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TheCigar said:
Don't pay attention to the extension. It's all about the "buyout" money that's in the contract. He could have signed any length of extension, but each coaching contract has a buyout clause built in that isn't the total figure of the contract, but a much lower amount.
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Tell that to FSU
 
TheCigar said:
Depends. There is an inherent ceiling on what Minnesota can achieve no matter how long he's there. But he might just enjoy the lifestyle and want to say even if there is a ceiling on what he can achieve.
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I don’t know about that. If Fleck can get things rolling, maybe he can have Minnesota a consistent Top 10-15 team.
 
TemplarCane said:
I don’t know about that. If Fleck can get things rolling, maybe he can have Minnesota a consistent Top 10-15 team.
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Nah. Don't have that natural recruiting base and won't ever be a national recruiter. Ohio State & Michigan control the region. National schools come in and poach as well. Michigan State & Wisconsin get the leftovers. Think Northwestern as the most comparable school. Up & down over a long period of time, never challenge for a championship.
 
TemplarCane said:
I don’t know about that. If Fleck can get things rolling, maybe he can have Minnesota a consistent Top 10-15 team.
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Consistent top 10-15 in that region, no. But he can definitely run a program based on development like you see at TCU, northwestern, Washington state etc. the type that u see crack the top 15-20 every 3 or four years. But every year I don’t think so
 
TheCigar said:
Nah. Don't have that natural recruiting base and won't ever be a national recruiter. Ohio State & Michigan control the region. National schools come in and poach as well. Michigan State & Wisconsin get the leftovers. Think Northwestern as the most comparable school. Up & down over a long period of time, never challenge for a championship.
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You’re making an assumption. No one can consistently win 9-11 games at Minnesota?
 
TemplarCane said:
You’re making an assumption. No one can consistently win 9-11 games at Minnesota?
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No, I'm not making an assumption. I'm utilizing critical thinking. Based on geography as it relates to recruiting, school, conference, competition, alumni base, etc. But agree to disagree at this point.
 
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TheCigar said:
No, I'm not making an assumption. I'm utilizing critical thinking. Based on geography as it relates to recruiting, school, conference, competition, alumni base, etc. But agree to disagree at this point.
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Fair enough. I’m not predicting anything, and agree Minnesota will always have an uphill battle for recruits. I do think the right coach can win there on a consistent basis, meaning 9 games or more. Fleck may be that type of recruiter.

NC? Would need a remarkable season with a generational QB.

Michigan State has been down for a few seasons but had great run for a number of years. Won the Big 10 several times.

Time will tell.
 
You do know Fleck was 7-5 last year right? People would have been losing their **** had we hired him but I guess it’s easy to complain in hindsight lol
 
Be happy they ponied up some more money when FSU had them in their sights as their top candidate.

Very good coach who will have limited results there. They can become like Wisconsin, no shame in that, but I don't see any way they'll ever make the playoffs. His buyout drops significantly each year, so if he maintains what he's doing, he'll end up at a premiere school (or in the NFL) eventually.
 
His offense is basic af.....I have to see this in year two to believe. This one year hot coach thing is super risky it's why guys like Taggert get jobs
 
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TheChosenOne said:
I'm not hyping anyone after what Dino Babers is doing this year.

I want to see how a coach coaches with a target on their back. Babers got exposed a bit.
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Babers is garbage people keep getting hyped for head coaches that have one good year. Penn States QB makes Malik Rosier seem like Aaron Rodgers. He is so inaccurate I'm sure someone on the bench is better but typical bad decision by a head coach
 
Dwinstitles said:
His offense is basic af.....I have to see this in year two to believe. This one year hot coach thing is super risky it's why guys like Taggert get jobs
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You realize he also won the MAC and had an undefeated regular season already?

This is nothing new.
 
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