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And the reason all rap sounds the same these days is because the South blew up. Now EVERYBODY from Cali to NY is making Southern style records.

MF'ers from NY had to start making Southern records just to move numbers. Now everybody wanna ride donks and use terms like "bruh" and "fvck ni99a".
 
Coach Macho said:
White Dawg was never in JPE.
Ever.
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I saw white dawg in Orlando with a box Chevy on 100 spokes with big letters on the back glass....Jam Pony Express DJs Ft. Lauderdale on it and I'm pretty sure they had a CD together at the same time. Maybe they were just doing remixes with his songs and he was driving one of their cars but they were obviously close. Also, IIRC the CD specifically indicated their partnership but maybe it was just for that album.
 
Coach Macho said:
It was just party music, man.
Yall hip-hop heads over dissect that ****.
It was created to get b!ctches loose and it did it's job throughout the whole 90's.
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I’d be lying if I said I never listened to it , I was just saying old timers can’t hate on today’s hip hop then say 2LC was some amazing content.

It was good beats , with third grade lyrics. As an Art it was trash. But as Ive said “I’ve jammed out to it”.

I’m 40 and I’m a man , but I’m just saying.
 
Cribby said:
I’d be lying if I said I never listened to it , I was just saying old timers can’t hate on today’s hip hop then say 2LC was some amazing content.

It was good beats , with third grade lyrics. As an Art it was trash. But as Ive said “I’ve jammed out to it”.

I’m 40 and I’m a man , but I’m just saying.
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The difference is, 2 Live Crew was almost completely underground and considered strictly club music. The Wack hip hop that we hear today is selling millions of albums and is on mainstream radio. I'm fully aware that we had trash music during our generation as well, but it wasn't on the front of the Source magazine.
 
Coach Macho said:
The difference is, 2 Live Crew was almost completely underground and considered strictly club music. The Wack hip hop that we hear today is selling millions of albums and is on mainstream radio. I'm fully aware that we had trash music during our generation as well, but it wasn't on the front of the Source magazine.
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I don’t consider them underground , I’m from north fla and was sneaking their tapes in my house in fourth grade. They were far from that imo. Their videos were on after hours on national cable channels too.

I mean if I knew them as a 9-10 year old way before the internet they couldn’t be underground.
 
duke4heisman said:
I saw white dawg in Orlando with a box Chevy on 100 spokes with big letters on the back glass....Jam Pony Express DJs Ft. Lauderdale on it and I'm pretty sure they had a CD together at the same time. Maybe they were just doing remixes with his songs and he was driving one of their cars but they were obviously close. Also, IIRC the CD specifically indicated their partnership but maybe it was just for that album.
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Nah brother, White Dawg was never in JPE. Jam Pony started in 1981 and consisted of 3 core members. You sure you're not thinking of Captain D? He's the only white guy that ever collaborated with Jam Pony to my knowledge. They still mic check today actually. There's some videos on YouTube.

White Dawg was more of a rapper than a DJ or mic checker.
 
Cribby said:
I don’t consider them underground , I’m from north fla and was sneaking their tapes in my house in fourth grade. They were far from that imo. Their videos were on after hours on national cable channels too.

I mean if I knew them as a 9-10 year old way before the internet they couldn’t be underground.
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I should have said "regional" instead of underground.
They weren't well recepted outside of Florida. Clubs up North weren't jamming 2 Live Crew.

So my point is, yes their music was trash. But their trash wasn't force-fed to the rest of the United States. They weren't respected. They weren't doing numbers outside of the South.
 
Btw I’m a lyrics snob , or at least want some purpose behind the music. But we all have our airhead moments when we just want to nod our head to brainless music with a good beat. It just seems like the younger cats do it in reverse.

My knock on today’s hip hop is majority of it has no content or lyrics.

But I’m old, nobody really cares.
 
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Coach Macho said:
I should have said "regional" instead of underground.
They weren't well recepted outside of Florida. Clubs up North weren't jamming 2 Live Crew.

So my point is, yes their music was trash. But their trash wasn't force-fed to the rest of the United States. They weren't respected. They weren't doing numbers outside of the South.
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I can respect that. I don’t think we’re really disagreeing.
 
