forums

Pat Ivey frontrunner for S&C

We should all be very happy he stood with the players. Or however you guys are putting it, "Actively encouraged," because now we have the opportunity to snag one the best in the business without paying a buyout or having to deal with home town sentiment. This is perfect, huge upgrade.
 
Advertisement
52CANES said:
wushah said:
Agree with you in concept- just produces savages. However, it's clear that Ivey takes on a bigger role. He did at Mizzou, and there is no reason to suspect he wouldn't do the same at UM. That's why I said it would be important to note whether he's a teacher or someone different because of the implications it could have on the rest of the team and coaches.
Click to expand...

I'm sure there are plenty of professors that talk in the ear of the stupids in opposite of your politics too, should we fire all them from the University? Sounds like you afraid to get them little boys riled up with opinions and beliefs of their own. shame on them and him for supporting his players.
Click to expand...

If you read my post even above the one you qouted, I made clear that I wasn't for or against Ivey. I said that a distinction needs to be made between a teacher and an activist. On paper, it would be foolish not to be for Ivey. He's a superstar candidate.
 
WhatTheHell said:
The Svengali said:
weownfsu said:
WhatTheHell said:
I guess we're going to ignore the difference between "standing with" and "actively encouraging and provoking."
Click to expand...

Understanding something like taht is above the CIS mongoloid's intellectual capability.
Click to expand...

Evidence...produce it. Show the hard evidence to this mongoloid. I challenge you
Click to expand...

Last month, the Missourian reported that during this semester’s Men4Men seminar, which centered around race, Ivey told athletes to take action when it came to inequality they experienced on campus. About two weeks later, the Missouri football team announced its boycott, standing in solidarity with hunger-striking graduate student Jonathan Butler, who demanded that then-University of Missouri System President Tim Wolfe resign.
Click to expand...

Strength coach Pat Ivey done at Missouri | Mizzou Football | columbiamissourian.com

"I was wrong" will work.
Click to expand...

Ivey did not encourage the team to boycott or strike. Racial issues had been bubbling up on Mizzou's campus for years, and it was brought to Ivey's attention during a recurring men4men meeting that he moderated. Ivy told the student athletes he was surprised to hear that, because had never seen or experienced any kind racism as a student at Mizzou or coach at the University, but if that was anyone's experience, it was important to take action against inequality. He never said what that "action" was nor did he tell any player to boycott; he was merely saying if anyone was being mistreated, it is important to address it. That's the kind of advice you'd give your child and the advice any coach would give to a player he truly cared about. These coaches are not only coaches, they are mentors that shape these kids into men, fathers, husbands, and positive members or the community/society.

The hunger strike didn't happen as a result of that meeting, and the kid who started it was not affiliated with the men4men group. It was something he started in a vacuum, and the African American students on campus rallied around him (to include the student athletes). After the issues and the decision to boycott were brought to the Mizzou football coaches, they all stood in solidarity with the players

The men4men seminar was similar to the weekly meetings Jimmy Johnson held with players to discuss live events unrelated to football.
 
Last edited:
weownfsu said:
WhatTheHell said:
The Svengali said:
weownfsu said:
WhatTheHell said:
I guess we're going to ignore the difference between "standing with" and "actively encouraging and provoking."
Click to expand...

Understanding something like taht is above the CIS mongoloid's intellectual capability.
Click to expand...

Evidence...produce it. Show the hard evidence to this mongoloid. I challenge you
Click to expand...

Last month, the Missourian reported that during this semester’s Men4Men seminar, which centered around race, Ivey told athletes to take action when it came to inequality they experienced on campus. About two weeks later, the Missouri football team announced its boycott, standing in solidarity with hunger-striking graduate student Jonathan Butler, who demanded that then-University of Missouri System President Tim Wolfe resign.
Click to expand...

Strength coach Pat Ivey done at Missouri | Mizzou Football | columbiamissourian.com

Wow what a tough challenge that was.
Click to expand...

The newest CIS mongoloid will claim that's not "evidence."
Click to expand...

You can always tell someone with demons or personal issues, because they are quick to insult others as a means to mask their own issues or pain. Grow up and stop acting like a petulant child that needs anti-depression medication or ADHD. Let's be men, here.
 
