OT: Olympics could be canceled

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The question is the same as US suppliers. Can they remain in business just to be the backup supplier for China. We all know as soon as China comes back online US manufacturing companies will go right back to them for the reasons you stated above. Hard to stay in business as plan B.
That's definitely a cause for concern, but there's a clear opportunity there. China doesn't have a great environmental record, so there's some goodwill to be had by being socially responsible. Reduced transportation offers a chance to advertise a lower carbon footprint. Then there's the helping our neighbors angle.

China won't go out of business, but Mexico can just into some of the more critical areas. I'm sure China's place as the leading producer of cheap products is safe though.
 
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enough stories like your and China is done. Companies will start to realize the risk of not having supplier chains close to best customers - us.

There is no doubt we are learning a very important lesson between the "trade wars" and this virus. We MUST have more diversity in our supply chains than we do currently. The naive "model UN" approach that says we have different countries/regions specialize in different things has now been shown to be extremely dangerous.

There is also just as much risk to having your supply chains be too local as there is to having them distant. The bottom line is, we need products and resources to have as many sources and locations for production as is economically viable/possible.

You don't put all your eggs in one basket.
 
Right, there are coronavirus stories on every news site; as there should be. But there is a critical difference between having articles about coronavirus and having the lead headline on a major news site that portends to be nonpartisan read "As coronavirus spreads, Donald Trump's history of untruthfulness is a cause for concern". The former are intended for the purpose of spreading information; the latter's intent, guised as news, is to say to America "Are you sure you want a person like this in charge when our country faces a true crisis?". Hence my quote above: "weaponized for political purposes".

I am not one of those people who believes everything is an affront or a conspiracy, my man, but if you can't grasp the distinction there, I don't know what to tell you.
Sht like this doesn't help. Turn a major crisis into a partisan issue and you've got a recipe for disaster

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html
 
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Sht like this doesn't help. Turn a major crisis into a partisan issue and you've got a recipe for disaster

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/26/opinion/coronavirus-trump.html

Jesus, this sht is ridiculous. Posting here so no one needs to give that tabloid clicks.

Let’s Call It Trumpvirus
If you’re feeling awful, you know who to blame.
Gail Collins
By Gail Collins
Opinion Columnist
  • Feb. 26, 2020


    Alex Azar, the health and human services secretary, and other members of the Trump administration testified before a House panel on Wednesday.Credit...Anna Moneymaker/The New York Times
So, our Coronavirus Czar is going to be … Mike Pence. Feeling more secure?
“I know full well the importance of presidential leadership,” the vice president said as soon as he was introduced in his new role.
Totally qualified. First criteria for every job in this administration is capacity for praising the gloriousness of our commander in chief.
Yeah, when you think of Mike Pence you maybe don’t think about Pandemic Fighter Supreme. But as President Trump pointed out repeatedly, he has already run Indiana.
Well, it probably could have been worse. Having a czar does make you feel there’s somebody in charge. At least Trump didn’t come before the cameras and announce solemnly, “Today I’m asking every American to cross your fingers.”



Our president had to be going crazy over a problem that involves both declining stock prices and germs. This is the guy, after all, who thinks shaking hands is “barbaric,” who is followed around by aides bearing sanitizer. During his press conference he told the story of a fever-ridden supporter who gave him a hug. Do you think it was an apocryphal fantasy? Either way, the idea has been haunting him forever.
Meanwhile, he’s come up with a totally new explanation for the stock market skid. It turns out investors were not frightened so much by the pandemic as the Democratic debate.


“I think the financial markets are very upset when they look at the Democrat candidates standing on that stage making fools out of themselves,” Trump told reporters.

Plus that virus thing is … not necessarily a big deal. What really “shocked” him, Trump said, was his discovery that “the flu in our country kills 25,000 people to 69,000 people a year.”
So the problems are the Democrats and the flu. The answers are Mike Pence and … reminding the public once again that Nancy Pelosi’s district has a big homeless problem.


