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Gotta wonder if they can Harbaugh would they go after Hugh Freeze?

Or Jim Leonard the DC from Wisky who i think is waiting to become the head man there when Chryst retires
 
gogeta4 said:
They are able to redshirt guys and usually start a ghroup of 4th and 5th year players who have been around for awhile. Its been years of that and most schools dont have that luxury. Look at us...All 3 of our interior guys would be on fg units there.

If your able to shirt and keep guys there for 5 years with the right pedigree then you would be able to always field solid units.
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Is it possible for us to do something similar to that long term? I can’t see us getting past Clemson without doing something about our offensive line play. Wisconsin has dominated us both times they’ve played us.
 
Canes2082 said:
Gotta wonder if they can Harbaugh would they go after Hugh Freeze?

Or Jim Leonard the DC from Wisky who i think is waiting to become the head man there when Chryst retires
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Freeze has to much baggage IMO. Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell would be the likely choice. Both have strong ties to Ohio which Michigan needs to get back in there for recruiting.
 
umcane4life said:
Freeze has to much baggage IMO. Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell would be the likely choice. Both have strong ties to Ohio which Michigan needs to get back in there for recruiting.
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They need to expand their recruiting map. OSU’s WRs and RBs are largely not from Ohio. Need to grab those guys nationwide.
 
Patreek said:
It’s not exactly rocket science though. They have one of the best walk-on cultures in football. They make guys sit and learn and develop. They bring in athletes who fit their profile and develop them long term. it also doesn’t hurt that for hundreds of miles every hulking brute wants to play for them. It also doesn’t hurt that at this point if you are an offensive lineman with aspirations you know when they offer you take the offer. Just like LSU and receivers and Miami with tight ends.

The culture, evaluation, and coaching aspect is probably a huge portion of the secret sauce that can’t be duplicated.
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It can be duplicated but the way Wisconsin wins takes time because you're also changing culture and mind set. Who has the patience these days for that sort of process? Most want to see results sooner.
 
I'm not sold on Don Brown at all. I mean that defense has been getting destroyed all year and a lot of last year. From what I've heard (I don't watch Michigan much as they're boring as ****, so may be wrong), he's very stubborn in that he only plays man d even if it isn't working. I know we want to play more aggressive man, but I'm not big on coaches who won't adjust which I obviously don't have to explain to anyone on this board.
 
section9 said:
Is it possible for us to do something similar to that long term? I can’t see us getting past Clemson without doing something about our offensive line play. Wisconsin has dominated us both times they’ve played us.
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That’s kind of the entire theory behind guys like Nelson, Washington, Elgammal.

It doesn’t work because coaches put guys on the field early, guys leave, or the evaluations suck. The other thing that doesn’t work is the walk-on guys pushing players as the student body size at Miami is tiny and no one thinks of Miami as having a strong walk-on program.
 
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Patreek said:
It’s not exactly rocket science though. They have one of the best walk-on cultures in football. They make guys sit and learn and develop. They bring in athletes who fit their profile and develop them long term. it also doesn’t hurt that for hundreds of miles every hulking brute wants to play for them. It also doesn’t hurt that at this point if you are an offensive lineman with aspirations you know when they offer you take the offer. Just like LSU and receivers and Miami with tight ends.

The culture, evaluation, and coaching aspect is probably a huge portion of the secret sauce that can’t be duplicated.
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And the free cheese baskets.
 
JeddTheFisch said:
Maybe they'll give Gary Moeller a chance at redemption.
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Lloyd Car can thank Gary for bringing in the talent that helped Michigan to a part of 1997 title. Lloyd Car was a notch above Coker. Dude was given the keys to a Ferrari and he ran it into the ground.

Gary just loved to booze too much
 
NorthEastCane said:
It can be duplicated but the way Wisconsin wins takes time because you're also changing culture and mind set. Who has the patience these days for that sort of process? Most want to see results sooner.
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Agree to disagree. Some of it can be duplicated. But some definitely can’t.

Miami might need to double its student body in order to have more bodies to pull from.
Miami would need to make a walk-on program that recruits, coaches, and trains as if the guys were scholarship players.
Miami would have to overpay for a proven offensive line coach to stay long term.
Miami would have to overpay for a proven offensive line recruiter to stay long term.
Miami would have to sit incoming OL recruits for 3 years and the guys actually stay.
Miami might have stop playing a spread offense and install an offense that showcases the offensive line like Wisconsin does.
Miami would have to install a culture nearly the polar opposite of the turnover chain or of the South Florida “all ‘bout me” Instagram warrior dawgs.
Miami would have to have winning seasons consistently.
Miami would have to consistently put some of these OL in the NFL and have them succeed there.


The odds of Miami implementing anywhere close to everything I listed above is very close to zero.
 
dstuart4 said:
DC Don Brown gone be lookin' for job come the late December. Worth kickin'
the tires on? How much of the blame does he shoulder for Michigan's performance? The wolverines HC looks like Mork in 2018, Zombified.
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No. He is AWFUL
 
Number1CanesFan said:
I just don't get why teams don'tdo what they do. If these were NFL teams, Whisky's entire process would be duplicated.
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Saban brought that style to LSU & Alabama, now He's spread...and He accomplished the transition from Pro-Style to Spread without a bunch of O-Linemen from the midwest.

TBH, I'd rather have our shortcomings than theirs, Wisky & UofM's O-Linemen are just good for run blocking. I watched UofM play Alabama in the bowl game last year, and the difference in speed wasn't even close.
 
GojiraCane said:
Or Urban Meyer. That would be hilarious.
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They have threads on their 247 site that are begging for Urban.... more so to stick it to OSU but i dont think Urban would go there. I could see ND in his future possibly
 
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umcane4life said:
Freeze has to much baggage IMO. Luke Fickell or Matt Campbell would be the likely choice. Both have strong ties to Ohio which Michigan needs to get back in there for recruiting.
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Fickell... good catch i forgot about him
 
Canes2082 said:
They have threads on their 247 site that are begging for Urban.... more so to stick it to OSU but i dont think Urban would go there. I could see ND in his future possibly
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Every team that sucks has fans begging for Urban. He's never going to go to a Big 10 school.

I think Urban is done with coaching. He knows he puts so much into it that the stress affects his health.
 
JD08 said:
Every team that sucks has fans begging for Urban. He's never going to go to a Big 10 school.

I think Urban is done with coaching. He knows he puts so much into it that the stress affects his health.
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He has a huge loyalty to OSU as well. Isnt his wife a professor there and hes still some sort of an advisor to them I believe..
 
Cribby said:
This is what’s so bad about this, it’s him or nobody lol. They begged him for years , until the money got too crazy and he gave in.

If the prodigal son can’t do it then who?
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Eric Bieniemy is who. Michigan can give him a talented day one roster and a HUGE come be a college coach contract. He won’t take a college HC job unless it’s an elite one for all the money. It is and they have it. Get him before he’s gone. That’s my number one choice for them. They’re not smart enough to get him....
 
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