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I stopped following the Marlins about 5 years ago when I realized it was never going to get any better. The latest moves proved that.

Boy oh boy though did LeBatard just go in on Manfred. Not sure if anyone else watched that but if you didn't I highly recommend watching. It was so awkward but also so awesome. I know a lot of people hate LeBatard but it was pretty awesome to see him hold nothing back against the MLB Commissioner.

No link yet since it literally just aired but I'll try to post when they post it.
 
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It was great - make Manfred sweat.

MLB is so rigged and lopsided, it's ridiculous. To allow a group of investors, with a front man like Jeter buy a team for the price they did after the franchise had a new stadium built and then immediately sell all the assets is criminal. This group obviously has no money and is not willing to invest. It's a money grab. They traded their assets for nothing.....stale peanuts and a bag sunflower seeds. And worst of all, Jeter HELPED his former franchise in the process. Even if it wasn't shady, it's a bad look.
 
I'm done putting up with the fire sales, I just can't do it anymore. Time to find a new baseball team to root for!
 
He's a ****, guy said he didn't know. Even if he did who gives a ****? Whoever the new owner was going to bw would be slahing payroll and starting new.

Lebatard can go suck a **** with his anti Miami bull**** spewed this year, hope him and Shapiro end up in the same **** hole
 
Gi0logy said:
I stopped following the Marlins about 5 years ago when I realized it was never going to get any better. The latest moves proved that.

Boy oh boy though did LeBatard just go in on Manfred. Not sure if anyone else watched that but if you didn't I highly recommend watching. It was so awkward but also so awesome. I know a lot of people hate LeBatard but it was pretty awesome to see him hold nothing back against the MLB Commissioner.

No link yet since it literally just aired but I'll try to post when they post it.
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Pass.
Do let us know if/when that Rat and his Rat Dad both die on the air during a show.
I'll set the DVR up for that one.
 
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I thought the interview was very poorly done. You could tell that Lebatard had not done his research and was going with the "emotional" approach to the questions. He had a chance to really show the world the gimmick of MLB ownership especially for teams that are run purely for profit without the need to perform on the field as the Marlins have proven for years.

He EASILY could have cornered Manfred on the stadium tax dollars issue (along with fake revenue generation it was supposed to bring) and brought up the lagging ticket sales + game attendance as a direct correlation to "with the current TV deal, owners down even have to pretend to care about attendance + performance".

Instead he went with the "I'm from Miami this is how WE feel" strategy which just sounded idiotic. Wasted opportunity if you ask me.
 
Jeter needs to make the playoffs and keep the team together. That is the only way to get the fanbase back.

If he does that, baseball in Miami will be fine. Until then, there will be no interest. But there wasn't interest anyway.
 
DMoney said:
Jeter needs to make the playoffs and keep the team together. That is the only way to get the fanbase back.

If he does that, baseball in Miami will be fine. Until then, there will be no interest. But there wasn't interest anyway.
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This. I keep telling Marlins fans this when they complain about the new ownership. Why pay Stanton 30 million a year to play in front of an empty stadium every night? Of course people will show up if they start winning but the team had a 140 million+ payroll and still sucked. They have nobody in their farm system and they can't afford to drop another 30 40 million on free agents (especially when they make very little of tickets and TV) just to become semi competetive again. The whole organization was a huge dumpster fire and needed a complete overhaul. That's why they fired everybody and hit reset. I don't know if the new owners will be able to do it right this time but the fans that are expecting them to sink hundreds of millions more into a team that A) draws no fans and B) they just paid a billion + for live in fantasy world.
 
Hemsleysalmons said:
Since when did the Marlins became a football team? I thought forum was for fb related topics.
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OT means Off Topic. They did build that POS of a ballpark on sacred land. Just happy to see someone giving that league some sh*t even if it is LeBatard.

Feel free to not read if you're not interested.
 
