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OT. Possible transferTyree Jackson

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330 Cane said:
Since you can’t read, Jackson could have been a bridge to a difference maker.
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As opposed to the three whole guys already on the roster? There is no way you can gather that after watching full games of Jackson. It's just rosier with a cannon arm.
 
330 Cane said:
He is a better option than what we have. Enos also runs a different system than our 3 guys played in. Jackson surrounded by our skill would have been effective. What did you see in our guys that gives you hope?
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The only 1-year rental I believe Miami would have taken was Jalen Hurts because Enos coached him. Jackson was a very good player in the MAC. It's hard to tell how he would have fared against ACC or other Power 5 conference games week in week out. He did not play a Power 5 opponent last year and just 1 the year before. Just to put everything in perspective Rosier was outstanding against Toledo in 2017 and he played well against Toledo in 2018. Jackson threw 3 picks against Toledo. What he had going for him is a lot of game experience. Quite frankly I am comfortable with 1 of the 3 on the current roster under Enos.
 
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Pentagon Cane said:
The only 1-year rental I believe Miami would have taken was Jalen Hurts because Enos coached him. Jackson was a very good player in the MAC. It's hard to tell how he would have fared against ACC or other Power 5 conference games week in week out. He did not play a Power 5 opponent last year and just 1 the year before. Just to put everything in perspective Rosier was outstanding against Toledo in 2017 and he played well against Toledo in 2018. Jackson threw 3 picks against Toledo. What he had going for him is a lot of game experience. Quite frankly I am comfortable with 1 of the 3 on the current roster under Enos.
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Get back to me on August and let me know if you’re still warm and cozy.
 
330 Cane said:
Let me try to help you out. This kid was coming to UM and was told he projected as a third rounder. He got bad advice, declared when he could have come here, won the job, and improved his status. In case you missed the draft, several UM players declared over the past number of years and they would like a redo as woul

Did you watch our QBs blindfolded?
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So....still no idea what the point of this thread is. Unless we’re just gonna go ahead and start threads on every UDFA at a position of need who still had eligibility, what’s the point?
 
Lokest said:
As opposed to the three whole guys already on the roster? There is no way you can gather that after watching full games of Jackson. It's just rosier with a cannon arm.
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Enos has not named a starter. People that know more than you and I say it is because our three QBs are tied for LAST not first. Our HC said “We’ll play the guy that makes the LEAST bad mistakes”. That’s worrisome
 
I think the point is people need to be a bit more realistic in their expectations of these transfers:

Tyree Jackson was seen as a mid to late round NFL pick when he was thinking about transferring here. Expectations were he could ball out here and get drafted even higher. He went undrafted

Dee Delaney was seen as a 5th round pick when he transferred here. He was expected to ball out and get drafted even higher. He went undrafted.

Tate Martell was expected to transfer here and take over the QB competition. He may win it, or he may finish 3rd. It's very much a fight.

KJ Osborn is now being expected by some to have an All-ACC type season. We'll see

Totally get the excitement over the possibility of what these players can be. But if we're being realistic - let's take about 25-30% off there
 
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330 Cane said:
The position calls for a difference maker, unfortunately we don’t have one.
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Martell is the definition of a difference maker. So far everyone has counted him out by only seeing him in a limited and controlled environment; in addition to learning a completely new offense. Martell shines best when the bullets are flying. See you 8/24!
 
duke4heisman said:
Martell is the definition of a difference maker. So far everyone has counted him out by only seeing him in a limited and controlled environment; in addition to learning a completely new offense. Martell shines best when the bullets are flying. See you 8/24!
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People in football ops at O$U don’t agree. Lawrence is a difference maker, Murray, Baker, Tua and so on. Martell can’t clearly win the job from Kosi and Jarren. That’s not a difference maker
 
330 Cane said:
People in football ops at O$U don’t agree. Lawrence is a difference maker, Murray, Baker, Tua and so on. Martell can’t clearly win the job from Kosi and Jarren. That’s not a difference maker
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LOL keep thinking that. Day wanted Fields and did everything possible to get him. Guess who personally went to see Tate after watching his tape? Urban, yeah 3x national championship coach wanted him and Tate executed his offense perfectly. Wait until he gets a hold of Enos system, I'm not knocking on the other 2 but Tate has something elite that they don't; and it's the same trait as some of the difference makers you mentioned above
 
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duke4heisman said:
LOL keep thinking that. Day wanted Fields and did everything possible to get him. Guess who personally went to see Tate after watching his tape? Urban, yeah 3x national championship coach wanted him and Tate executed his offense perfectly. Wait until he gets a hold of Enos system, I'm not knocking on the other 2 but Tate has something elite that they don't; and it's the same trait as some of the difference makers you mentioned above
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What has Tate done that makes you compare him to the elite QBs. I’ll answer my own question...nothing! He played a few series in O$U blow outs. If he was a difference maker, the fight for the job would be history. Also Day is not Running urbans offense and tate got out of Dodge because of such
 
330 Cane said:
What has Tate done that makes you compare him to the elite QBs. I’ll answer my own question...nothing! He played a few series in O$U blow outs. If he was a difference maker, the fight for the job would be history. Also Day is not Running urbans offense and tate got out of Dodge because of such
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You just proved my point. Day has a more pro style background from the NFL, Tate was not his guy. He was a 3x national champions guy though and that should speak for itself. Not to mention no matter how much people want to discredit high school, he absolutely dominated a national schedule, winning a national title. Including against St. Thomas in the clutch. His mop up duty you cast aside shows it at the D1 level, regardless of competition. Watch him improvise against Oregon State, was about to get sacked and immediately tossed it to the RB in flats, essentially making it a successful option play. That wasn't designed, that was his elite improvisation on the fly. We all know what he did against Rutgers and he also shined against Tulane. Keep in mind he was a redshirt freshman, behind a QB that was a Heisman finalist and just picked in the first round of NFL draft
 
duke4heisman said:
You just proved my point. Day has a more pro style background from the NFL, Tate was not his guy. He was a 3x national champions guy though and that should speak for itself. Not to mention no matter how much people want to discredit high school, he absolutely dominated a national schedule, winning a national title. Including against St. Thomas in the clutch. His mop up duty you cast aside shows it at the D1 level, regardless of competition. Watch him improvise against Oregon State, was about to get sacked and immediately tossed it to the RB in flats, essentially making it a successful option play. That wasn't designed, that was his elite improvisation on the fly. We all know what he did against Rutgers and he also shined against Tulane. Keep in mind he was a redshirt freshman, behind a QB that was a Heisman finalist and just picked in the first round of NFL draft
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He was behind Burroughs before he left for Baton Rouge. Again if he was so good, he would not be struggling to win the job against two mediocre power 5 QBs. Do you have a TV? If so, did you watch Kosi? Do you know Williams couldn’t beat him out for playing time. Please don’t mention Tate in the same week as Baker, Murray, Lawrence, Tua or the rest of the elite QBs, not even close.
 
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