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This probably isn't the greatest place to ask this type of thing, but you people on this board have been all over the globe it seems. At the very least maybe I can get a suggestion.

My dad has always had control issues regarding slamming down beers, it bit him in the *** not long ago. We went out on his air boat to spend some time cruising the shore lines maybe a year ago. Well after spending a good amount of time drinking with this rather cool individual, I know when he gets into what I call "party mode." It's usually at that point where I would just make up an excuse to go do something else, but we were out on the water and he decided it was time to party.

I'll skip to what happened - We managed to get the air boat back on the trailer, but he went way way too fast trying to hop off of it and onto the dock. Foot slipped on the wet dock, feet went straight up, hip slammed straight onto the dock and then head first into the water where he got cut up on some rocks.

Now fortunately this seems to have gotten his attention with regards to going party mode on a boat, but the problem is the cuts that happened. They healed up, but he contracted something from that water out on the st. johns river. He has some kind of bacteria or fungus that is slowly eating away at the skin on his hands. He just doesn't, or hasn't, seemed to get the significance of what is going on either. I got him to go to the VA hospital, and they gave him a cream for it ( didn't even try to identify what the fck it actually is ). The cream DID work, until they had him wean off of it and then the stuff comes right back. Went through 2 bottles and no joy.

Over the year this has been going it has finally seemed to dawn on him that his life may be on the line. He's tried everything under the sun from soaking his hands in motor oil, to all different combinations of honey, ginger, vinegar... the only thing that put a dent in it was when he woke up one morning and it was itching so bad he put his hands in bleach so long that it actually burnt his hands. I suppose looking back that is finally what got his attention that this is a serious situation.

I can't believe the VA hospital didn't do their due diligence with this, but that's another story altogether. Does anyone know anyone that has had this issue or what may be causing it? The day he woke up when it was severe with the bleach, you could literally see the blood in his hands through the cuts.
 
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You need to get him back to a doctor. Is there a wound care center nearby? Usually you'll find them near hospitals. They have experience with older people and wounds that are slow to heal along with the bacteria that like to inhabit them.

This is something he needs to take very seriously.
 
1) Have him seek medical care immediately

2) How is he eligible for VA care?

3) Did they mention the term "fascitis" or "necrotizing fascitis" at all?
 
paksat said:
This probably isn't the greatest place to ask this type of thing, but you people on this board have been all over the globe it seems. At the very least maybe I can get a suggestion.

My dad has always had control issues regarding slamming down beers, it bit him in the *** not long ago. We went out on his air boat to spend some time cruising the shore lines maybe a year ago. Well after spending a good amount of time drinking with this rather cool individual, I know when he gets into what I call "party mode." It's usually at that point where I would just make up an excuse to go do something else, but we were out on the water and he decided it was time to party.

I'll skip to what happened - We managed to get the air boat back on the trailer, but he went way way too fast trying to hop off of it and onto the dock. Foot slipped on the wet dock, feet went straight up, hip slammed straight onto the dock and then head first into the water where he got cut up on some rocks.

Now fortunately this seems to have gotten his attention with regards to going party mode on a boat, but the problem is the cuts that happened. They healed up, but he contracted something from that water out on the st. johns river. He has some kind of bacteria or fungus that is slowly eating away at the skin on his hands. He just doesn't, or hasn't, seemed to get the significance of what is going on either. I got him to go to the VA hospital, and they gave him a cream for it ( didn't even try to identify what the fck it actually is ). The cream DID work, until they had him wean off of it and then the stuff comes right back. Went through 2 bottles and no joy.

Over the year this has been going it has finally seemed to dawn on him that his life may be on the line. He's tried everything under the sun from soaking his hands in motor oil, to all different combinations of honey, ginger, vinegar... the only thing that put a dent in it was when he woke up one morning and it was itching so bad he put his hands in bleach so long that it actually burnt his hands. I suppose looking back that is finally what got his attention that this is a serious situation.

I can't believe the VA hospital didn't do their due diligence with this, but that's another story altogether. Does anyone know anyone that has had this issue or what may be causing it? The day he woke up when it was severe with the bleach, you could literally see the blood in his hands through the cuts.
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no more soaking in chemical agents. seek medical attention at the closest ER and they should be able to get you a dermatology appointment.

and BTW, a picture is worth a thousand words.
 
Wife (PA) says ask about nercotizing fasciitis locally. Augmentin and bactrim would probably be first round of treatment. Bad stuff if Nec Fas.. should be at the hospital immediately.
 
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**** that sounds like some form of flesh eating bacteria but usually those cases spread pretty fast.
 
I'm actually surprised he's still alive if the infection did originate in a Florida fresh water body. There are definitely some horror stories out there.

I'd tell him you suspect this is just a side effect of him jerking off too much. Hairy palms gone horribly awry.

That said, take everyone's advice here and force him to go to an ER. You need to stop this from spreading and you absolutely don't want to start messing around with sepsis and a host of other things
 
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Don’t ever soak your hands on bleach or gasoline or continue cleaning it with alcohol. I’ve seen many times people do this only to have dermatitis from the continued cleaning. With chemicals or disinfectants. Seen it countless times. “Hey doc my wound is infected and I’ve been using bleach and alcohol and neosporon and peroxide, it’s not healing and it’s been 3 weeks.

In Regards to your dad and the dock
1 how long ago
2 how deep were his cuts.
3 when did he seek care after the injury happened
4 is he in pain or itching and what cream did they give him
5 are his ha da swollen or red or both
6 are the wounds open oozing pus, blood or just clear fluid.
6 of its just itching and no pain I doubt it’s a bacteria
7 most flesh eating bacteria cause significant amount of pain and develop quickly in a matter of 48 hrs or less.
8 Go to the Er to make sure it is a a sever infection if he is in pain and the swelling or redness to his hands is severe and spreading to his wrist or forearms.
9 the itching really bad can be a form of dermatitis or a parasite like scabies.
10 if it’s been a few weeks and it got better with a cream then the cream was likely a steroid.
If it was a steroid and it cleared up it’s likely a skin allergy likely dermatitis or hand eczema.
regardless seek medical care immediately.
 
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The stuff that's been coming down Florida rivers for years is beginning to hit saturation points. On the Peace River we get millions of gallons a day of blended water from Bone Valley - MOSAIC FERTILIZER Phosphate mining - toxic runoff. The EPA allows them to dilute the pollution with water (Bending) so when it hits the outflow where ts measured, it is below EPA acceptable levels. Once it hits the river and accumulates, they don't care. MOSAIC can use up to 70 million gallons a day for this purpose for the next 20 years just on the cost of a permit.

There are all sorts of bacteria problems in Florida's rivers, the flesh-eating one killed a number of people last year. Some of my fishing guide buddies have had small cuts on their hands get infected with the same issues your dad is having and they haven't completely healed for as long as two years. Doctors as you're finding out, kind of experiment with treatments. Good luck maybe call around and ask if they've had any experience with river water infections.
 
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