Earlier in the day Trump argued, via tweet, that despite the expressions of concern by the evil media and “incompetent Do Nothing Democrat comrades,” the government is perfectly prepared to handle the coronavirus. Which he misspelled “caronavirus.” But nobody’s perfect.
The president had been saying everything is totally under control for some time. (“It’s one person coming in from China.”) The whole administration picked up the cry. Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, 82, overcame his habit of dozing off at meetings long enough to tell Fox Business Network that the disease would “accelerate the return of jobs” from overseas.
Trump totally agrees. “What it’s gonna do is keep people home, and they’re going to travel to places we have,” he said.
See? The virus thing is a bonus.
The run-up to the Pence unveiling had not been exactly calming for citizens who wanted to have faith in competent White House oversight. Barack Obama used to have special epidemic-watching groups just in case this kind of crisis developed. One was headed by the highly regarded Rear Adm. Timothy Ziemer, who got sent packing by John Bolton. Another infectious disease expert, Tom Bossert, suddenly vanished from the Department of Homeland Security in 2018, presumably also at the hand of John You-know-who.
If Bolton’s memoir ever makes it into print, do you think it’ll have a chapter called “My War on Pandemic Fighters?” OK, probably not.
Virus Week hasn’t really provided a whole lot of comfort to citizens who wanted to believe the president’s replacements were super high quality.
The nation got its first real look at Chad Wolf, the acting homeland security secretary, who appeared before a Senate subcommittee and admitted he had no idea how the virus was transmitted among humans, exactly how dangerous it was, or … pretty much anything.




When Senator John Kennedy, a Louisiana Republican not known for anti-administration bias, asked whether the country had enough respirators to deal with a coronavirus epidemic, Wolf answered in the affirmative.
“We just heard testimony that we don’t,” Kennedy responded.
“OK,” said Wolf.
To be fair, he’s only been on the job since November. He’s the fifth head of Homeland Security Trump’s had in the last three years. Good thing he has a deputy — or at least an acting deputy — to help. That would be Ken Cuccinelli, who made news this week when he went on Twitter to ask for tips on how to find an online map of coronavirus sites posted by Johns Hopkins University. (“Here’s hoping it goes back up soon.”)
Losing faith in presidential appointees for health protection? Stop being so negative. They’re all vetted by the Presidential Personnel Office, which is now headed by John McEntee, 29, who was previously fired from another White House job because of concerns about a history of gambling problems and tax issues.
McEntee will be getting plenty of help from other stellar appointees, the newest being a 23-year-old college undergraduate. Together they’re going to be cleaning house, getting rid of folks who are insufficiently loyal to the president. Or maybe aren’t qualified or something. Never can tell.
Also part of the new coronavirus response team is Alex Azar, the secretary of health and human services — a veteran cabinet member and experienced former pharmaceutical lobbyist.
At a congressional hearing on Wednesday, Azar was asked if he’d consider using some of the billions of dollars in funds for Trump’s border wall to help combat the current health crisis.
Azar just chuckled. Actually, people, this is probably not a theme we ought to be pursuing. Chances are, if the president is encouraged to mix the subjects of coronavirus and Mexico walls, he’ll suddenly announce that we need a barrier much bigger and thicker and more expensive, so it can stop the flow of immigrant germs.
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Gail Collins is an Op-Ed columnist and a former member of the editorial board, and was the first woman to serve as the Times editorial page editor, from 2001 to 2007.
 
The Olympics should be cancelled. It's just common sense. If I wanted to spread a weaponized super virus around the world, I would release it just before the start of an event that brings people from every corner of the planet to one place for a few weeks...but I'm just a sociopath so what do I know.
 
The threat is not the virus itself, but supply chains shutting down, businesses and services temporarily closing, hospitals being overwhelmed, and the potential for riots/civil society breaking down.

On Monday I heard from a tax attorney friend of mine up in NYC with a lot of wealthy connections. Apparently one of his big clients - a Wall Street finance guy - left town on Sunday for Northern Canada. Took his whole family up and is going to hole up at a remote lake house 100 miles from the nearest town. They even contracted for a separate plane to bring up supplies so that the place is stocked for several months. Anyway, my friend told me he has been warned to be ready to leave the city immediately if necessary, and recommended I be ready to leave my city as well.

