he has a perfect pocket, he's absolutely horrible under pressure.

Our answer to pressure is typically the bubble screen, so basically if you're willing to potentially give up a deep pass or two, the defense can just play press man, and heavily blitz us, and our offense will likely get completely shut out.

This offense is going to live and die on how Rosier performs. If he plays like he did vs Syracuse, we can beat anybody. If he plays like he did vs UNC, we can lose to anybody. We are very lucky our defense specializes at creating negative plays and forcing turnovers

 

[Canezum5]

The championship coach with a proven offensive pedigree with heisman qbs being questioned against Malik rosier and Brad kaaya?

You seriously cant make this shid up.

You are such a blind ****ing homer it's disgusting.

Fuq out of here. I dont home shid. I have loyalty to no cach over this U.

But the notion that you question something proven over an unknown or something yet to be validated is retarded af

 

[Canemang]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Lmao @ can’t throw a bubble....lol, what an idiot.

He’s completed about 100 bubbles this season

Are you dumb or just stupid? Its about ball placement you fuqin dunce. Rosier doesnt throw a clean ball to allow for a run after the catch. The wrs shouldnt have to make spectacular catches on swing passes and bubble screens. Yet they have to every **** game

Lmao at this faqqit

Watch the games buddy, he throws plenty bubbles in stride where the WR didn’t have to make a “spectacular catch”. Are they all perfect, nope, but to say he can’t make the throws is dumb

He's made plenty of them but not yesterday. He was definitely off his game.

Agree, but to say he can’t throw them (very accurate majority of the time) is flat out wrong

 

[CaneBrah]

What has me scratching my head is we seemingly ALWAYS run the ball inside, either up the gut or between the tackles. I can't remember us running a toss play or a run outside the tackles this season. Our RBs have the speed to be successful running outside the tackles and our WRs are above average at run blocking, so how come we don't do it?

 

[Canezum5]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Lmao @ can’t throw a bubble....lol, what an idiot.

He’s completed about 100 bubbles this season

Are you dumb or just stupid? Its about ball placement you fuqin dunce. Rosier doesnt throw a clean ball to allow for a run after the catch. The wrs shouldnt have to make spectacular catches on swing passes and bubble screens. Yet they have to every **** game

Lmao at this faqqit

Watch the games buddy, he throws plenty bubbles in stride where the WR didn’t have to make a “spectacular catch”. Are they all perfect, nope, but to say he can’t make the throws is dumb

He's made plenty of them but not yesterday. He was definitely off his game.

That should be a high percentage throw in every game for any p5 qb.

Rosier has to many drops. Wr have to focus to hard on his short throws. Thats why they end up being spectacular catches.

When a 5'8 guy has to bend down and **** near dive to catch a **** screen... its a problem.

Thats the easiest throw hes got to make and hes not good at all. Idgaf what you say. His completion percentage on those should be **** near 100%

 

[Canezum5]

Literally all the defense has to do to stop us is defend the zone run well and pressure the **** out of Rosier. Like seriously Rosier is inaccurate when he has a perfect pocket, he's absolutely horrible under pressure.

Our answer to pressure is typically the bubble screen, so basically if you're willing to potentially give up a deep pass or two, the defense can just play press man, and heavily blitz us, and our offense will likely get completely shut out.

This offense is going to live and die on how Rosier performs. If he plays like he did vs Syracuse, we can beat anybody. If he plays like he did vs UNC, we can lose to anybody. We are very lucky our defense specializes at creating negative plays and forcing turnovers

Basically.

 

[Canezum5]

We will be fine for the most part when we can out talent the opposing team, although yesterday wasn't good vs an inept D. Against good Ds we are going to struggle and ask our QB to fit balls into a lot of tight windows.

I don’t know. I just don’t see all these offenses punching way above their weight.

Who are the under-talented P5 teams that can just light up anybody? Even guys considered elite offensive minds have variance from year to year based on QB, OL, playmakers, etc...

Again, I’m not saying OC doesn’t matter, but the biggest differential is talent. Do you have a sound system, and can you recruit/develop for that system?

BTW our offense is being led by a QB we all thought was a fringe player.

Right!

