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Paying Players (per BJ's latest piece)

It’s not a coincidence that everyone associated with Saban as far as ex coaches suddenly start to have success at the school they move to...Tennessee and S. Carolina will be the next two schools to suddenly start having top 10 classes out of the blue.

As to Mario all if a sudden he had a top 5 class and is signing the no. 1 recruit right after leaving old Nicky.again coincidence? I doubt it

It’s all about knowing how to hide the money.Theres a system in place at Bama seconsto none.Buying homies ,no show jobs,” donations” to a family run Organization,etc.

The new thing is depositing money in an offshore account and giving the player and family ATM cards to access it.Hard to trace offshore accounts.

I’ve told you guys stories that I know for a fact have happened and was told I was full of SHT by a certain administrator.Its real guys.

Maybe we should try and hire a coach from the Saban tree for no other reason to get the system he runs.
 
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KWConch said:
It’s not a coincidence that everyone associated with Saban as far as ex coaches suddenly start to have success at the school they move to...Tennessee and S. Carolina will be the next two schools to suddenly start having top 10 classes out of the blue.

As to Mario all if a sudden he had a top 5 class and is signing the no. 1 recruit right after leaving old Nicky.again coincidence? I doubt it

It’s all about knowing how to hide the money.Theres a system in place at Bama seconsto none.Buying homies ,no show jobs,” donations” to a family run Organization,etc.

The new thing is depositing money in an offshore account and giving the player and family ATM cards to access it.Hard to trace offshore accounts.

I’ve told you guys stories that I know for a fact have happened and was told I was full of SHT by a certain administrator.Its real guys.

Maybe we should try and hire a coach from the Saban tree for no other reason to get the system he runs.
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More delusion.

Whatever system the boosters have for payoffs at Bama, the coaches like Saban and the coordinators stay far away.

They really don’t know, and don’t want to know, any of the details. Guess why.

You people need to think things through.
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
More delusion.

Whatever system the boosters have for payoffs at Bama, the coaches like Saban and the coordinators stay far away.

They really don’t know, and don’t want to know, any of the details. Guess why.

You people need to think things through.
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But yet those systems seem to follow the coaches wherever they go..maybe some of the Bama boosters go with the coaches when they leave.
 
KWConch said:
But yet those systems seem to follow the coaches wherever they go..maybe some of the Bama boosters go with the coaches when they leave.
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Coaches aren’t bringing bag dropping blueprints to their new schools. It just doesn’t work that way.
 
simplycanes said:
Let me start this off by saying when you blow you're recruiting wad on kids in Gator country, or elsewhere, at the expense of local talent, you missed out because of stupidity, not because you weren't dropping bags.

When you're scrambling down the stretch to steal recruits from the likes of Appalachian State, the difference has nothing to do with the fact you weren't paying recruits either. That too has to do with you being a ******* moron.

When you're playing a substandard and boring brand of football that puts people in the stands to sleep, what do you think the recruits in the stands think? "Okay, all these people must be narcoleptic?"

Much of recruiting is using your strategic advantage.

For certain schools, that means utilizing a large and extremely well-funded booster network to funnel cash into the pockets of recruits, or their handlers.

Now, for certain schools which shall remain nameless, that's not the only reason they're winning recruiting battles, but it definitely helps them secure their must have players who are willing to play that game.

Unfortunately, while it's a nice academic exercise to mentally ********** to this image of Tony Montana in his turnover chain flying around South Florida throwing suitcases in front of houses, that's not realistic for the U.

For starters, we are one of the most watched and monitored programs there is. It will not take long before somebody around one of these recruits rolls over on us for their own payday from one of our competitors.

I went to the Orange bowl game. There were tons of local people there all decked out in their Alabama gear. They have replaced us in this area as the program everyone aspires to get in with in some fashion. They'll burn our asses in a second.

Secondly, we don't have the funds or the localized booster base to even attempt this, much less win at it.

While it's true that we're not going to win certain battles where hands are out, the bigger reason we've been ******** up is that we've blown our strategic advantage.

That advantage is the depth of talent in the pool down here is sufficiently deep. There's plenty of kids who aren't getting paid to go elsewhere who we should be cultivating a relationship with in recruiting from the onset instead of ******** around with pipe dream recruits with a very low probability of success.

I'm not saying you don't think big and go after the best players, but too often all we do is go after plan A and ignore plan B and C. The result is you settle for plan D. Falling from plan A to plan D is not because you're not paying recruits.
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Great point, without the local talent pool UM as a football program would’ve never been what it is. Nevertheless, sometimes you have to go out of state for great players that are national recruits, especially at QB, o line, Tight end and d tackle... So fla does everything else very well. Some of our best players in recent memory have just as good if not been much better than the so fla kids. Greg Olsen, Calais Campbell, David Njoku, Gerald Willis, Chris Herndon, Allen Bailey. Unfortunately I think that’s where the bags come in.

I still think we can “bid” for those one or two program changing guys that don’t come around very often... Cam Newton, deshaun Watson etc.
 
If you think Saban is unaware of things going on in his program, you're an idiot. However....

As noted earlier in this thread, Alabama doesn't straight up drop bags. A lot of it is done with 'understandings' of what will happen while a player attends there and especially after they graduate.

The kid takes out the loans, Bama just pays them off, and then gets them deals on things like cars, housing, etc..

Alabama's whole recruiting deal is set up in grey areas outside NCAA enforcement.

So they don't out and out 'cheat' in recruiting.

Now, when it comes to 'analyst' interaction with players (they aren't supposed work with players at all), players having contact with support staff outside the times allotted by the NCAA, and even down to things like stealing signals...now, in those ways Bama 'cheats.'

Georgia and Clemson just run junior versions of the Bama 'model'. Wonder why they get kids to return to school while other schools have all their draft eligible talent leave? Because they are already living well and are flush with cash when they are in school.
 
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