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E1k said:
You say they don’t have you in a chokehold but repeat the same points that people who are in a chokehold say

They always say the prioritize flexibility, but have over paid players multiple times. Have refused to got rid of players when their value was at its highest. Have mismanaged assets for years, hindering our ability to improve and even when they do have the assets they refuse to trade it when it’s obviously necessary.

Yes jimmy asked for kyle lowry, kyle lowry led us to a #1 seed and top5 in the league when he got here. Bam/herro/jimmy all missed time with injuries that year and he kept us as the 1 seed. The best record, the beat offense,the best defense was with kyle lowry here.

We made it to game7 of the ECF and made a finals run where he was a very important factor in both runs. How is that move used as a talking point against improving a roster that close to the championship? It was started by Ethan Skolnick and his network, well known water carriers for the heat front office, he did it to take blame off the front office like he always does and now fans repeat it as if it makes sense

You say we shouldn’t make moves just to make moves and wait for guys to develop, literally one of that main points of someone thats brainwashed by this new heat culture wave.

Why would a team who were the 1seed got to the ECF GAME 7 say hey lets not make any moves to try for a ring, lets do NOTHING B2B OFF SEASONS and develop our own guys..lmfao like bro cmon asking to help a contender is people being spoiled??? Look where that **** has us now, 37 wins and 3 play in appearances in a row

But that’s what the Heat specialize in doing now, they have zero direction. They rather die drinking their own koolaid rather than do everything they can for a championship like they use to..

Remember when we went to the ecf in 05 with shaq and dwade who were both better than jimmy, dwade got hurt vs the pistons when we were about to close the series..Did they say its ok let’s just fo nothing and develop the guys we have and try again next year..Nope they flipped the entire roster and pat came to coach. Thats how much we wanted championships.. All im asking for is that same urgency, not this new fake heat culture **** where we branding it, putting it on the court like goofys.

And me right now? I don’t want anyone i want them to pick a direction. Me personally i don’t ever see herro or bam as the #1 guys for a championship team. I think bam can be paired with a #1 guy tho, but how are they gonna get that guy by being middle of the pack?

They should be selling high on players to get assets then swing for superstars like we used to do. Free agency is dead so now we have to have assets to be prepared when a player asks out.

I want championships to be the main objective again for the heat again
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So basically what i said...i dont know what i want or what we can get but just get me something.

You clearly skipped over Tyler Herro n spoke on Bam. So why dont just say come off of Herro?. I wouldnt be against that he raised his stock. Wouldnt be bad to sell there. (Though its pat riley and a uk player)

They shot for ppl and got turned down. The same guy we are in top 3 now they wanted back then to pair with jimmy n he went with suns.

You also left of a big thing of them being prepared for when a player ask out......because we had one named Damian Lillard who did...and specifically asked for the Heat...and had an organization thumb their nose n Wisconsin Xavier Lucas that idea because they have been fleeced or had a beef with him n tried to possibly get Bam out of that deal.

Im good with getting : Durant, Trey Murphy, or Kuminga

If its Durant im not giving up the entire future because of his age. But guys like Jovic, the pick, Wiggins, Duncan, Jaiquez can skiddadle. And if Ware yea him to. (though i like him as a young player)

I know of Ethan Skolnik but i watch other heat blogs on youtube n follow along.

I think im in the middle of what you are.. Your done with the Heat Culture stuff...im still on it but i think their need to be tweeks to allow for these younger stars to want to be more enticed toc ome here. These soft *** dudes arent signing up for 2 hour in szn practices and all the body fat weigh in stuff that we are doing. They arent use to hard coaching either..so u also have that.

I think for sure after this last tumultuous 2 years there should be some tweeking going on to what we have n how we do it. I agree there.
 
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E1k said:
Probably gonna be a spur..Any team that is asking 2025 KD to be their best player isn’t serious about winning. He needs to be the #2 guy, if i were him id be trying to get to Denver but he wants his last big contract in a no tax state(Texas with spurs or rockets, or heat) which is understandable
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KD may be trying to buy a wnba team to put in texas.

Its like a san antonio - miami battle currently.

I call big cap on the knicks being a preferred destination for him lol. They always try to throw them into something of note that never comes to fruition.
 
gogeta4 said:
So basically what i said...i dont know what i want or what we can get but just get me something.

You clearly skipped over Tyler Herro n spoke on Bam. So why dont just say come off of Herro?. I wouldnt be against that he raised his stock. Wouldnt be bad to sell there. (Though its pat riley and a uk player)

They shot for ppl and got turned down. The same guy we are in top 3 now they wanted back then to pair with jimmy n he went with suns.

You also left of a big thing of them being prepared for when a player ask out......because we had one named Damian Lillard who did...and specifically asked for the Heat...and had an organization thumb their nose n Wisconsin Xavier Lucas that idea because they have been fleeced or had a beef with him n tried to possibly get Bam out of that deal.

Im good with getting : Durant, Trey Murphy, or Kuminga

If its Durant im not giving up the entire future because of his age. But guys like Jovic, the pick, Wiggins, Duncan, Jaiquez can skiddadle. And if Ware yea him to. (though i like him as a young player)

I know of Ethan Skolnik but i watch other heat blogs on youtube n follow along.

I think im in the middle of what you are.. Your done with the Heat Culture stuff...im still on it but i think their need to be tweeks to allow for these younger stars to want to be more enticed toc ome here. These soft *** dudes arent signing up for 2 hour in szn practices and all the body fat weigh in stuff that we are doing. They arent use to hard coaching either..so u also have that.