Going back to swasey - I'm struggling here...if he was not allowed to train our guys in the weight room, who in the heck was working with our guys in the weight room?! No wonder they had really bad forms with their power lifts. Sheesh
 
Advertisement
I would think Coach Kool would have a pretty good idea about Ivey, having worked with him for 10+ years, and I'm pretty sure Richt would ask his opinion on the matter before hiring him.
 
AUcane said:
Going back to swasey - I'm struggling here...if he was not allowed to train our guys in the weight room, who in the heck was working with our guys in the weight room?! No wonder they had really bad forms with their power lifts. Sheesh
Click to expand...
That must have been a temporary set back cause i saw him on a number of occasions working the kids out..or maybe i witness a violation. .. Anyways I really liked Swassey sad to see him go.. but i understand that sometimes change can be good and from what I read I think Ivey will do a great job..so I hope we land him
 
AUcane said:
Going back to swasey - I'm struggling here...if he was not allowed to train our guys in the weight room, who in the heck was working with our guys in the weight room?! No wonder they had really bad forms with their power lifts. Sheesh
Click to expand...

With the way we were pushed around, nobody.
 
Canesfan1899 said:
AUcane said:
Going back to swasey - I'm struggling here...if he was not allowed to train our guys in the weight room, who in the heck was working with our guys in the weight room?! No wonder they had really bad forms with their power lifts. Sheesh
Click to expand...

With the way we were pushed around, nobody.
Click to expand...


Well, judging by those **** pictures at the beginning of the season, it was Richard Simmons.
 
Advertisement
Ivey didn't provoke anything.


He and hundreds of fellow Missouri student-athletes had just sat through a panel hosted by Men4Men, a Missouri athletics initiative that holds one event per semester. All male Tiger athletes are required to attend. The event took place in the lounge area of club seating at Memorial Stadium, where fans pay big to watch guys like Sherrils play. But this event wasn’t for fans. It was for athletes to listen and learn and discuss their feelings. The topic of the panel, as it was advertised on a flier handed out to the athletes: Why are race and racism so hard to discuss?

When the time came for an open discussion among athletes, Sherrils spoke for about five minutes, according to another Missouri athlete at the meeting who remembers Sherrils telling his peers that he felt steered toward an easier degree because he’s a black student-athlete. His comments kicked off a discussion that, at times, became contentious. An hour into the discussion, Missouri football’s strength coach, Pat Ivey, told the athletes they were having a good conversation. Ivey told them to take action.

“That’s where it first came to our mind, some of the things that were going on.”

Sherrils and his roommate, wide receiver J’Mon Moore, went home that night and talked about the culture at MU, according to Sherrils. They considered becoming more involved with the general student body. “That’s where it first came to our mind, some of the things that were going on,” Moore said. “There was kind of a snowball effect after that.”

That was Oct. 26. Nine days later, on Nov. 4, Moore was driving his car past picturesque Mel Carnahan Quadrangle when a small village of tents and nearby signs piqued his interest. So he parked his car. He walked to the tents and read the signs about a hunger strike. He met a graduate student named Jonathan Butler, who, as part of the student activist group Concerned Student 1950, refused to eat until then University of Missouri System President Tim #****box#****box#****box#****boxe resigned.

“That’s when I really got concerned,” Moore said of the first time he met Butler. The wide receiver said he made “some promises” to the man on the hunger strike.

And three days later, he and 29 other black Missouri football players announced over Twitter that they were boycotting all football activities until the president resigned

The life of today's black athlete, and how it influenced a movement at MU | Mizzou Football | columbiamissourian.com



All the male athletes attended some seminar that was held once a semester (not some weekly cabal like people are making it out to be). One of the players caught wind of the hunger strike, and it snowballed from there.

LOL at this guy being portrayed as Huey P. Newton or some ****.
 
itsacanething said:
is this fox news? are we hiring the guy as S&C coach or not. I don't give a rats *** about what happened at mizzou.
Click to expand...

Fox News is ok but if he were going to be featured on Dateline...

I'm all for the hire, watched several videos and read a little about him but it does make you wonder why he is being let go. Especially since most are saying he is one of the best.
 
Back
Top