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Maybe they'll give Gary Moeller a chance at redemption.
 
my point is..he was at ******* Stanford and built it into a legitimate program. David shaw took it over and has made a stable run..he went to San Fran turned a laughing stock into a force in the NFC.

Michigan has been, and forever will be OSU little brother. Comparing that to FSU Miami is a mistake. Our rivalry is great because it’s been competitive. OSU vs Mich is great soley based on Blue blood tradition. When he got hired I didn’t understand the hype around the program. They ain’t been **** since the 90s..before that they hadn’t won since like WW2
So he is good enough to turn around Stanford and the laughing stock 49ers. So what happen at Michigan? Shouldn't he be good enough to turn Michigan around and get least one victory against Ohio State?
 
So he is good enough to turn around Stanford and the laughing stock 49ers. So what happen at Michigan? Shouldn't he be good enough to turn Michigan around and get least one victory against Ohio State?
At michigan..3 10 win szns a 9 win szn a 8 win szn in 5 year span. They suck this year ..before he got there they had 4 double digit win szns in 15 years . They have beat OSU 3 times since 2000.. so if the measuring stick is consistently beating OSU, and competing annually for a playoff birth I’d say that’s unrealistic unless OSU or ND for that matter implodes in that region no matter who they get outside of Ole Goat Saban it’s gunna be more of the same.

again I never understood the hype around that program. They living off 1 natty since WW2
 
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I just don't get why teams don'tdo what they do. If these were NFL teams, Whisky's entire process would be duplicated.
It’s not exactly rocket science though. They have one of the best walk-on cultures in football. They make guys sit and learn and develop. They bring in athletes who fit their profile and develop them long term. it also doesn’t hurt that for hundreds of miles every hulking brute wants to play for them. It also doesn’t hurt that at this point if you are an offensive lineman with aspirations you know when they offer you take the offer. Just like LSU and receivers and Miami with tight ends.

The culture, evaluation, and coaching aspect is probably a huge portion of the secret sauce that can’t be duplicated.
 
It’s not exactly rocket science though. They have one of the best walk-on cultures in football. They make guys sit and learn and develop. They bring in athletes who fit their profile and develop them long term. it also doesn’t hurt that for hundreds of miles every hulking brute wants to play for them. It also doesn’t hurt that at this point if you are an offensive lineman with aspirations you know when they offer you take the offer. Just like LSU and receivers and Miami with tight ends.

The culture, evaluation, and coaching aspect is probably a huge portion of the secret sauce that can’t be duplicated.
Exactly. You bring that staff down south, that staff ain’t getting them big boys to flock down south. And south Florida skill definitely don’t wanna play in that system. There’s very few places that could duplicate what they do up there
 
Every coach and offensive lineman needs to watch the Wisconsin offensive line work. IMO, they're the best I've seen so far this year.

I don't know why teams don't copy their blocking scheme and learn how they develop offensive linemen.

They have an extensive walk-on program. Guys who could play in the MAC or elsewhere walk on at Wisconsin, so they find a lot of diamonds in the rough.

They don’t have a ton of local talent, but the trade off is they’re a big state school in a state with no other FBS football programs.
 
At michigan..3 10 win szns a 9 win szn a 8 win szn in 5 year span. They suck this year ..before he got there they had 4 double digit win szns in 15 years . They have beat OSU 3 times since 2000.. so if the measuring stick is consistently beating OSU, and competing annually for a playoff birth I’d say that’s unrealistic unless OSU or ND for that matter implodes in that region no matter who they get outside of Ole Goat Saban it’s gunna be more of the same.

again I never understood the hype around that program. They living off 1 natty since WW2
Its unrealistic for Michigan fans to want to beat their rivals(3-8), make a playoff birth while bringing the second best recruiting class in the conference and having "top tier" head coach? Ok..got it
 
Its unrealistic for Michigan fans to want to beat their rivals(3-8), make a playoff birth while bringing the second best recruiting class in the conference and having "top tier" head coach? Ok..got it
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Yes, if I'm a coach I make friends and ask to see how they develop linemen.
They are able to redshirt guys and usually start a ghroup of 4th and 5th year players who have been around for awhile. Its been years of that and most schools dont have that luxury. Look at us...All 3 of our interior guys would be on fg units there.

If your able to shirt and keep guys there for 5 years with the right pedigree then you would be able to always field solid units.
 
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This is an insane statistic I saw over on Reddit:

"Michigan only has one win, over Minnesota who only has one win, over Illinois who only has one win, over Rutgers who only has one win, over Michigan State who only has one win, over Michigan who only has one win…"

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This is an insane statistic I saw over on Reddit:

"Michigan only has one win, over Minnesota who only has one win, over Illinois who only has one win, over Rutgers who only has one win, over Michigan State who only has one win, over Michigan who only has one win…"

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Woah your about to confuse alot of people with that
 
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