"Playcalling" is not what you're complaining about

[Canezum5]

I’m sticking with playcalling. Need to get the ball into our play makers in space and just let them run wild. Enough with the half back dives up the middle on first and 2nd down and deep routes on 3rd down. More quick slants, bubble screens, etc. And God forbid we actually incorporate some pre snap motion and misdirection into our offense.

Do you even watch the **** games? Youre delusional af.

What did I say that is not true? We consistently got stuffed in the run game on 1st and/or 2nd down yesterday yesterday which lead to a ton of incompletions on deep routes on 3rd and long. How many bubble screens did we run? How many quick slants did we run aside from the pass to Herndon that went for a TD? How much pre snap motion or misdirection did we run?

We ran plenty of plays attacking the flats and passed plenty on 1st down. Unc was all over those quick throws. They gave up big passing plays daring us to beat them deep. We did.

There were plenty of route concepts going across the middle. Rosier throws the ball behind a guy or too far in front.. oline is just barely average.

You think we are a better team than we actually are. You have are not looking at this objectively

 

[Canezum5]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Last week there were a ton of drops, this week a ton of off the mark passes but all people see is "play calling". Like if a play doesn't work it's most definitely because it was the wrong play. Nothing to do with blocking, route running, catching...no it's the lack of motion.

It's not so much that motion and sweeps wouldn't work, it's that we aren't running what we run well. Let's start executing all the time before we scrap the whole system. ****, executing 70% of the time will win us the ACC, and 90% gets us a NC.

Not sure I agree. If a play works, is it because the offense executed or the defense failed to execute? There are two teams on the field--we aren't just struggling offensively because we aren't executing. We're struggling because defenses know what we can and can't do and they are dictating to us.

The main problem that I've had with this offense is the lack of diversified run plays and play action. The result is that we either (A) need a dominant offensive line, or (B) put A LOT of pressure on our quarterback. It has been B last year and this year.

Our issue for the last couple of games has been that defenses recognize that Rosier can't throw into coverage. If they can just control our run and don't overcommit to blitzes, we are going to struggle to "execute" because we'll be asking our guys to do something that we're just not good at. Thus the lack of "execution" is likely to continue. In some ways VT is good for us--they traditionally like aggressive island man coverages, and that plays more to Rosier's strengths. ND will be really tough for us based on the little I've seen.

Sorry I can't remember the name, but that one dude's been doing weekly play reviews that do a great job of charting what went wrong on plays and it's looked to me like it's been more about guys not being where they're supposed to be than the D knowing what we're doing. You're right that Ds see that we're limited, but I still think if we just execute what we're trying to do (especially on the opponent's side of the field) we'll score plenty of points.

Put it this way: this team is far too sloppy for tricking the D to matter. If you can't do what you're supposed to do, all the motion/sweeps/spreading out in the world won't help you.

Exactly. Team is still too inconsistent for the cute ****.

Expecting a player to make plays out of bad concepts is bad coaching. Dropping balls and throwing a **** swing pass behind a wr is not bad coaching.

Richt designed plenty of playcalls to take advantage of UNC defense as you will see when Hurricane visions post comes out. Rosier is doing his best and im proud of him. I just dont expect greatness from him and im not going to blame richt when i can clearly see a lack of mental and physical talent on this team.

 

[DiegoCane]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Replace Rosier and the same thing was said about Kaaya last year. I'm guessing when the next QB takes over the same things will be said about him.

We have schematic issues. Richt has done a great job overall as a HC but Richt the OC is lacking, from the scheme to the playcalling to some personnel choices.

 

[Canezum5]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Replace Rosier and the same thing was said about Kaaya last year. I'm guessing when the next QB takes over the same things will be said about him.

We have schematic issues. Richt has done a great job overall as a HC but Richt the OC is lacking, from the scheme to the playcalling to some personnel choices.

Bad decision making by a qb has nothing to do with the scheme. Bad oline play has nothing to do with the scheme. PERIOD.

When did Kaaya and Rosier become these great QBs? Theyre both limited and neither are special as evident by film.
Has absolutely nothing to do with scheme.

Please start charting the games and make a full expose' on how the playing talent is great but the scheme sucks.

Then tell us the scheme youd run with our talent, your personnel grouping, and your offensive identity.

Please. Ill wait patiently. Until then. You dont have a leg to stand on.

 

[matty1]

Richt must be really concerned about Malik throwing picks in the middle of the field. There's no reason why Berrios and Herndon don't have 7-8 catches each per game with slants over the middle. Homer and Dallas can make guys miss in the open field, and Thomas and Harley can run by any of our opponents defenders. Ahmmon Richards is a good player too. This shouldn't look as hard as we're making it look.

The routes are being run in the middle. Just because the pass isn't thrown in the middle doesn't mean it isn't being called. Each play has 3-4 routes being run

you don't see those routes as Rosier is a one look and force the ball QB

 

[Canezum5]

The championship coach with a proven offensive pedigree with heisman qbs being questioned against Malik rosier and Brad kaaya?

You seriously cant make this shid up.

