forums

Pac 12 out

Advertisement
Advertisement
PAC 12 Schools policies on students in classrooms:

CAL - 100% Virtual
UCLA - Was 100% virtual. Mid July moved to 8% in classroom, likely to move higher
USC - private and can't decide
UW - 20% classroom, 80% virtual
WSU - hyflex
OSU - Normal, but no "in-person meetings"
Oregon - 100% normal
Stanford - private & hybrid
Arizona State - 100% normal
Zona - 100% normal
Colorado - 100% normal
Utah - hybrid
 
SayWhat said:
You all do realize that everyone is going to postpone until the Spring at least.

No point in laughing at these other conferences, they're all going to cave in.
Click to expand...

At least the remaining conferences are doing what they can to play foootball, instead of caving to optics and manufactured concerns
 
mackjones said:
Literally LMFAO... that CornSUCKER football program AD approached the SEC on Monday night about possibly playing in the conference. But, TWO SEC AD's said... " WE DON'T WANT THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that's sweet as maple syrup on a Sunday AM. huh?

And good luck with the BIG 12 Herbie CornSUCKER good ol' boys and good ol' girls. Because there's a STRONG POSSIBILITY the Big 12 will opt out of football in the Year of the Disease. Ouch. In other words, both Texas and Oklahoma are two of those Red States which have seen an astronomical rise in disease cases the past four weeks. Yikes.
Click to expand...
Source ?
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
At least the remaining conferences are doing what they can to play foootball, instead of caving to optics and manufactured concerns
Click to expand...

They'll cave in the end.

Manufactured concern over lawsuits? I'm not sure if that is what you mean and while I think the lawsuit angle is silly, proving it could get very expensive for a lot of universities.

This is purely based on butts in seats. You're talking at most a stadium, at least at the start, 25 percent full. Taking the average of the Power 5 conferences attendance at 55k, $100 a head for those in attendance (a conservative number as some schools are hundreds of dollars), you're looking at a met loss of 30 million dollars just in the gate.

It's money driven, no matter how they dress it up. Potential lawsuits to loss of revenue. It is what it is.
 
Advertisement
SayWhat said:
They'll cave in the end.

Manufactured concern over lawsuits? I'm not sure if that is what you mean and while I think the lawsuit angle is silly, proving it could get very expensive for a lot of universities.

This is purely based on butts in seats. You're talking at most a stadium, at least at the start, 25 percent full. Taking the average of the Power 5 conferences attendance at 55k, $100 a head for those in attendance (a conservative number as some schools are hundreds of dollars), you're looking at a met loss of 30 million dollars just in the gate.

It's money driven, no matter how they dress it up. Potential lawsuits to loss of revenue. It is what it is.
Click to expand...

Lawsuits aren’t an issue more than in any other season. That’s just a trope people are throwing around without any actual deep understanding of liability issues.

The revenue issue - you’re not thinking through. Less revenue is better than zero revenue. TV rights are the biggest piece of the money pie, maybe even more so for schools like Miami
 
OriginalCanesCanesCanes said:
Lawsuits aren’t an issue more than in any other season. That’s just a trope people are throwing around without any actual deep understanding of liability issues.

The revenue issue - you’re not thinking through. Less revenue is better than zero revenue. TV rights are the biggest piece of the money pie, maybe even more so for schools like Miami
Click to expand...

You're completely overlooking the cost. Most schools don't even break even, let alone be profitable. You take away three quarters of the gate, even less are profitable if any. Sure, television revenue is part of it, but that pales in comparison to the gate at big schools.
 
SayWhat said:
You're completely overlooking the cost. Most schools don't even break even, let alone be profitable. You take away three quarters of the gate, even less are profitable if any. Sure, television revenue is part of it, but that pales in comparison to the gate at big schools.
Click to expand...
No I’m not. I am absolutely taking costs into consideration.

Most schools, as long as they are keeping non-revenue sports, are going to continue to have the same fixed costs they have had. Whether fall sports are played or not, those fixed costs remain.

If they play football, their variable costs go up, their fixed costs remain the same, but the TV revenue alone, more than makes up for their variable costs of football operations.

So playing is a net plus for the top line, whatever their bottom line is. So if they are losing money, they lose more with no football revenue. And most schools, even Miami are at a net plus for football revenue minus fixed + variable costs.

So losing football revenue is a net loss. Whether you are losing or making money. If you are losing money, you lose more, if you are making money you go into the red, without football revenue. And most P5 programs are in the black when you look at football revenue vs football expenses.
 
Advertisement
Advertisement
Back
Top