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OT: UCF QB is ****ed off about Notre Dame.

ND has a much better overall resume than UCF. Pitt was one game for both teams.

ND beat Michigan in week 1, which is far more than UCF has done.
 
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Tetragrammaton Cane said:
Running an offense is not just passing (you know that). Burrow beat Miami by checking to a run play that blew the game open. In addition, Michigan has been lights out for the last month. Different play.
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The season includes all 12 games, not just the last month. Notre Dame is an easy choice for the playoffs if they win the last two.
 
Katzenboyer said:
If 9-4 Pitt take down 12-0 Clemson, the Tigers in that scenario would still qualify as an at-large most likely.
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Oh, yeah, I'm certain Clemson would still get in. But I don't want to see a 9-4 team in the playoffs. That's the part that I don't like.
 
dwreck27 said:
Why is he attacking ND? Because their “independent”??

Their biggest gripe should be that that a 1 loss Michigan team is over them

But hey play a better schedule than just 1 power 5
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To be fair, UCF originally had 2 Power 5 teams on their schedule, but UNC cancelled because of the hurricane.
 
Caneman2 said:
ND has a much better overall resume than UCF. Pitt was one game for both teams.

ND beat Michigan in week 1, which is far more than UCF has done.
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ND also has the better common opponent result with Navy, which sort of undermines the argument that UCF beat Pitt by more than ND did (and which forms the entire basis of the QB's argument).
 
Jaromir Jagr said:
Those three teams, when scheduled, were more formidable than anything UCF has scheduled.

Any thoughts on that Missouri-UCF comparison?
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Those teams are purely p5 also rans. None of which are particularly good nor have a history of being particularly good. If anything, Georgia Tech is a much better program than any of them.

I was also told transitive property cannot be applied to college football but I believe UCF would mop the floor with Missouri.
 
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Caneman2 said:
To be fair, UCF originally had 2 Power 5 teams on their schedule, but UNC cancelled because of the hurricane.
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And a win against a 1-8 P5 team would do absolutely nothing to help UCF's case, so that's not a great argument for the Knights.
 
Tetragrammaton Cane said:
Agreed. But that doesn’t change the fact that there are a few teams out there better than them (my opinion) but happen to have a loss.
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That may be so. But Michigan can't be considered one of those teams, since they had their shot and lost.

Georgia and OU definitely have a case, but ND still has the best win out of any of those teams right now and haven't slipped up. That's why they're 3.
 
DTP said:
Those teams are purely p5 also rans. None of which are particularly good nor have a history of being particularly good. If anything, Georgia Tech is a much better program than any of them.

I was also told transitive property cannot be applied to college football but I believe UCF would mop the floor with Missouri.
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You have shown that you believe in comparing common opponents. Missouri > UCF.
 
Hegemon said:
Ohh fair enough....however if they win don't they earn it? The at large could be the 11-2 loser no?
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Yeah, they would get the at-large. I just wouldn't want to see a Pitt-Alabama matchup. That's the danger of conference champs being automatic. I kind of like the fact that college football does it differently.
 
CaneSwag1995 said:
Cool. They played as hard as possible against the one Power 5 team on their schedule because it’s their Super Bowl. If they had to do it week in and week out, it would be a different story.

UCF does not belong in the playoff. Anybody arguing that has lost their ******* mind.
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Winjing 20+ games in a row requires a level of focus most teams will never acheive. Beating pitt and auburn proves what theyre capable of. That being said. They dont deserve a bidnover an defeated ND
 
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If a team goes undefeated two years in a row, including a win over a P5 in a NY6 bowl the previous year, and still gets left out of the playoffs in favor of a two loss team, or a 1 loss non-conference champion (not including ND since they are independent) then the system is broken.

Those arguing for excluding UCF would have been the same arguing against Miami back in '83 when we were considered a "newcomer". Granted, Miami played difficult schedules back then, but it was because they were independent and so were many others. Nowadays, you have these huge conferences, with 80% of everyone's schedule being conference games, and most of the P5 programs scheduling nothing but cupcakes for their non-con games. It's not really fair to hold UCF's schedule against them at this point when no one will play them. If you make that argument, you are basically telling the G5 to go F off, they are eliminated from playing for an NC before the season even starts, and they should just go create their own separate division.

I'm pretty much fine with where UCF is right now, although I question them being behind OSU. UCF would have given Purdue a much better game than OSU did. 2 loss LSU should also be behind UCF. That puts them at 9. If they remain undefeated, and we have Bama, Clemson, and ND all undefeated, with a one loss Pac12, Big12, or Big10 champ, then so be it, UCF is out. If the next best team has two losses, there is no way a team on a 25 game winning streak should be left out, if for no other reason than to shut them up and re-establish order.

All of that said, UCF has been playing with fire and they could well lose. There is a reason we don't lock in playoff berths and final rankings until all the games have been played. Let it play out.
 
g8rh8rMD said:
If a team goes undefeated two years in a row, including a win over a P5 in a NY6 bowl the previous year, and still gets left out of the playoffs in favor of a two loss team, or a 1 loss non-conference champion (not including ND since they are independent) then the system is broken.

Those arguing for excluding UCF would have been the same arguing against Miami back in '83 when we were considered a "newcomer". Granted, Miami played difficult schedules back then, but it was because they were independent and so were many others. Nowadays, you have these huge conferences, with 80% of everyone's schedule being conference games, and most of the P5 programs scheduling nothing but cupcakes for their non-con games. It's not really fair to hold UCF's schedule against them at this point when no one will play them. If you make that argument, you are basically telling the G5 to go F off, they are eliminated from playing for an NC before the season even starts, and they should just go create their own separate division.

I'm pretty much fine with where UCF is right now, although I question them being behind OSU. UCF would have given Purdue a much better game than OSU did. 2 loss LSU should also be behind UCF. That puts them at 9. If they remain undefeated, and we have Bama, Clemson, and ND all undefeated, with a one loss Pac12, Big12, or Big10 champ, then so be it, UCF is out. If the next best team has two losses, there is no way a team on a 25 game winning streak should be left out, if for no other reason than to shut them up and re-establish order.

All of that said, UCF has been playing with fire and they could well lose. There is a reason we don't lock in playoff berths and final rankings until all the games have been played. Let it play out.
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Nah. UCF’s schedule sucks. They don’t get credit for beating up on cupcakes, and if you reward that, you eliminate any incentive for P5 teams to schedule tough OOC games.
 
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