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OT: Jarvis Landry to the Browns

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Just like giving away Ajaii last year for 4th. He will have a nice Super Bowl ring to show for it.
 
4th and 7th rd picks.

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Was thinking a 2 and a 3 minimum for him. The Browns aint hurting for draft picks.

But 4 and 7? Wow.
 
Karlnolits26 said:
My friend is a huge Browns fan and very high on Duke Johnson! They need to get him more touches
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I read that as well on cleveland info when the cut crowell, dukes numbers were substantially better than crowell. Duke is a player and can do some good things under the right situation.
 
Viewing the trade in a vacuum, it's awful. There simply is no way that Jarvis Landry is not worth more than a 4th round pick this year (and a late 4th, I should add) and a 7th round pick next year. But that's myopic.

He was a free agent and could have left for nothing. Nothing!

We could have hamstrung our already-thin salary cap by paying him somewhere between $13M-$16M/year. Instead, we may now get a solid upgrade at linebacker and/or guard with that money.

The 4th round pick may be packaged next month with other picks to enable us to move up in the Draft and take a quarterback (or other stud player who wouldn't be around 11th overall).

Again, I'm ambivalent about this, but only after taking the totality of the situation into perspective. Let's see how free agency and the draft shake out. Then, and only then, should we grade this trade.
 
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# 1 in receptions, # 110 in YPC. He has good hands and... that's about it. That's not worth 16 million. Draft Berrios in the 6th and you'll get the same production at a lower cost and without the attitude.
 
TimeB0mb said:
# 1 in receptions, # 110 in YPC. He has good hands and... that's about it. That's not worth 16 million. Draft Berrios in the 6th and you'll get the same production at a lower cost and without the attitude.
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A BOLD INSPIRED MOVE INDEED.

GOCANES
 
Poptimus said:
I see you missed the part about Landry getting traded to the Cleveland Browns.

He'll be lucky to win 4 games next year, I don't care if Tyrod Taylor is at QB and they have the 1st and 4th overall picks. They're the Browns.
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Not talking about Landry winning Super Bowl just showing where Dolphins don’t seem to get enough value in trades
 
TimeB0mb said:
# 1 in receptions, # 110 in YPC. He has good hands and... that's about it. That's not worth 16 million. Draft Berrios in the 6th and you'll get the same production at a lower cost and without the attitude.
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I certainly wouldn't mind if Miami drafted Berrios, but I believe Jakeem Grant can be a nice weapon in the slot. He simply hasn't gotten the reps, but when he was on the field he made plays. How about we sign Jimmy Graham at TE and pair him up with Stills and Parker on the outside with Jakeem in the slot? That sounds pretty **** good to me. Then use the leftover money from not signing Landry to get an upgrade at guard so that Jermon Bushrod never plays another snap for us.
 
Poptimus said:
I see you missed the part about Landry getting traded to the Cleveland Browns.

He'll be lucky to win 4 games next year, I don't care if Tyrod Taylor is at QB and they have the 1st and 4th overall picks. They're the Browns.
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With the addition of Taylor, I’m sure the Browns will take Barkley #1 to compliment Duke in the backfield. I wonder if they keep the #4 and take whoever is left at QB or possibly trade down. At least the Browns are finally trying.
 
cubin10 said:
I read that as well on cleveland info when the cut crowell, dukes numbers were substantially better than crowell. Duke is a player and can do some good things under the right situation.
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Yep I hear they are looking for someone to team up with Duke once Crowell leaves
 
Cane Fan 4 Life said:
With the addition of Taylor, I’m sure the Browns will take Barkley #1 to compliment Duke in the backfield. I wonder if they keep the #4 and take whoever is left at QB or possibly trade down. At least the Browns are finally trying.
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What do they do with Isaiah Crowell? Trade him for like a 6th or something? His yards per carry is hot garbage. I'm still not sure they don't take a QB #1, but I hope you're right because it just means there's a greater chance Mayfield or Rosen falls to Miami 11th.

The Browns simply don't use Duke properly. I had him on my fantasy team, it was maddening to see him get less than 5 carries in a game and instead they turn him into a WR.
 
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Poptimus said:
Viewing the trade in a vacuum, it's awful. There simply is no way that Jarvis Landry is not worth more than a 4th round pick this year (and a late 4th, I should add) and a 7th round pick next year. But that's myopic.

He was a free agent and could have left for nothing. Nothing!

We could have hamstrung our already-thin salary cap by paying him somewhere between $13M-$16M/year. Instead, we may now get a solid upgrade at linebacker and/or guard with that money.

The 4th round pick may be packaged next month with other picks to enable us to move up in the Draft and take a quarterback (or other stud player who wouldn't be around 11th overall).

Again, I'm ambivalent about this, but only after taking the totality of the situation into perspective. Let's see how free agency and the draft shake out. Then, and only then, should we grade this trade.
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Would we not have got a 3rd compensatory pick if he walked in free agency?
 
Poptimus said:
Viewing the trade in a vacuum, it's awful. There simply is no way that Jarvis Landry is not worth more than a 4th round pick this year (and a late 4th, I should add) and a 7th round pick next year. But that's myopic.

He was a free agent and could have left for nothing. Nothing!

We could have hamstrung our already-thin salary cap by paying him somewhere between $13M-$16M/year. Instead, we may now get a solid upgrade at linebacker and/or guard with that money.

The 4th round pick may be packaged next month with other picks to enable us to move up in the Draft and take a quarterback (or other stud player who wouldn't be around 11th overall).

Again, I'm ambivalent about this, but only after taking the totality of the situation into perspective. Let's see how free agency and the draft shake out. Then, and only then, should we grade this trade.
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Don't disagree if you are looking only through that lens, but if we are talking totality, this is the fourth starter we've let walk out the door and got nothing in return.

This battle was lost when you spent money on Kiki Alonso instead of extending Jarvis, etc. He clearly outpeformed his $900k while the guy you paid salsa danced his way down Las Olas to be the mediocre tweener he always has been.

In totality it is another poorly executed roster move in a string of horrific and incompetent decisions. You can be blah on this in isolation but continuing to let go of your best assets for less than they're worth (or nothing) doesn't work in any business.
 
I mean guys, we helped rebuild the Eagles, why not the Browns right?

Someone explain to Steven Ross you don't make money in the NFL by renovating other teams.
 
Rob_CFC95 said:
Would we not have got a 3rd compensatory pick if he walked in free agency?
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Yes, but not until 2019 and I believe it was Jimmy Johnson who came up with the theory that a draft pick next year is worth one round later than a draft pick this year. So in essence Miami got just that (throw in the 7th round pick we get next year and we slightly came out ahead using that logic).

Our front office is on thin ice and assuredly knows it. It scares me what they might do in both free agency and the Draft. I can see them mortgaging the future with regard to both. So why not do the same with Landry and just pay him? I think it was more Gase not wanting an alpha on the team challenging him, much like was the case with Ajayi. We'll know that's not true if they end up getting Baker Mayfield, but that's my guess.
 
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