Fire sale needed to happen. If the fans don't give the team revenue to sustain a contract of Stanton's size, then the owners shouldn't be expected dish out their own money to float the payroll. The franchise is a business, simple as that. Don't like it? Go to more games -- give them a reason and support to keep Stanton.
 
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Gi0logy said:
Hemsleysalmons said:
Since when did the Marlins became a football team? I thought forum was for fb related topics.
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OT means Off Topic. They did build that POS of a ballpark on sacred land. Just happy to see someone giving that league some sh*t even if it is LeBatard.

Feel free to not read if you're not interested.
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I hate the Marlins more than some rival teams after the demolished the OB for them.
 
righty said:
Fire sale needed to happen. If the fans don't give the team revenue to sustain a contract of Stanton's size, then the owners shouldn't be expected dish out their own money to float the payroll. The franchise is a business, simple as that. Don't like it? Go to more games -- give them a reason and support to keep Stanton.
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The anger against Jeter is bizarre. He wasn't the owner who screwed the taxpayers (the father of our beloved DC was partly responsible for that). The Marlins shelled out a huge contract for Stanton, looked like things were trending up. But then the star pitcher decided to ride the white lightning before getting behind the wheel of a speedboat, at night, with no running lights. So the plan fell apart. Team scuffled and fans stopped showing up for games. A new owner could either 1) keep adding high priced players to a team with no farm system and massively increase payroll to try to be competitive (and pray that fans show up if team doesn't win immediately, if they don't team will be hemorrhaging money) or 2) blow up the team and start over. Did the Marlins get screwed in the Stanton trade? Looks like it but let's check back in 5 years. The point of the trade was a salary dump. Would be nice to get quality players in return, but Jeter didn't give Stanton that no trade clause and the biggest MLB salary ever. Only a handful of teams could take on Stantons contract, and even then ultimately Stanton had a veto over the location (which is why he didn't get traded to st Louis, which was supposedly offering better prospects). Anybody with a scintilla of business sense would have done exactly what Jeter has done.
 
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Everyone knew the fire sale was going to happen. The problem is the lack of basic PR coming from Jeter and the rest of the new ownership.

On day one, come out and say you plan on a total rebuild. Explain why it needs to be done and more importantly, explain why you won't blow up what you've created after the new players do develop. Figure out a way to keep the goodwill ambassadors (Conine, McKeon, and Dawson) around instead of ****canning them within the first week of ownership. Actually attend the baseball winter meetings instead of going to a Monday night Dolphins game.
 
TimeB0mb said:
righty said:
Fire sale needed to happen. If the fans don't give the team revenue to sustain a contract of Stanton's size, then the owners shouldn't be expected dish out their own money to float the payroll. The franchise is a business, simple as that. Don't like it? Go to more games -- give them a reason and support to keep Stanton.
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The anger against Jeter is bizarre. He wasn't the owner who screwed the taxpayers (the father of our beloved DC was partly responsible for that). The Marlins shelled out a huge contract for Stanton, looked like things were trending up. But then the star pitcher decided to ride the white lightning before getting behind the wheel of a speedboat, at night, with no running lights. So the plan fell apart. Team scuffled and fans stopped showing up for games. A new owner could either 1) keep adding high priced players to a team with no farm system and massively increase payroll to try to be competitive (and pray that fans show up if team doesn't win immediately, if they don't team will be hemorrhaging money) or 2) blow up the team and start over. Did the Marlins get screwed in the Stanton trade? Looks like it but let's check back in 5 years. The point of the trade was a salary dump. Would be nice to get quality players in return, but Jeter didn't give Stanton that no trade clause and the biggest MLB salary ever. Only a handful of teams could take on Stantons contract, and even then ultimately Stanton had a veto over the location (which is why he didn't get traded to st Louis, which was supposedly offering better prospects). Anybody with a scintilla of business sense would have done exactly what Jeter has done.
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All of this.
 
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