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I love the moves, Wilkins and Rosen in rd 1 and 2 alone is great. Not to mention all the picks we have picked up. They have 13-14 picks next year (the 5th in the Rosen confusion) is insane.
 
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Deionte Johnson is going to be a very good football player. Going to the Steelers? I'd be shocked if he's not eventually a starter there.

He tore Miami up.
 
Ecush said:
Who didn’t?
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No one, he did have a good game vs Miami the last 2 years though
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LuCane said:
It sounds like rationalization to waste potential draft capital. "Ah, who cares, we have a lot of picks next year anyway." The question is simple: why not press Arizona? They were stuck. Why give them #62 and a 5th next year instead of #78? Because you feared losing out on Rosen to whom? Whatever. It's done. It's not as deathly as having to rationalize the terrible trade for #48 people were pushing earlier today.
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The only problem I have with this line of thinking is that we don't know who else was pressing. Maybe NE, who picked right after, or LAC were going to give up their picks for Rosen. We just dont know. And the 2020 5th makes me believe if we would have offered the 3rd instead they'd probably want a 2020 4th. That's probably where negotiations got murky.
 
CanesFan93 said:
The only problem I have with this line of thinking is that we don't know who else was pressing. Maybe NE, who picked right after, or LAC were going to give up their picks for Rosen. We just dont know. And the 2020 5th makes me believe if we would have offered the 3rd instead they'd probably want a 2020 4th. That's probably where negotiations got murky.
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It's a fair argument, for sure. The thing is, as I said earlier in the thread, I was fine with the risk of losing him. I mentioned how I didn't see NE, who values these Top 90 picks and tries to stack them, would use it on a sulking backup QB. Same for LAC, where Rosen would have to sit, ***** and moan for 1-2 years. Arizona was in a really rough spot. The part that makes it palatable is *at least* moving somewhat down and picking up a 2nd rounder next year.
 
LuCane said:
It's a fair argument, for sure. The thing is, as I said earlier in the thread, I was fine with the risk of losing him. I mentioned how I didn't see NE, who values these Top 90 picks and tries to stack them, would use it on a sulking backup QB. Same for LAC, where Rosen would have to sit, ***** and moan for 1-2 years. Arizona was in a really rough spot. The part that makes it palatable is *at least* moving somewhat down and picking up a 2nd rounder next year.
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New HC Flores is from NE. I hate to say it, but all these moves are similar to what Belichek does - load up on later round picks to find as much value as possible.
 
LuCane said:
It's a fair argument, for sure. The thing is, as I said earlier in the thread, I was fine with the risk of losing him. I mentioned how I didn't see NE, who values these Top 90 picks and tries to stack them, would use it on a sulking backup QB. Same for LAC, where Rosen would have to sit, ***** and moan for 1-2 years. Arizona was in a really rough spot. The part that makes it palatable is *at least* moving somewhat down and picking up a 2nd rounder next year.
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They may have been in a tough spot but from a logistics standpoint the dolphins bullied Arizona. They were wanting a 48th overall picked, dolphins parlayed that into more picks most notably a 2020 second rounder and still got their guy while trading a late 2nd round pick .


It don’t get no better than this from a contractual standpoint of getting a guy that went top ten the year before and only have to owe him that much the next 3 years
 
LuCane said:
It's a fair argument, for sure. The thing is, as I said earlier in the thread, I was fine with the risk of losing him. I mentioned how I didn't see NE, who values these Top 90 picks and tries to stack them, would use it on a sulking backup QB. Same for LAC, where Rosen would have to sit, ***** and moan for 1-2 years. Arizona was in a really rough spot. The part that makes it palatable is *at least* moving somewhat down and picking up a 2nd rounder next year.
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And that's all that matters in my opinion. I get having issues with the approach, as do I, but as you said--it's done.

If Grier was doing this year in and year out then I'm right there with you. This is HIS first big risk. Let's see how it plays out.
 
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Pretty **** Embarrassing , our guys just aren’t viewed well for the nfl lately for whatever reason. Richt did them in with that sh*tty offense last year which I’m sure hurt the perception of the talent on the team regardless of what they did in terms of defense
 
brock said:
They may have been in a tough spot but from a logistics standpoint the dolphins bullied Arizona. They were wanting a 48th overall picked, dolphins parlayed that into more picks most notably a 2020 second rounder and still got their guy while trading a late 2nd round pick .


It don’t get no better than this from a contractual standpoint of getting a guy that went top ten the year before and only have to owe him that much the next 3 years
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You're saying the Dolphins bullied Arizona because Arizona wanted the 48th pick? Ha. They could want whatever they want. No team was going to pay that price and I think only the Dolphins would pay anything worthwhile. Arizona was cornered. It's done. Time to move on and see what value we can extract going forward.
 
Instead of trading them the 48 pick, we traded down, picked up a second next year and traded the 62nd pick. So we ended up trading a 5th for Rosen. How does the front office suck again?
 
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