OT why is butch barry succeding with the Dolphins but was a flop here?

[DBCooper88]

I'm not football guru, but I remember him being railed here, because his lines were pretty bad. Guess my question is.... is there something about his techniques that uniquely transfer to the NFL that just don't work for college ball?

 

[Flynell7]

Who knows , but good for him. Both parties are in a better place.

 

[407cane]

good/bad offensive schemes can help / hurt any OL

only 2 starting qb's have less pocket time than Tua so far this year, so wouldn't say he's exactly killing it but clearly he's not causing harm (yet)

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[Genghis Cane]

His OC was Dan Enos and he didn’t have a ton to work with.

He identified Zion out of high school, so he gets some credit for that.

 

[The U is back to work]

Was thinking this the other day lol
He gave up 7 sacks in a game here and somehow had made Austin Jackson a wall

 

[MedleyCane]

He identified Zion out of high school, so he gets some credit for that.

Are you sure?
I always thought it was Barry's predecessor Stacy Searles who identified Zion, whom at the time was an Appy State commit.

 

[simplycanes]

No two circumstances are the same. McDaniel’s and Enos’ offense’s couldn’t be farther apart. The latter didn’t do very much to help him, that’s for sure, asking a TFr left tackle to hold blocks for 7 step drops.

 

[Brains]

The Dolphins offense attempts to minimize the OL's shortcomings. More of the latter will be visible as the year goes on. The line isn't anything great.

 

[Golsen82]

BUTCH BARRY WILL BE COLORADO OL COACH NEXT YEAR

 

[Canesq]

The Dolphins offense attempts to minimize the OL's shortcomings. More of the latter will be visible as the year goes on. The line isn't anything great.

Yep it’s the combination of scheme and Tua processing and getting the ball out quickly.

A couple of the highlights against the Chargers the lineman got beat but Tua already had the ball out.

That dime to Berrios against the Pats he was under immense pressure but Tua has elite pocket presence.

This is such an underrated skill for QBs. Watching years of Tannehill take sacks help me appreciate Tua so much.

 

[mcnaire2004]

IDK, the OL sucked for almost 20 years. Just a bunch of soft, weak, sad pile of excuses. Many OL coaches sucked with us but were successful elsewhere.

 

[305407cane]

His OC was Dan Enos and he didn’t have a ton to work with.

He identified Zion out of high school, so he gets some credit for that.

The same Dan enos who is under major fire at Arkansas?

 

[WestEndZone]

Can’t make chicken soup with chicken ****

 

[Memnon]

The NFL & College are 2 different games.

Being a good Coach in one, doesn’t mean you’re going to be good in the other.

See Urby Meyer

 

[Mikep]

His OC was Dan Enos and he didn’t have a ton to work with.

He identified Zion out of high school, so he gets some credit for that.

Zion was signed in december before barry got the job here.

 

[grover]

Did he evaluate and identify talent well? Did he land top recruits? Nope… I don’t care how good a techniques coach you are you need quality ingredients to bake a winning cake.

 

[FuriousStyles]

It was same with Stoutland.

He was “meh” here and considered top tier after he bounced.

 

[88]

McKinney and Romberg thought the techniques he taught were joke, but idk what that’s worth this day and age.

 

[Brains]

Yep it’s the combination of scheme and Tua processing and getting the ball out quickly.

A couple of the highlights against the Chargers the lineman got beat but Tua already had the ball out.

That dime to Berrios against the Pats he was under immense pressure but Tua has elite pocket presence.

This is such an underrated skill for QBs. Watching years of Tannehill take sacks help me appreciate Tua so much.

HIll is a hall of famer. Waddle is very good. McDaniel designs plays well. Tua is highly accurate to 15 yards.

He's a one-read QB, but when that read works, it's great. That's how the entire offense is designed.

 

[armandose23]

IDK, the OL sucked for almost 20 years. Just a bunch of soft, weak, sad pile of excuses. Many OL coaches sucked with us but were successful elsewhere.

I will add undersized to that list. Hated when people would say we had a “small but athletic” OLine. That’s like saying you have a slow but nimble race car.