Per Mr.Ivins

Idk how you came to this conclusion. Chase Bryce is better than anyone we have and jury is still out on 5 Star Hunter Johnson. He got stuck behind Watson. He could very well turn out to be the stud everyone thought he was coming out of high school
Get out of here, Chace Bryce is assuredly not better than Perry and definitely not better than Jarren Williams. Hunter Johnson you may have a valid argument but hes gone and he was not stuck behind Watson. He signed in the 2017 class and was there after Watson had left so he was battling with kelly Bryant
 
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I really don't understand what MR is doing with the QB situation. He must be really confident in what NP can do next season and is assuming that Weldon and Jarren stick around. How do you potentially go into a season with only 3 scholarship QBs? If I'm Kelly Bryant, there's no effing way I come here for 1 year.
Well. He's not. Cancelled his OV and is going to Auburn for an OV this weekend.
 
Get out of here, Chace Bryce is assuredly not better than Perry and definitely not better than Jarren Williams. Hunter Johnson you may have a valid argument but hes gone and he was not stuck behind Watson. He signed in the 2017 class and was there after Watson had left so he was battling with kelly Bryant

Kinda like Kosi right? Wasn’t he battling Malik and lost? Same situation except Johnson had to sit this year. As for Bryce, if he had actual time under center you would see what I’m talking about. He’s looked better in his time than our QBs have. Also for you and everyone else here who’s crowning Jarren already, remember what happened when people did it with Kosi. He hasn’t played so stop acting like he’s the savior bc you don’t know
 
Kinda like Kosi right? Wasn’t he battling Malik and lost? Same situation except Johnson had to sit this year. As for Bryce, if he had actual time under center you would see what I’m talking about. He’s looked better in his time than our QBs have. Also for you and everyone else here who’s crowning Jarren already, remember what happened when people did it with Kosi. He hasn’t played so stop acting like he’s the savior bc you don’t know
Are you even sure it was a battle to begin with? Everyone should clearly know by now it never was

What has Brice done to say he’s better than anything we got? Quit with the bullsh*t making meaningless statements. Was rated far lower than both Perry and Williams and he’s barley played this year.
 
I’m not making meaningless statements. I haven’t lied yet. Just bc Perry was ranked higher doesn’t mean anything. Franks was a highly ranked kid if that tells you anything. Bryce is a far more accurate passer and makes better decisions with the football. And of course he hasn’t played much this year, he’s behind the best QB in the ACC. Which again backs up my point that Dabo has recruited and evaluated well at the QB position over the last 5-7 years.

Take off the orange and green glasses for a minute and see it how it is. I never said Kosi was terrible, I said Bryce was better.
 
How many of them have a starter who's 105lbs soaking wet & likes to run cause he thinks hes mike vick on & off the field & the second qb just cant decide how much football really matters to him to put it nicely... if you dont think this is gross miss management I'm curious what it would take to get you to realize that...
Perry is better than Kaaya Rosier Morris and Jacory! Just give him the same reps and watch the major difference in accuracy, touch, and quickness. The problem is design or schemes of receivers routes, which are too long for weak OL pass blocking. Perry would excel in Bama and Clemson offensive schemes. I played QB and he has all the throws from watching him live. Yes, he needs someone like Kelly or Kosar to help him watch films and learn how to read pre snap coverage
 
I’m not making meaningless statements. I haven’t lied yet. Just bc Perry was ranked higher doesn’t mean anything. Franks was a highly ranked kid if that tells you anything. Bryce is a far more accurate passer and makes better decisions with the football. And of course he hasn’t played much this year, he’s behind the best QB in the ACC. Which again backs up my point that Dabo has recruited and evaluated well at the QB position over the last 5-7 years.

Take off the orange and green glasses for a minute and see it how it is. I never said Kosi was terrible, I said Bryce was better.
In what way has Bryce showed he’s better than Perry
 
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In what way has Bryce showed he’s better than Perry

He’s a far more accurate passer and makes better decisions.

In s year or two after Kosi gets tons of more reps he could surpass Bryce, bc Bryce isn’t getting game reps over Lawrence. But right now he’s isnt better
 
I’m not making meaningless statements. I haven’t lied yet. Just bc Perry was ranked higher doesn’t mean anything. Franks was a highly ranked kid if that tells you anything. Bryce is a far more accurate passer and makes better decisions with the football. And of course he hasn’t played much this year, he’s behind the best QB in the ACC. Which again backs up my point that Dabo has recruited and evaluated well at the QB position over the last 5-7 years.

