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OT-How Kirby Smart got Georgia this far this fast

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Absolute dog **** division with a lot of great upperclassmen, a solid o-line, and great running backs.
 
who cares because its not Miami. **** this make believe playoff. Its one team who deserves to be there vs a team that opinions put there. I will learn about the outcome of the "playoff" the same way I learned about UGA v. Okl AND Clem v. Bamer.....via Canesinsight. I refuse to watch that **** show they cvall a playoff....its a ******* extra game
 
Uh... He also took over for MARK RICHT, not a recruiting moron like Al Golden!!!
 
QuatroCane said:
Yeah, I laughed the other day when one of those cucks said that Kirby had changed the "culture" of the Georgia program?

So what was their culture and what is their culture now?
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I kind of look at it like KY basketball pre-Calipari and post-Calipari. Same could be said for Alabama pre and post Saban.

I'm a huge Richt fan and happy as **** we got him, but let's just say "energizing" the alumni and booster base to "work" to their full capacity since they are tired of mediocrity has alot to do with the immediate HUGE recruiting success at Georgia. Georgia has that monstrous financial base much like Alabama.

All of that said, while I would like to think Richt at UGA with 30+ seniors this year would have accomplished the same thing, I have to be honest and say I have my doubts.

I want to believe Richt has learned a ton the last two years about the differences in the jobs. I don't want him apologizing too much for exploding in the Orange Bowl simply because I believe (or hope) that MIGHT have been the final straw for a very tolerant and passive good guy who desperately tries to overlook biased officiating against UM and chalks it up to being a man and overcoming.

My biggest concern in hiring Richt was this might be looked at more like a hobby taking him into retirement versus an opportunity to cement a legacy. He still has the desire to win, I have no doubt....but I think he knows even more now the challenge he faces at UM against state school booster conglomerates, officiating biases and potential salary restrictions in coaching, etc.

Not a bad thing in my opinion, the realization was bound to come no matter how much he thought he knew coming into the gig. I want him to hire a quality OC he shares a philosophy with and start getting ****ed off a little more often. If he doesn't believe in Us Against the World by now, I guess he never will.

UM
 
AUcane said:
RBLCane said:
Uh... He also took over for MARK RICHT, not a recruiting moron like Al Golden!!!
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Would you say we have some talent on defense?
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I may have been a little too harsh on Golden... My point is that in the years preceding Richt's departure from Georgia, he did a much better job recruiting than Golden did during the same timeframe. Smart inherited some elite classes; Richt didn't. Therefore any comparison between the two requires that we acknowledge two different starting points.
 
QuatroCane said:
Yeah, I laughed the other day when one of those cucks said that Kirby had changed the "culture" of the Georgia program?

So what was their culture and what is their culture now?
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I don't know if it's true or not but you don't buy into the fact that culture in a program can be changed within a year of the prior staff that was there for 10-15 years? Of course it can. It happened here.
 
RBLCane said:
AUcane said:
RBLCane said:
Uh... He also took over for MARK RICHT, not a recruiting moron like Al Golden!!!
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Would you say we have some talent on defense?
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I may have been a little too harsh on Golden... My point is that in the years preceding Richt's departure from Georgia, he did a much better job recruiting than Golden did during the same timeframe. Smart inherited some elite classes; Richt didn't. Therefore any comparison between the two requires that we acknowledge two different starting points.
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Here is some data from 247 sports to back this up:

2011:
UGA - #7 in the class rankings
UM - #33

2012:
UGA - #9
UM - #10

2013:
UGA - #13
UM - #14

2014:
UGA #8
UM #12

2015:
UGA #6
UM #27

2016:
UGA #6
UM #22
 
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People forget that Richt's last three years at UGA was a disaster of injuries. Chubs, Gurley, Sony all had significant injuries as well as QB and many other star players. Each year UGA was expected to be good but the bug got them.

31 Seniors is an absolute miracle as well. We have ten seniors. They have more than a full offense and defense worth of seniors than we do.
 
JohnZarrilli said:
KANE said:
First of all, He's got 31 seniors. I could stop right there. He's also got a two headed monster at RB. The SEC East is not the strongest division. And honestly, he's really not done anything that Mark Richt didn't do by year 2. There just wasn't a playoff back then.
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He has recruited far better than Mark Richt did at Georgia. He's upped the blue chip ratio from about 50 percent when he took over to about 65 percent in just two recruiting classes and that's including his transition class. 3 5 star qbs in a row... That's significant and Georgia's talent, on paper, will only get better after this recruiting class.

Edit: before everyone loses their ****, we're on the way to becoming competitive from a talent perspective. https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...penn-state-miami-recruit-2018-blue-chip-ratio
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I wouldn't say FAR better. Go back and look at where some of CMR recruiting classes ranked while he was at UGA. Kirby has a hot hand right now with his team in the Nat. Title game, and he's using it to his advantage on the recruiting front, as he should. I do agree with most of your post, however.
 