These guys act like Rosier is some 5 star talent and richts scheme is squandering his abilities.

Richts scheme makes it easy as **** for him!

 

[UMFarArcher]

"Offensive identity" is what you're complaining about.

You can't just call a ****ing pistol formation play out of nowhere. You have to 1) have entire packages developed for the formation so the defense doesn't know immediately what you're going to do the second time you run it, 2) have spent enough time practicing this package so your players know what the **** they're doing (our only fumble was from the only I formation play we ran yesterday, because the handoff was ropey, because they probably never practice I formation) 3) have set up constraint plays for when the defense responds to it.

No playcaller is going to come in and magically change all our plays. Richt can't do it. He's committed to this offensive identity. The entire offense is built around the RPO and its constraint plays, like the bubble screen RPOs against GT. The whole playbook is supposed to function as one identity - if the defense does A in response to our base plays, then we can respond with X; if they do B, we do Y, and so on and so forth. There are no plays out of the ****ing pistol formation in the playbook. There may not be any jet sweeps. I haven't seen a single toss sweep this season so that's probably not in there - we probably don't practice it, so we can't run it.

Now, whether this offensive identity is any good is a valid discussion - but there's zero chance we can change that in the next two weeks. That's for the offseason.

No, Play Calling was exactly what I've been complaining about.

Which is why he was trying to call you an idiot without embarrassing you.

Hey, if a few of us can watch the game and call our next plays - and that's what happens two out of three times - I can assure you, I'm not the idiot.

Richt doesn't have the intuition to call plays that are required by the immediate situation.

He wants to, he means to - but he ain't got it.

Much lessor talents, much lessor teams, and even UNC which is gutted - called great plays and almost got us. That's play calling.

 

[kryptonite]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Last week there were a ton of drops, this week a ton of off the mark passes but all people see is "play calling". Like if a play doesn't work it's most definitely because it was the wrong play. Nothing to do with blocking, route running, catching...no it's the lack of motion.

It's not so much that motion and sweeps wouldn't work, it's that we aren't running what we run well. Let's start executing all the time before we scrap the whole system. ****, executing 70% of the time will win us the ACC, and 90% gets us a NC.

I agree it's not just the play calling. The players have to execute but there's nothing wrong with utilizing the strength of the players you have. Some pre-snap motion , jet sweep, misdirections, toss play??? Incorporating something more than the bubble screens, runs up the middle on 1st&2nd down and the occasion shot down field could only help

There's room for improvement for sure. After the first series I was thinking I hope he's not going to run on 1st and 2nd every series and was pleased to see he didn't. Then I started to wonder if we'd even bother to try to run for the rest of the game. I think there was room for balance there- try some different running plays and see if anything worked without running every single 1st down would have been a place to start. I just think that our biggest problem (by far) is a lack of execution.

 

[NorthEastCane]

Lmao @ can’t throw a bubble....lol, what an idiot.

He’s completed about 100 bubbles this season

Are you dumb or just stupid? Its about ball placement you fuqin dunce. Rosier doesnt throw a clean ball to allow for a run after the catch. The wrs shouldnt have to make spectacular catches on swing passes and bubble screens. Yet they have to every **** game

Lmao at this faqqit

Watch the games buddy, he throws plenty bubbles in stride where the WR didn’t have to make a “spectacular catch”. Are they all perfect, nope, but to say he can’t make the throws is dumb

He's made plenty of them but not yesterday. He was definitely off his game.

That should be a high percentage throw in every game for any p5 qb.

Rosier has to many drops. Wr have to focus to hard on his short throws. Thats why they end up being spectacular catches.

When a 5'8 guy has to bend down and **** near dive to catch a **** screen... its a problem.

Thats the easiest throw hes got to make and hes not good at all. Idgaf what you say. His completion percentage on those should be **** near 100%

I'm not arguing with you that bubble screens shouldn't be high percentage. They should be. But as recently as last week we've seen him hit like 10 bubble screens in a row to seal the win against Syracuse. Something was off with him yesterday, maybe that shoulder hit affected him, I don't know. Richt mentioned in his Sunday Media call he was resting his shoulder until Tuesday. It was still sore.