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Tetragrammaton Cane said:
it won’t make them great, but it could make them good - or at least serviceable. Plus, “naturally bad” is an overstatement; it’s not their fault they’re playing. Other schools are starting Freshman on the OL and they’re killing it (UGA only threw 18 passes to beat SC on 274 yards rushing); Miami should not need to wait for freshman, redshirt frosh, and sophomores to pass what you described as “bad players”. Supposed 4*’s and high-3*’s should be able to pass them, no?

Mia mi used to b eknown for the school that converted players from a high school position to a different college position...but that takes exceptional evaluations and sometimes patience (Sapp the TE). If Miami were to use the philosophy that Iowa uses, Polendey would be a candidate for OT in 2 years.
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Not saying s&c doesn’t help but there’s a nastiness aspect you just can’t teach on oline with s&c and I have yet to see Mahoney or Jones want to dominate the man in front of them
 
S&C and the injuries aren't the issue. The issue is we aren't good enough to plug and play behind any starter like a BAMA
 
SayWhat said:
If that were true then OL would always lose as DL's are typically shorter and it's easier to get lower. Yes, pad level does matter, but when you have 30 to 40 poounds on a guy which means more muscle mass, then you should get more push than we saw. This was the equivalent of an elite high school team and that might be giving rthem too much credit.
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you need technique and there is no getting around it. you dont automatically win because of size and strength. thats especially true ig your opponent is coached well.

im only 6' 195 and you can be as big and strong as you want. wont move me an inch without proper technique to go with that size

even that weak *** fsu alum commentatin the game talked about our lack pf technique and physicality at the point of attack. we absorb instead of attacking. its weird and has nothing to do with talent or S&C.

guarantee if Sam Pittman was coaching these same kids theyd be animals
 
iLoveTDs said:
This. There's a difference between power and strength (think elite athlete vs bodybuilder). We could look the part coming off the bus, but get our **** pushed in by a team equal in size but more powerful.

Understand the difference and you'll stop caring about how we look, and more about how we move on the field.

Scheme and technique certainly play a role, but lack of power and explosiveness is a very easy thing to spot during games.
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Train the fast twitch type 1a and 1b muscle fiber.
 
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nycane said:
Is there something wrong? the amount of bad injuries is crazy. i mean i was always suspect of having a fat dude as our S&C but
off the top of my head here are some of the guys who have head injuries (i know some you can control like young)

walton
AR
pickney
gordinier
herndon
Herbert
Young
Irvin
Rosseau
D Jack
Patach (tho his issue pre-cede this staff)
Evidence

Is this normal?
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I'm sure you can find a celebrity trainer in South Beach with abs of steel. Let us know.
 
Canezum5 said:
you need technique and there is no getting around it. you dont automatically win because of size and strength. thats especially true ig your opponent is coached well.

im only 6' 195 and you can be as big and strong as you want. wont move me an inch without proper technique to go with that size

even that weak *** fsu alum commentatin the game talked about our lack pf technique and physicality at the point of attack. we absorb instead of attacking. its weird and has nothing to do with talent or S&C.

guarantee if Sam Pittman was coaching these same kids theyd be animals
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I realize you don't get by on just size and strength. Having said that, they were facing guys like they did in high school. Technique is wonderful, but sometimes people overplayed that hand.
 
PokemonFisherman said:
Lol ok... like someone said show me the info where it increases bone density then we will talk
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1) Um - not all injuries are bone fractures/breaks.

2) There’s plenty of evidence that supports the fact that high intensity resistance training can increase bone density.

^ But I wasn’t even talking about injuries related to the skeletal system. I was referring more to the muscular system.
 
‘Nastiness’ may be overused hyperbole, but I don’t see an OL that wants to physically dominate the defense. The kind that would love nothing more than a 10-play touchdown drive, all runs, where they imposed their will on the opponent. Where the defense knows what’s coming and can’t do anything to stop it.

There is a talent gap preventing Miami from having that type of OL, no doubt.

There is absolutely an attitude gap.
 
nycane said:
im talking other injuries. maybe i just overrated because of lack of depth. we jut have a bad injury bug lately
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There is no strength program designed to prevent knee and ankle injuries unless the players are suffering from undiagnosed osteoporosis.
 
iLoveTDs said:
1) Um - not all injuries are bone fractures/breaks.

2) There’s plenty of evidence that supports the fact that high intensity resistance training can increase bone density.

^ But I wasn’t even talking about injuries related to the skeletal system. I was referring more to the muscular system.
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Oh yes I believe that it does lower injures with muscle/ligaments.
A fracture ankle is kinda just bad luck
 
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pacusmc said:
The only thing i see from a medical standpoint talking to some guys that do training for a living is that The team looks stiff.
I literally think the running backs need to limber up.
If you look at the great backs they were all very flexible. Barry Sanders AP and now Barkley have huge legs but very very flexible. It improves he explosiveness pad level and change in direction.
Mark Walton was also very flexible.
If it was me I would implement some yoga.
A lot of mma guys swear buy it and it’s getting more and more popular in the military.
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Preach, I remember years ago when it came out Bill parcells had the giants taking ballet.

Go Canee
 
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