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OT: Nick Saban/Colts

Wow that would be so stupid but I REALLY hope it happens. Saban wins because out-recruits the **** out of everyone. He's not a bad HC by ANY means but he's not going to have the advantage of having severely more talent than the opposing team every game like he does now.
 
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He's already had his taste of the pros and I can't imagine he'll ever return. He's not untouchable in a pro town the way he is in college. He's a dictator. A ruler. He needs to be the king of an entire program, university, and town to thrive.

He is at his best when he's the absolute monarch of a place like Tuscaloosa or Baton Rouge. I don't think he works well when he's just another pro sports figure there to be booed and scrutinized. He's a highly paid deity right now and unless some other school wants to dangle $12MM a season in more in front of his face, he has no reason to leave his throne.
 
One would think Dabo would actually be a favorite to replace Saban if he left. I personally think he'd be an idiot to take that job and leave Clemson and the pay raise he'd get there based off the Bama rumors alone though. Everyone in the media would gush over the Bama opening but you'd really have to be insane to take it now while Saban still has them relevant. It's only ever smart to replace a "legend" once they've started to flounder.
 
Tad Footeball said:
Watching Saban fail again and losing the "...but he didn't have a QB" excuse would be extra sweet. Especially because it'd tarnish his legacy...
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Wasn't it Saban's own fault he didn't have a QB by choosing Culpepper over Brees (God, what might have been) and then trying to blame it on the team doctors?

Also, this thread isn't exactly off topic. If Saban goes, Bama surely takes one of the top available guys off the market, leaving even less for Miami to choose from and, for the BBB guys (which I would be fine with), it increases the odds that Butch lands here.
 
Saban leaving would destroy a power and lower another. Jimbo would go to Bama so FSU would take a big hit and Bama wouldn't be as good without Saban.
 
Make him the highest paid coach, He gets full control and a franchise QB I think Saban would go. What else does he have to prove in colege?
 
I'm sure if Saban goes to Indy, and Jimbo gets the Bama job, our, friend Marlins Man will fly a banner in support of Golden Al
 
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Saban is a megalomaniac. He can dominate and control kids in college. That doesn't fly in the pros. In college, he starts the year with more talent than almost any other team. He doesn't lose players to Auburn in free agency. He doesn't have to draft kids. He can cheat like a mother*cker without any real oversight.
 
Tad Footeball said:
One would think Dabo would actually be a favorite to replace Saban if he left. I personally think he'd be an idiot to take that job and leave Clemson and the pay raise he'd get there based off the Bama rumors alone though. Everyone in the media would gush over the Bama opening but you'd really have to be insane to take it now while Saban still has them relevant. It's only ever smart to replace a "legend" once they've started to flounder.
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This guy gets it ^^^^. Alabama would go after hometown hero Dabo.
 
Jack71 said:
Tad Footeball said:
Watching Saban fail again and losing the "...but he didn't have a QB" excuse would be extra sweet. Especially because it'd tarnish his legacy...
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Wasn't it Saban's own fault he didn't have a QB by choosing Culpepper over Brees (God, what might have been) and then trying to blame it on the team doctors?

Also, this thread isn't exactly off topic. If Saban goes, Bama surely takes one of the top available guys off the market, leaving even less for Miami to choose from and, for the BBB guys (which I would be fine with), it increases the odds that Butch lands here.
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Yeah, that was some revisionist history from Saban and the Dolphins front office at the time. That wasn't a decision made BY their medical staff (interesting that Danny Kanell's dad was the team doctor then) but just one that the Dolphins and Saban were sissies over because they got scared that their doctors didn't completely endorse Dr. James Andrews optimism over a surgery he performed on Brees. It wasn't like they had veto power over the Dolphins signing Brees though like Saban portrays.

I think if Saban does bolt to Indy that we'd have made a hire well prior so that timeframe along with some other things should have no influence on our search.
 
Saban has said it himself, he is not the best coach he is the best recruiter.

That said I think there is a high probability he gives it one more try.
 
Gsugradcanefan said:
DaU83 said:
Don't think saban goes. He's got a plum job at bama
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He really has it made at Bama. He's getting $6M/year, plus the $3M+ mansion where he lives in Tuscaloosa is paid for by the Bama boosters. I don't think he goes back to the NFL. He's too much of a control freak, it's easier to control 18-22 year old kids and get them to do what you want when they're trying to get to the NFL versus a bunch of guys who have already made it and are making more money than you. Besides, giving a coach GM powers doesn't usually work out the way teams hope. Just look at Chip Kelly in Philly right now.
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All of this is true.

But some people have that itch. Not sure if Saban does, but some do. Need to be the best...at every level.

Saban might be the type of guy that looks at, let's say Pete Carrol, and says f*uck that I'm better than him, and needs to go prove it. Gotta have that NFL success and a Super Bowl win.
 
Tad Footeball said:
Watching Saban fail again and losing the "...but he didn't have a QB" excuse would be extra sweet. Especially because it'd tarnish his legacy as he either ages out of coaching or has to scramble back to an opening in the $EC as he pushes 70 yrs old. It'd also be an amazing ****show to watch him go down in flames this time with a maniac owner like Irsay publicly questioning him or creating controversy. Lil Nicky has never really had anybody antagonize him let alone a guy with more power. Huizenga almost kissed his a$$ all the way to Tuscaloosa so this wouldn't be the same type of deal.
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Yea because we totally laugh at Jimmy Johnson's coaching career because of his stint with the dolphins
 
Astcloud11 said:
Tad Footeball said:
Watching Saban fail again and losing the "...but he didn't have a QB" excuse would be extra sweet. Especially because it'd tarnish his legacy as he either ages out of coaching or has to scramble back to an opening in the $EC as he pushes 70 yrs old. It'd also be an amazing ****show to watch him go down in flames this time with a maniac owner like Irsay publicly questioning him or creating controversy. Lil Nicky has never really had anybody antagonize him let alone a guy with more power. Huizenga almost kissed his a$$ all the way to Tuscaloosa so this wouldn't be the same type of deal.
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Yea because we totally laugh at Jimmy Johnson's coaching career because of his stint with the dolphins
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Jimmy's little run in Dallas kind of negates your sarcasm. You get an exemption when you win at every level you coach. Not to mention Jimmy had to build Dallas. Lil Nicky would essentially be running to Andrew Luck in an attempt to cement the same type of legacy that is more than just college based.
 
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dycane said:
I don't understand. Saban is too old.
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He's too old to re-build a franchise. But he's not too old to take over a division winning team, with a young franchise QB.

There's a difference between keeping or getting the train on track, and actually building the track.

NFL turnarounds can be instant! Just look at San Francisco when they hired Harbaugh ...

But I also notice they are not willing to throw everything at Butch. Tell me again how Butch is better than Saban ...
 
Saban doesn't really translate well to the modern nfl. Any high powered spread offense destroys his defense. Imagine what the NFL teams could do to his defense .

Also he is more of a run type guy. His passing game has become pretty good at Bama merely because of the massive talent advantage he has.. And even then his passing game is underwhelming considering the talent advantage he has.
 
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