 

[Canezum5]

Richt must be really concerned about Malik throwing picks in the middle of the field. There's no reason why Berrios and Herndon don't have 7-8 catches each per game with slants over the middle. Homer and Dallas can make guys miss in the open field, and Thomas and Harley can run by any of our opponents defenders. Ahmmon Richards is a good player too. This shouldn't look as hard as we're making it look.

The routes are being run in the middle. Just because the pass isn't thrown in the middle doesn't mean it isn't being called. Each play has 3-4 routes being run

you don't see those routes as Rosier is a one look and force the ball QB

Exactly. Like wtf are these guys watching. Rosier is not the sharpest crayon when it comes to reading defenses.

He is actually quite terrible at it

 

[gogeta4]

Richt must be really concerned about Malik throwing picks in the middle of the field. There's no reason why Berrios and Herndon don't have 7-8 catches each per game with slants over the middle. Homer and Dallas can make guys miss in the open field, and Thomas and Harley can run by any of our opponents defenders. Ahmmon Richards is a good player too. This shouldn't look as hard as we're making it look.

The routes are being run in the middle. Just because the pass isn't thrown in the middle doesn't mean it isn't being called. Each play has 3-4 routes being run

no their not and if they are they are just run off routes

 

[Canemang]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Lmao @ can’t throw a bubble....lol, what an idiot.

He’s completed about 100 bubbles this season

 

[gogeta4]

The championship coach with a proven offensive pedigree with heisman qbs being questioned against Malik rosier and Brad kaaya?

You seriously cant make this shid up.

they took his mic at uga...and wanted the champion coach to NOT COACH offense...DROPS MIC

 

[CanesAreAble]

Richt must be really concerned about Malik throwing picks in the middle of the field. There's no reason why Berrios and Herndon don't have 7-8 catches each per game with slants over the middle. Homer and Dallas can make guys miss in the open field, and Thomas and Harley can run by any of our opponents defenders. Ahmmon Richards is a good player too. This shouldn't look as hard as we're making it look.

The routes are being run in the middle. Just because the pass isn't thrown in the middle doesn't mean it isn't being called. Each play has 3-4 routes being run

no their not and if they are they are just run off routes

So the drags/slants/curls over the middle aren’t live routes?

Why not?

 

[Waffle Honcho]

Richt must be really concerned about Malik throwing picks in the middle of the field. There's no reason why Berrios and Herndon don't have 7-8 catches each per game with slants over the middle. Homer and Dallas can make guys miss in the open field, and Thomas and Harley can run by any of our opponents defenders. Ahmmon Richards is a good player too. This shouldn't look as hard as we're making it look.

The routes are being run in the middle. Just because the pass isn't thrown in the middle doesn't mean it isn't being called. Each play has 3-4 routes being run

you don't see those routes as Rosier is a one look and force the ball QB

That's why you make those his first look. Most people think having a quick release is a good thing, but I guess everyone can find something to criticize.

 

[DiegoCane]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Replace Rosier and the same thing was said about Kaaya last year. I'm guessing when the next QB takes over the same things will be said about him.

We have schematic issues. Richt has done a great job overall as a HC but Richt the OC is lacking, from the scheme to the playcalling to some personnel choices.

Bad decision making by a qb has nothing to do with the scheme. Bad oline play has nothing to do with the scheme. PERIOD.

When did Kaaya and Rosier become these great QBs? Theyre both limited and neither are special as evident by film.
Has absolutely nothing to do with scheme.

Please start charting the games and make a full expose' on how the playing talent is great but the scheme sucks.

Then tell us the scheme youd run with our talent, your personnel grouping, and your offensive identity.

Please. Ill wait patiently. Until then. You dont have a leg to stand on.

Actually part of an OCs job is to cover up weaknesses. A good offensive scheme can help a QB or OL a lot. It can create mismatches and give QBs easy throws. It can move the pocket so a short QB can get a clear line of site. It can move defenders eyes so it isn't as simple as see ball, tackle ball.

UNC gave up 300+ rushing to GTech, ND, UL. 150+ to VTech, Duke, UVA. 100+ to Old Dominion, Cal. We got 59 yesterday. Probably don't have the talent of those teams so what can you do, right?

I don't understand why people get so upset when you criticize Richt's offense. It's clearly not preforming up to its talent level.

 

[elmalocane]

The offensive identity sucks.

 

[Canezum5]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Lmao @ can’t throw a bubble....lol, what an idiot.

He’s completed about 100 bubbles this season

Are you dumb or just stupid? Its about ball placement you fuqin dunce. Rosier doesnt throw a clean ball to allow for a run after the catch. The wrs shouldnt have to make spectacular catches on swing passes and bubble screens. Yet they have to every **** game

 

[Canezum5]

The championship coach with a proven offensive pedigree with heisman qbs being questioned against Malik rosier and Brad kaaya?

You seriously cant make this shid up.

they took his mic at uga...and wanted the champion coach to NOT COACH offense...DROPS MIC

Or he resigned from playcalling and gave it to his longtime friend mkke bobo. Uga didn't take anything from richt. He gave it away.