Advice for my Cane brothers: Go the grocery store and stock up on dried goods. Rice, beans, canned vegetables and soup. Just in case the virus hits your town and shelves go empty for a few weeks, you won't be totally screwed. Prepare as if you will need to shut in/isolate for 4 to 6 weeks. If nothing happens and this all blows over, you will still be stocked up for a while. No big loss.

Dude, I work on Wall Street ...I’m a consultant/finance guy. Stop this nonsense. Nobody is freaking out to that degree.

All anyone’s gotten were travel restrictions. For example, Our firm restricted all business travel to, from and through South Korea, Italy, China, Hong Kong, Macau and Taiwan due the coronavirus. Anyone that’s visited those countries for business or vacation must stay away from the office for 14 days. That was just sent yesterday
 
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You mentioned Vicks and it flashed me back to childhood. Every time I got running nose my Mom put Vicks nose drops in my nose. Later that night I would end up with flaming fever of 104 or 105. Would end up in clinic for shots., I was like 8 but I eventually figured out I was allergic to the nose drops. Vicks is old school.
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Dog my wife be like put alcohol on your feet then Vicks and put socks on. I just do it cause the **** feels good lmao.
 
This is not a higher strand of flu. This is a designed biological weapon to attack the RAAS & RAS systems of a certain genotype.
This is an evolution of SARS that was triggered by the activation of the 5G network.
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****. This is where "BIG, if true" actually fits the situation.

If this is for real, it's time to sell Moderna and buy, buy, buy just about everything else.
Yeah, man, amazing. It's incredible how that came to be. Great story!
 
It's crippled my supply chain for my business. What usually takes four weeks from the time I order is now at 10 with the expected ship date of the end of March. What ****es me off just as much is that there is no US alternative to purchase from, I have no choice.

You import fortune cookies?
 
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There is no doubt we are learning a very important lesson between the "trade wars" and this virus. We MUST have more diversity in our supply chains than we do currently. The naive "model UN" approach that says we have different countries/regions specialize in different things has now been shown to be extremely dangerous.

There is also just as much risk to having your supply chains be too local as there is to having them distant. The bottom line is, we need products and resources to have as many sources and locations for production as is economically viable/possible.

You don't put all your eggs in one basket.
Well said and logically sound but here is the thing, US consumes about 40% of global out put. There are over 7 billion people in the world. There are, lets say, about 350 million Americans, or about 5% of the world's population. That means that as consumers each American is equal to about 8 "global" people or stated differently,we are the equivalent of 2.8 billion consumers or China and India together. My consumption % might be a little off put you get the idea. This is not meant

Since consumption is the heart of economics we should have first choice of what and how many jobs we want. I know that sounds nutty but think about something. China has been almost shut down for weeks, and the stock markets have just started to notice and people are "speculating" on the GDP. After 911, Americans sat at home for a few days and the world almost shut down. The politicians begged us to go out to dinner and see a movie, or go to the mall and buy something. China is still trying to recover from OUR 2007 - 8 crash, with empty buildings built for make believe work everywhere. American consumers drive the world.

We fell into this and even forester it. For 70 years the world has nursed off America's **** while they drained the milk from us. It started under the guise of stopping the growth of communism. First, rebuild Europe then Japan, then closer to home with NAFTA. As damaging as that was, it was Kissinger/Nixon decision to pay tribute to China to delay confrontation that was the death blow. We did not send our jobs to USSR but for some reason those two idiots and everyone since thought it a great idea.
 
A piece from the NYT editorial department has about as much value in real life as a piece from The Onion, but yes, attempts to turn coronavirus into political gain are despicable.

You can listen to his briefing last night....his #1 priority is the perception of himself and his reelection campaign. He had at least a half dozen bootlickers take the mic to lap him with praises in between his incoherent rambles.
 
We talk about human rights, currency manipulation, intellectual property abuse, and then grant most favored nation trading status.
 
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Dog my wife be like put alcohol on your feet then Vicks and put socks on. I just do it cause the **** feels good lmao.
I'm rolling on the ground my Man. Did you see My Big Fat Greek Wedding --- Windex everything. I'm half Italian so a chuck of parmesan cheese and Italian bread was big cure all. Dad was Southern so a shot IW Harper with Coke was home remedy. Needless to say, as I aged I choose Southern.
 
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