KevinCaneFace said:
People forget that Richt's last three years at UGA was a disaster of injuries. Chubs, Gurley, Sony all had significant injuries as well as QB and many other star players. Each year UGA was expected to be good but the bug got them.

31 Seniors is an absolute miracle as well. We have ten seniors. They have more than a full offense and defense worth of seniors than we do.
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THIS^^^^
 
KANE said:
JohnZarrilli said:
KANE said:
First of all, He's got 31 seniors. I could stop right there. He's also got a two headed monster at RB. The SEC East is not the strongest division. And honestly, he's really not done anything that Mark Richt didn't do by year 2. There just wasn't a playoff back then.
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He has recruited far better than Mark Richt did at Georgia. He's upped the blue chip ratio from about 50 percent when he took over to about 65 percent in just two recruiting classes and that's including his transition class. 3 5 star qbs in a row... That's significant and Georgia's talent, on paper, will only get better after this recruiting class.

Edit: before everyone loses their ****, we're on the way to becoming competitive from a talent perspective. https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...penn-state-miami-recruit-2018-blue-chip-ratio
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I wouldn't say FAR better. Go back and look at where some of CMR recruiting classes ranked while he was at UGA. Kirby has a hot hand right now with his team in the Nat. Title game, and he's using it to his advantage on the recruiting front, as he should. I do agree with most of your post, however.
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He's getting the best of the elite players in Georgia to stay home. We need Richt to do that in Florida.

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TreOFive said:
who cares because its not Miami. **** this make believe playoff. Its one team who deserves to be there vs a team that opinions put there. I will learn about the outcome of the "playoff" the same way I learned about UGA v. Okl AND Clem v. Bamer.....via Canesinsight. I refuse to watch that **** show they cvall a playoff....its a ****ing extra game
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Maybe the opinion should have been replacing Clemson with OSU the way the "opinion" team dismantled them.

Bama lost to a rival, at the end of the season, with a sht ton of injuries. You saw what they are when healthy. I'm no Bama fan, but I do believe in putting in the best four no matter if they win a conference title or not, as long as the title winner is a top 5-10 team.

You guys act like Bama was some team in the 15-20 range who was borderline championship caliber.
 
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Fightinibis said:
QuatroCane said:
Yeah, I laughed the other day when one of those cucks said that Kirby had changed the "culture" of the Georgia program?

So what was their culture and what is their culture now?
Click to expand...

I kind of look at it like KY basketball pre-Calipari and post-Calipari. Same could be said for Alabama pre and post Saban.

I'm a huge Richt fan and happy as **** we got him, but let's just say "energizing" the alumni and booster base to "work" to their full capacity since they are tired of mediocrity has alot to do with the immediate HUGE recruiting success at Georgia. Georgia has that monstrous financial base much like Alabama.

All of that said, while I would like to think Richt at UGA with 30+ seniors this year would have accomplished the same thing, I have to be honest and say I have my doubts.

I want to believe Richt has learned a ton the last two years about the differences in the jobs. I don't want him apologizing too much for exploding in the Orange Bowl simply because I believe (or hope) that MIGHT have been the final straw for a very tolerant and passive good guy who desperately tries to overlook biased officiating against UM and chalks it up to being a man and overcoming.

My biggest concern in hiring Richt was this might be looked at more like a hobby taking him into retirement versus an opportunity to cement a legacy. He still has the desire to win, I have no doubt....but I think he knows even more now the challenge he faces at UM against state school booster conglomerates, officiating biases and potential salary restrictions in coaching, etc.

Not a bad thing in my opinion, the realization was bound to come no matter how much he thought he knew coming into the gig. I want him to hire a quality OC he shares a philosophy with and start getting ****ed off a little more often. If he doesn't believe in Us Against the World by now, I guess he never will.

UM
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Fantastic post.
 
***-e-skr said:
TreOFive said:
who cares because its not Miami. **** this make believe playoff. Its one team who deserves to be there vs a team that opinions put there. I will learn about the outcome of the "playoff" the same way I learned about UGA v. Okl AND Clem v. Bamer.....via Canesinsight. I refuse to watch that **** show they cvall a playoff....its a ****ing extra game
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Maybe the opinion should have been replacing Clemson with OSU the way the "opinion" team dismantled them.

Bama lost to a rival, at the end of the season, with a sht ton of injuries. You saw what they are when healthy. I'm no Bama fan, but I do believe in putting in the best four no matter if they win a conference title or not, as long as the title winner is a top 5-10 team.

You guys act like Bama was some team in the 15-20 range who was borderline championship caliber.
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They didn't win their division , enough said!
 
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