Pick your mic back up....

 

[CanesAreAble]

Actually part of an OCs job is to cover up weaknesses. A good offensive scheme can help a QB or OL a lot. It can create mismatches and give QBs easy throws. It can move the pocket so a short QB can get a clear line of site. It can move defenders eyes so it isn't as simple as see ball, tackle ball.

UNC gave up 300+ rushing to GTech, ND, UL. 150+ to VTech, Duke, UVA. 100+ to Old Dominion, Cal. We got 59 yesterday. Probably don't have the talent of those teams so what can you do, right?

I don't understand why people get so upset when you criticize Richt's offense. It's clearly not preforming up to its talent level.

Why is LSU’s offense still garbage under Matt Canada?

As for UNC, you know the transitive property doesn’t work like that. Our offense moved the ball better against Syracuse and Georgia Tech than Clemson did. Our offense was better against Duke than Virginia Tech.

Every game is different.


And BTW, I’m not arguing coaching is irrelevant. I just think the OC complaints are overblown.

 

[Memnon]

GTech, Notre Dame, Bama, USF & UGA are all top 10 teams in Rushing.

USF is 1st in 3rd down conversion rate, Virginia is 8th, LVille is 14th, UGA & Clemson are 22nd.

UGA is the #1 ranked team in Red Zone scoring, we've only had 5 rushing TD's to 11 FG's scored from the Red Zone.

Oh St, Ok St, Bama, Okla, Notre Dame & Penn St are all top 15 in scoring Offense.

We have 11INT's as a Defense and are 91st in points off Turnovers.

The point being, maybe play calling isn't the issue, fine I won't argue that, but someone tell me why we're leaving so many points on the field?

I won't even mention ND's numbers, but Duke rushed for 186yds vs UNC, LVille rushed for 312yds vs UNC, Va Tech rushed for 181yds vs UNC, **** even Cal rushed for 106yds s UNC.

Why are we still struggling to run the ball? Didn't yall say we would be better without Walton?

Look, I'm NOT saying Richt is a terrible play caller or anything like that & the fact we're still undefeated I'm absolutely happy about it.

I'm just asking if its not play calling & it's identity, then what is the solution? Is it possible to score over 30 every once in a while? Is it too much to ask to not have a close game with 1-7 UNC?

Again, not bashing Richt at all, I just don't get why our Offense seems to struggle and have so many stalled drives?

I'm not being an ******* either, if I'm just wrong in my assessment I have no problem with saying so & willing to listen to anybody that has a legit answer to my questions.

 

[Canezum5]

Ive said it multiple times. Rosier is limited. He is too pre meditated and wildly inaccurate. He can't even throw a **** swing pass or bubble. Couple that with an inconsistent offensive line and you have a stagnant offense.

Richt is masking rosiers inconsistencies the best he can.

You guys have no idea how to deduce the difference in bad play and bad coaching.

Richt aint perfect by any means. No coach is. But no way you can watch the **** we put on film and think this is just bad offensive coaching

Replace Rosier and the same thing was said about Kaaya last year. I'm guessing when the next QB takes over the same things will be said about him.

We have schematic issues. Richt has done a great job overall as a HC but Richt the OC is lacking, from the scheme to the playcalling to some personnel choices.

Bad decision making by a qb has nothing to do with the scheme. Bad oline play has nothing to do with the scheme. PERIOD.

When did Kaaya and Rosier become these great QBs? Theyre both limited and neither are special as evident by film.
Has absolutely nothing to do with scheme.

Please start charting the games and make a full expose' on how the playing talent is great but the scheme sucks.

Then tell us the scheme youd run with our talent, your personnel grouping, and your offensive identity.

Please. Ill wait patiently. Until then. You dont have a leg to stand on.

Actually part of an OCs job is to cover up weaknesses. A good offensive scheme can help a QB or OL a lot. It can create mismatches and give QBs easy throws. It can move the pocket so a short QB can get a clear line of site. It can move defenders eyes so it isn't as simple as see ball, tackle ball.

UNC gave up 300+ rushing to GTech, ND, UL. 150+ to VTech, Duke, UVA. 100+ to Old Dominion, Cal. We got 59 yesterday. Probably don't have the talent of those teams so what can you do, right?

I don't understand why people get so upset when you criticize Richt's offense. It's clearly not preforming up to its talent level.

Because the talent level is not where you think it is.

We arent good enough in certain positions. Just that simple.

12 game win streak and Richt isnt masking deficiencies.... alright buddy.

 

[Canezum5]

Lib, its because Rosier is a mentally limited qb. Mentally, understanding defenses, coverages, and alignments all of those teams qbs are flat out better.

Rosier consistently misses the right read on the Rpo and is inconsistent in the zone read.

There were so many plays where rosier could have kept the ball on a zone read or threw the bubble on the Rpo and just flat out didnt.

Add in the fact the he has no game under center, whatsoever and you have a stagnant run game.

Rosier is doing his best but he just isnt that smart and its obvious as fuq when you really focus on it.