I think for sure after this last tumultuous 2 years there should be some tweeking going on to what we have n how we do it. I agree there.
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If it were me i would sell high on tyler while his contract is manageable and seriously entertain highest bidders for bam unless you can flip what u get for tyler for a real star that matches bam timeline idk who tho alot of those guys locked in

I hate the middle of the pack philosophy they have, so it’s almost pointless for me to say they should blow it up because it’s not even a possibility they never will

Yea they were interested in players but i wouldn’t even call it them actually shooting for them. They are extremely stubborn with what they think a player is valued at and will not budge even the benefit is a championship for us

Hence the Dame situation, literally 99% of the time if a player asks out and says trade me to this specific place they always get their way..The only exception is the heat because they try to only do the deal on their terms. They will rather not do anything if it’s not on their terms

They offered more for jrue holiday than they did for dame. Riley also admitted they didn’t offer all that they could. Thats not a team that is serious about winning a championship, they prioritized herro over all of that and now we winning 37 games and losing home playoff games by 55. So i dont blame the blazers for it not happening, the heat tried to play hard ball for 3 months and we had way more to lose than them

That’s just unrealistic in sports, sometimes you will have to over pay and in our situation the reward was literally almost a guaranteed championship. Bam jimmy dame was gonna be the best trio in the league.

And im still a heat culture guy but i think im still brainwashed by what it used to be, not whatever this new **** is. Our franchise acquired SHAQ & LEBRON, those are two of the greatest and biggest superstars ever..Now they overrate and over pay guys just because they buy into the culture?

Riley use to be all about superstars, this guy coached magic/kareem ewing shaq dwade Zo got guys like bron bosh jimmy here and now we might pay herro 50m? We refuse to trade young projects for stars? We champion this undrafted do more with less ****? Like wtf is this new **** man?..Apart of me feels like its nick arison and spo running the show now, i dont want to think of riley like how i think of this lmao that would hurt

But all n all we just have to pray a star falls in our lap similar to how jimmy did or maybe adam simon finds a star in the draft. If not then idk how we get back to championship level operating like this in this new era if free agency is what it is now

U got me typing essays man lol im still not over us not finishing the job in the jimmy era lol
 


@gogeta4 @DMoney

Yall dodged a bullet.

Watch what happens to Houston now that they KD.

A young promising team in the West that finished the regular season as a 2 seed.

Willing to bet money they won't be higher than 5 seed next season.
 
E1k said:
If it were me i would sell high on tyler while his contract is manageable and seriously entertain highest bidders for bam unless you can flip what u get for tyler for a real star that matches bam timeline idk who tho alot of those guys locked in

I hate the middle of the pack philosophy they have, so it’s almost pointless for me to say they should blow it up because it’s not even a possibility they never will

Yea they were interested in players but i wouldn’t even call it them actually shooting for them. They are extremely stubborn with what they think a player is valued at and will not budge even the benefit is a championship for us

Hence the Dame situation, literally 99% of the time if a player asks out and says trade me to this specific place they always get their way..The only exception is the heat because they try to only do the deal on their terms. They will rather not do anything if it’s not on their terms

They offered more for jrue holiday than they did for dame. Riley also admitted they didn’t offer all that they could. Thats not a team that is serious about winning a championship, they prioritized herro over all of that and now we winning 37 games and losing home playoff games by 55. So i dont blame the blazers for it not happening, the heat tried to play hard ball for 3 months and we had way more to lose than them

That’s just unrealistic in sports, sometimes you will have to over pay and in our situation the reward was literally almost a guaranteed championship. Bam jimmy dame was gonna be the best trio in the league.

And im still a heat culture guy but i think im still brainwashed by what it used to be, not whatever this new **** is. Our franchise acquired SHAQ & LEBRON, those are two of the greatest and biggest superstars ever..Now they overrate and over pay guys just because they buy into the culture?

Riley use to be all about superstars, this guy coached magic/kareem ewing shaq dwade Zo got guys like bron bosh jimmy here and now we might pay herro 50m? We refuse to trade young projects for stars? We champion this undrafted do more with less ****? Like wtf is this new **** man?..Apart of me feels like its nick arison and spo running the show now, i dont want to think of riley like how i think of this lmao that would hurt

But all n all we just have to pray a star falls in our lap similar to how jimmy did or maybe adam simon finds a star in the draft. If not then idk how we get back to championship level operating like this in this new era if free agency is what it is now

U got me typing essays man lol im still not over us not finishing the job in the jimmy era lol
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How many playoff series has Milwaukee won since the Dame trade?
 
mosthated305 said:
How many playoff series has Milwaukee won since the Dame trade?
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Oh the typical dumb heat culture narrative when we miss on a target. How many rings did LeBron win before here? How many series did Zo win before here? How many series did jimmy win before here? How many series did bosh win before here?

How many series did wade win when he left here?

Should we just not get great players because of what they did before or after we acquired them or tried to acquire them? Dame heavily improved Milwaukee offense which is exactly what we needed and still need now, injuries and a terrible roster killed off any chance they had at a run. We had been to the finals and needed one last piece to win it. So whatever point you’re making is stupid and irrelevant
 
Kuminga trade makes sense. Clean trade for Wiggins.

We are a team of European guards. We need someone with strength and athleticism who can put pressure the basket. Kuminga wants to put up shots and we have shots to give.

I think we should’ve closed on Durant but this path will make us a young, energetic team.
 
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Did the Heat make any major moves this offseason?

Did they sign a big time Free Agent, or make a big trade for anybody?
 
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