Take off the orange and green glasses for a minute and see it how it is. I never said Kosi was terrible, I said Bryce was better.
If that's the arguement being dano has evaluated FAR better than us 150% I agree. Comparing malik & nkosi/karren situations 150% I disagree. There was NEVER an actual open competition here. Its debatable if we even had one last year. Only thing threw a cog in that was transfer. But dano has shown the best skill play. If yall think hunter johnson is a bum I dont know what to say on that... hunter is in play here & other than jarren I'd take him over anyone we got. Nothing is set in stone far as transfers go until they enroll elsewhere. I'd just love to see us go back to the best players play... it's that simple. Fvck all this extra ****. It's got zero to do with WINNING football.if all things were even right now jarren would be starting & it's not even close. I've never picked a side on here but I'm tired of this. YES nkosi is getting better. Noticeably better. But from what. Hes getting better cause he flat out sucked on a slightly better than malik level. Now hes getting to where hes clearly better than malik but should that really mean much. Hes still limited unless u completely reprogram the way he processes a game. U trust jon the qb guru to reprogram how a kid sees the game? LMFAO. I'm sorry I got away from the point. We cant even discuss honestly qb recruiting with clemson right now. In the last 7 years theyve been elite while weve been intramural squad
 
If that's the arguement being dano has evaluated FAR better than us 150% I agree. Comparing malik & nkosi/karren situations 150% I disagree. There was NEVER an actual open competition here. Its debatable if we even had one last year. Only thing threw a cog in that was transfer. But dano has shown the best skill play. If yall think hunter johnson is a bum I dont know what to say on that... hunter is in play here & other than jarren I'd take him over anyone we got. Nothing is set in stone far as transfers go until they enroll elsewhere. I'd just love to see us go back to the best players play... it's that simple. Fvck all this extra ****. It's got zero to do with WINNING football.if all things were even right now jarren would be starting & it's not even close. I've never picked a side on here but I'm tired of this. YES nkosi is getting better. Noticeably better. But from what. Hes getting better cause he flat out sucked on a slightly better than malik level. Now hes getting to where hes clearly better than malik but should that really mean much. Hes still limited unless u completely reprogram the way he processes a game. U trust jon the qb guru to reprogram how a kid sees the game? LMFAO. I'm sorry I got away from the point. We cant even discuss honestly qb recruiting with clemson right now. In the last 7 years theyve been elite while weve been intramural squad
Dee just so we are clear on the point I was making is that out of all the qbs they have recruited only a handful panned out for Clemson and happen to be really good(boyd, Watson, Lawrence). Of the transfers Chad kelly was solid for ole miss and hunter Johnson might be good but that is still a pretty low hit rate when you consider all of the blue chip qbs they have gotten since 2010 or so. With that being said every 3-4 years they do seem to hit on a guy who is really good. That’s what we have got to do, not everyone is going to Pan out but we got to find that one transcendent talent at the position
 
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QB has by far the lowest success rate on evaluations. You take a QB in every cycle. Even if it's someone that doesn't start until year 3. I find it hard to believe that all 3 of Perry/Weldon/Williams are going to be on campus. So if you're left with 2 QBs on scholly and one gets injured, you're in a pretty bad way. And the chances are higher given the OL we have.
IMO, the plan should be a QB every year, with the expectation that if you're not the starter or backup after your RS SO year (going into RS JR year) my staff and I will help you transfer to anywhere that will take you as the starter. We will make sure you are a grad transfer do you dont have to sit out a year also. That gives the player 2 years to put something on tape for the NFL. No harm, no foul, thank you for your service. This is what I'd be selling Weldon, stay with us 1 more year, graduate and transfer, we still need you for depth and challenging for the backup spot.
 
IMO, the plan should be a QB every year, with the expectation that if you're not the starter or backup after your RS SO year (going into RS JR year) my staff and I will help you transfer to anywhere that will take you as the starter. We will make sure you are a grad transfer do you dont have to sit out a year also. That gives the player 2 years to put something on tape for the NFL. No harm, no foul, thank you for your service. This is what I'd be selling Weldon, stay with us 1 more year, graduate and transfer, we still need you for depth and challenging for the backup spot.

If a kid's serious about academics and loads up, he could also leave Miami with a degree as well.
 
Perry is better than Kaaya Rosier Morris and Jacory! Just give him the same reps and watch the major difference in accuracy, touch, and quickness. The problem is design or schemes of receivers routes, which are too long for weak OL pass blocking. Perry would excel in Bama and Clemson offensive schemes. I played QB and he has all the throws from watching him live. Yes, he needs someone like Kelly or Kosar to help him watch films and learn how to read pre snap coverage
Kelly and Kosar??....Did you just mention N'kosi in the same breath as them??....
 
Dee just so we are clear on the point I was making is that out of all the qbs they have recruited only a handful panned out for Clemson and happen to be really good(boyd, Watson, Lawrence). Of the transfers Chad kelly was solid for ole miss and hunter Johnson might be good but that is still a pretty low hit rate when you consider all of the blue chip qbs they have gotten since 2010 or so. With that being said every 3-4 years they do seem to hit on a guy who is really good. That’s what we have got to do, not everyone is going to Pan out but we got to find that one transcendent talent at the position
But its physically impossible to play them all brother. Chad kelly was a **** good qb BUT who are u gonna sit so he can play,boyd,watson? Same with hunter johnson & now kelly Bryant. It's important to realize kelly Bryant is a **** good college qb. But you only got 1 ball. Do you play kelly Bryant who is close to his ceiling or u can atleast visualize it against a kid like sunshine who personally I feel is slightly overrated but you cant deny his tools. If you get that out of him hes a once a generation type player. I'll take ANY of those qbs over basically all of our situation since brock probably. A couple possible arguements to be had in marve,jacory,possibly steve,brad. Our main problem has been we havent had any coaches in place who can develop our qbs for soooooooo long now. Kids are regressing here at the position. No excuse for that. I know I keep getting into more than the simple discussion. But it's all relevant to our failures at the position & why the situations to me arent comparable.
 
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