Coach Macho said:
Nah brother, White Dawg was never in JPE. Jam Pony started in 1981 and consisted of 3 core members. You sure you're not thinking of Captain D? He's the only white guy that ever collaborated with Jam Pony to my knowledge. They still mic check today actually. There's some videos on YouTube.

White Dawg was more of a rapper than a DJ or mic checker.
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I'm 99% sure it was white dawg but that was my freshman year, consisting of mass quantities of beer and Crip. I could be wrong but I really don't think so.
 
I still have a jpe tape, found it in my old closet at my moms house. On a side note, I played ball against lock cool jock, he went to North East, and I went to stranahan.
 
duke4heisman said:
I'm 99% sure it was white dawg but that was my freshman year, consisting of mass quantities of beer and Crip. I could be wrong but I really don't think so.
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Maybe he collaborated with them or something on a tape. He was never actually in the group though.

When White Dawg lived in Broward we tried to help him move his CDs. We were passing them around at the mall, beach, etc. His music wasn't well-liked around these parts. LOL
 
Coach Macho said:
Maybe he collaborated with them or something on a tape. He was never actually in the group though.

When White Dawg lived in Broward we tried to help him move his CDs. We were passing them around at the mall, beach, etc. His music wasn't well-liked around these parts. LOL
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Yeah that's more of what it seemed like than him being a member but like I said, the CD had promos of them and it was remixed by Jam Pony. Probably caught a rare occasion of him driving one of their cars. Dude looked nuts and had golds....lol
 
OriginalGatorHater said:
Facts he is my favorite too. Blood Money RIP went hard too and Lil Reese is good too and still putting out music. I like Chief and his crew because he reminds me of when I was a little kid with my boys, but I wish they would stick to his old style instead of always trying to mix it up.

Yup, thats what I heard about 21. Thats why I still fvck with him. Its not like he moved to atlanta when he was in his 20s or some ****. He grew up there and played the streets out there. My cousin told me he is always hanging out on the block with the EA and mark trail bounty hunter bloods and the marktrail bloodhoundz. Even before he blew up so you know he has clout in the city.
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Yup he definately was in it.
Its similar to how folks make fun of Young Thug...yet you hear NO real atl rappers talk sh*t behind em....his crew off of cleveland was a wild bunch...well connected.
 
white dawg was loosely connected with Jam Pony you are right. I remember that..and had a few Jam Pony tapes early 2000s i got out of orlando.

For dade the mic checkin was Uncle Al and Boda Lover. But no one did it like Jam Pony foreal thats a Broward thing...gotta credit that
 
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gogeta4 said:
Yup he definately was in it.
Its similar to how folks make fun of Young Thug...yet you hear NO real atl rappers talk sh*t behind em....his crew off of cleveland was a wild bunch...well connected.
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Oh schit I didn't know you knew about the A. Ya you talking about R.O.C crew Raised on Cleveland Rich off Crime. That's his crew, but they rock with the bigger MDC, ABG, and SMM. He also got blessed in with IFGB and brought that set to Atlanta because hes always throwin up the F now.
 
gogeta4 said:
white dawg was loosely connected with Jam Pony you are right. I remember that..and had a few Jam Pony tapes early 2000s i got out of orlando.

For dade the mic checkin was Uncle Al and Boda Lover. But no one did it like Jam Pony foreal thats a Broward thing...gotta credit that
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Thanks, I knew I wasn't crazy....lol
 
Coach Macho said:
And the reason all rap sounds the same these days is because the South blew up. Now EVERYBODY from Cali to NY is making Southern style records.

MF'ers from NY had to start making Southern records just to move numbers. Now everybody wanna ride donks and use terms like "bruh" and "fvck ni99a".
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Ya, no one from new york is riding around in a piece of schit 1960/70s car and calling it a donk. People from Cali to NY are not making southern style records. Bruh is not a southern term we have been using it since I was a little kid. I guess I'll give you fvck ni99a because I did hear southern dudes saying it first, but you already copied all of new yorks slang. Gat, strap, knocked off, whack, walk, B, blick I can go on for days.

I will give you southern rap took off, but thats because of Atlanta and NO, not ******* Miami lmao. I don't even think a Miami rapper has ever even put out a multi platinum selling album. LMAO.
 
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