OT: LBJ

[KevinCaneFace]

Gs is the must over rated team ever. They are just more talented than everyone else.If you have comparable talent and if you pressure them they'll crumble. A bunch of frontrunners. Lbj,boogie,and leonard would punish them

How are you the most “over rated team” and the most “talented team” at the same time?

 

[Zbrod95]

Gs is the must over rated team ever. They are just more talented than everyone else.If you have comparable talent and if you pressure them they'll crumble. A bunch of frontrunners. Lbj,boogie,and leonard would punish them

Plllllleeeeeeeaaaaaassssseeeeeee....You will never be able to duplicate that team again if you given a billion different attempts.

 

[Gatorhater]

Lyndon Johnson has been dead a long time. He sucked when he was alive. What is LA going to do with him now?

 

[GirthQuake]

Yeah take no consideration that during that 1-9 record Jordan played two Celtics teams that’s larry bird said was the best he ever seen. Also take no consideration that the playoffs were only five game series.

But most of all, take no consideration that the next year when Jordan won the playoff series, pippin was a bench player that averaged 7 points. But sure that’s worse than Lebron not making the playoffs his first two years

Ok it’s not like lebron was 18/19 his first two season also would take Jordan’s team the first two over lebron

You’re making it sound like the east was as bad as it was today as the early 2000s

But the titles is a strong argument I just think if you look at lebrons body of work as a whole you can’t dismiss it

 

[supersaiyanshel]

GS would beat the ‘93 bulls in 6...I don’t think you guys realize is one of the best built team, if not the best, in the history of basketball. They literally have 4 future hall of famers on the court at one time and two of them will retire 2 of the best players of all time...steph and KD will easily be on almost everybody’s top 15 list

They needed 7 games to beat Houston, and I'm not sure they beat them at all if CP3 doesn't get injured. They are an amazing team, but I'm they aren't top 10 all time, even with KD (who is my favorite player). I don't even think Golden State beats Big 3 era Heat.

As to the topic at hand, I don't think Kawhi is worth it if you have to part with any 2 of Kuzma, Randle, or Ingram, and San Antonio is demanding a King's ransom (no pun intended) and I doubt they want Lonzo.

 

[GirthQuake]

Second point. HIs floor plumbers were underratedView attachment 60994View attachment 60994View attachment 60994

That’s a joke right ? now compare their playoff stats and bench depth

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Ok it’s not like lebron was 18/19 his first two season also would take Jordan’s team the first two over lebron

You’re making it sound like the east was as bad as it was today as the early 2000s

But the titles is a strong argument I just think if you look at lebrons body of work as a whole you can’t dismiss it

Sure, but are we comparing MJ and Lebron because nobody wants to do that. Lebron only leads in assists and rebounds and that’s because he plays out of position while MJ played his position and let the role players around him be role players. Scoring and defense MJ dominates.

Let’s move on. Lebron limits superstars so GS is still top dog.

 

[GirthQuake]

Game over javale and lance

 

[CaneSince4Ever]

You mean the bull he was left with after he got the good players traded away?

LOL...who?

Cleveland had 5 lottery picks after He left in 10', and the only player they have to show for it now?...Tristan...Fckin'...Thompson...L...M...A...O!

Now I know the draft's not an exact science, but if it was, Lebron could've conceivably been walking into a team with Leonard & The Greek Freak in 14'.

Cleveland didn't deserve Lebron.

 

[supersaiyanshel]

It’s because he literally takes control...he dipped from Miami because Riley and Spo made it clear that they were in control numerous times and he didn’t like it, went to Cleveland and got his way...lost all but one final, and now he’s going to LA...wonder if Magic will take Pat’s approach to him or the numerous Cavalier GM’s.

Magic will give him more of a leash than Riley did. We can't forget that Magic himself had a bit of Lebron in him back in the day when he forced the Lakers to fire their coach AFTER THEY WON THE CHAMPIONSHIP! Straight savage.

 

[Zbrod95]

Ok it’s not like lebron was 18/19 his first two season also would take Jordan’s team the first two over lebron

You’re making it sound like the east was as bad as it was today as the early 2000s

But the titles is a strong argument I just think if you look at lebrons body of work as a whole you can’t dismiss it

What? The early 2000’s were the pistons and the Nets then it turned into the Heat and the Celtics after that.

When Kobe was in the West, Pop/Tim we’re in their primes with the Spurs, Dallas was good, The Kings were good, the timberwolves were good, and the trailblazers were good...all these teams were 50 game winners.

 

[KevinCaneFace]

That’s a joke right ? now compare their playoff stats and bench depth

Why? Do you think players like Kerr were special? Kerr averaged 7 points a game. Rodman only led in rebounds. Pippin was great on defense but Kevin Love has better carreer numbers. The difference between LBJ and MJ is that MJ didn’t play ever position which allowed the players around him to be great at what they do best. But if you’d rather give Lebron credit for running point instead of the point guard be my guest.

 

[Sigma_Cane_7]

To me this move isn’t about rings. It’s about establishing his empire post his basketball career. There’s only a few cities that can bring you endless money outside of the sport he plays. New York, Miami, LA. To me this was a power move for the future.

 

[GirthQuake]

LOL...who?

Cleveland had 5 lottery picks after He left in 10', and the only player they have to show for it now?...Tristan...Fckin'...Thompson...L...M...A...O!

Now I know the draft's not an exact science, but if it was, Lebron could've realistically walking into a team with Leonard & The Greek Freak in 14'.

Cleveland didn't deserve Lebron.

For real though such a shame Cleveland should’ve put a better team around him and had those lotto picks too ... but the arguement is well “gs drafted their players it’s Lebrons fault for Cleveland not putting a better team around him”

 

[GirthQuake]

Why? Do you think players like Kerr were special? Kerr averaged 7 points a game. Rodman only led in rebounds. Pippin was great on defense but Kevin Love has better carreer numbers. The difference between LBJ and MJ is that MJ didn’t play ever position which allowed the players around him to be great at what they do best. But if you’d rather give Lebron credit for running point instead of the point guard be my guest.

Bro you still posted season stats the playoff stats tell a whole other story and yes I’d take Any of Jordan’s teams over jr Smith George hill Kevin love and Tristan Thompson

 

[KevinCaneFace]

Bro you still posted season stats the playoff stats tell a whole other story and yes I’d take Any of Jordan’s teams over jr Smith George hill Kevin love and Tristan Thompson

Two of those players Lebron got huge contracts. Kevin Love gets the same treatment as Wade and Bosh. It’s funny how all star players who play with Lebron get trashed by his fans. It’s just a coincidence how their numbers go down when playing with Lebron, right?

 

[Zbrod95]

They needed 7 games to beat Houston, and I'm not sure they beat them at all if CP3 doesn't get injured. They are an amazing team, but I'm they aren't top 10 all time, even with KD (who is my favorite player). I don't even think Golden State beats Big 3 era Heat.

As to the topic at hand, I don't think Kawhi is worth it if you have to part with any 2 of Kuzma, Randle, or Ingram, and San Antonio is demanding a King's ransom (no pun intended) and I doubt they want Lonzo.

They needed 7 to beat Houston because they lack a true big man...much like the Miami Heat championship team did(other than 2006).

LOL...who?

Cleveland had 5 lottery picks after He left in 10', and the only player they have to show for it now?...Tristan...Fckin'...Thompson...L...M...A...O!

Now I know the draft's not an exact science, but if it was, Lebron could've conceivably been walking into a team with Leonard & The Greek Freak in 14'.

Cleveland didn't deserve Lebron.

maybe he shouldn’t have traded away Andrew Wiggins for an injury proned Kevin Love and maybe he shouldn’t have traded Dion Waiters for bum *** JR Smith and Iman Shumpert. Maybe he should’ve been more courteous to Kyrie...

 

[Tad Footeball]

 

[GirthQuake]

Two of those players Lebron got huge contracts. Kevin Love gets the same treatment as Wade and Bosh. It’s funny how all star players who play with Lebron get trashed by his fans. It’s just a coincidence how their numbers go down when playing with Lebron, right?

Ok well now you’re bouncing to front office when the original argument was the teams around lebron

you’re going to tell me with a straight face what he had this past season was on par with what he had with the heat and Michael Jordan’s Bulls ?

 

[Zbrod95]

Ok well now you’re bouncing to front office when the original argument was the teams around lebron

you’re going to tell me with a straight face what he had this past season was on par with what he had with the heat and Michael Jordan’s Bulls ?

No but those two teams have legitimate coaches while Cleveland had controllable pawns...big ******* difference. I knew how bad it was when Tyronn Lue literally admitted he openly asks Lebron on coaching advice..imagine Erik Spolestra and Phil Jackson doing that with D-Wade and Kobe. Imagine Pop doing that with Tim Duncan.