OT:Dolphins free agency

[tyroil smoochie-wallace]

Plus Kamalu has a lot of untapped potential. Taking him late like that is a small investment on a possible big return. Even better if he goes undrafted and we sign him.

Anybody that has a chance to develop nicely really in the later rounds is worth taking 6th or 7th. Also wouldn't mind the Dolphins picking up Scott if he's UFA, could be a nice 4 or 5 Wr

 

[caneinpsl]

we need to resign Vernon.

I would use this draft for a cb....We may can find a back up pass rusher Shelby level on the backend of draft or as a undrafted free agent pick up.

Positions of need in draft:
CB, SS, Lb, QB

Through Free agency: OG, LB, Swing Tackle.

Our LBS were atrocious i said it before draft LAST year and nothing changed even during the year and we still have the same holes.

I agree on drafting a CB first and foremost. Picking at 8 that gets you the best value. Especially if Hargeaves drops that far. He's as close to a sure thing as they come. We need better LB play badly, but IMHO it's better address that in free agency, where it's a cheaper position to sign free agents compared to CB and DE.

As for Vernon it sounds like a long term deal isn't going to happen unless his offers from other clubs fall way short. We already offered him $12 mil a year and he turned that down. It's sound like the Fins aren't interested in paying him $14+ mil a season. Somebody probably will as much cash is out there on the market with only a couple young, quality DE free agents.

 

[Zbrod95]

Dolphins need to take either Hargreaves or Alexander with their #1 . Secondary is terrible. So many misses over the last 3-4 drafts. In the next 2 rounds they need to draft a 2 OG and OT. Albert and Pouncey is all they got on the OL. It's a terrible situation there. IMO, they address the secondary and OL and they can compete immediately. If I were the Dolphins GM I would draft like this:

1. Hargreaves (CB UF)
2. Ryan Kelly (OC Alabama). Move him to one of the OG spots or move Pouncey.
3. R. Robinson (CB LSU)
4. A. Young (OT Aub)
5. E. Striker (OLB/S Okl) or Denver Kirkland
6. BPA Kamalu
7. BPA McCord

After typing that I just realized I went all SEC..(UGH) except the last 2 picks.

I agree except R. Robinson, I think they'll sign a established corner in free agency. I'd love Brandon Boykin or Janoris Jenkins. Spend that 3rd on a linebacker imo

kamalu in the 6th and McCord in the 7th?? Not only do they not fit the scheme but kamalu has no business being a 6th rounder and McCord shouldn't be drafted

Oh my bad I just noticed, I really wouldn't know who to take those picks on really. I'd just go with players that had potential or decent players with red flags.

simple DL, it's the deepest class in 10 years. My board goes

1) Myles Jack(LB Ucla)/Hargreaves(CB Florida), depending on who's available
2) Charles Tapper(DE Clemson)/Joshua Garnett(G Stanford),depending on who's there
3) KeiVarae Russell(CB Notre Dame), Dieon Jones( ILB LSU) depending on who's there
4) Landon Turner(G Nort Carolina), Keith Marshall(RB Georgia) depending on who's there
5) Daniel Lasco (RB California), Javon Hargrave(DT South Carolina St.) depending who's there
6) Matt Judon (DE Grand Valley St. ), Joel Haeg(T North Dakota State) depending on who's there
7) Aj Stamps( FS Kentucky), Giorgio Newberry(DE Florida State) depending on who's there

Both of these are A's in my book

 

[Brooklyndee]

Pacman will probably come here cause of the Vance Joseph connection, would love to pair Reshad with Mcleod safety from Rams or the safety from bengals George Iloka

They'd have to be Stone cold crazy to bring pacman to miami. Might as well just donate that money

 

[Canesfan1899]

we need to resign Vernon.

I would use this draft for a cb....We may can find a back up pass rusher Shelby level on the backend of draft or as a undrafted free agent pick up.

Positions of need in draft:
CB, SS, Lb, QB

Through Free agency: OG, LB, Swing Tackle.

Our LBS were atrocious i said it before draft LAST year and nothing changed even during the year and we still have the same holes.

I saw a mock with us taking Myles Jack. That would be a huge boost to the LB corp.

I would take jaylon smith over him in a heart beat if there wasn't a suspected nerve issue with his repaired knee when they looked at it at the combine just because he's more way more polished but both should be top 5 LB's a couple of years from now

Smith would've been my choice as well if he was healthy but it's hard to take a kid at #8 when you'll likely have to sit him a year to get him healthy. I personally would love for us to get a kid like Hargraves or Alexander at 8 and address LB later in the draft. If Smith happened to be there in the 2nd round I would take him in a heartbeat.

 

[Zbrod95]

we need to resign Vernon.

I would use this draft for a cb....We may can find a back up pass rusher Shelby level on the backend of draft or as a undrafted free agent pick up.

Positions of need in draft:
CB, SS, Lb, QB

Through Free agency: OG, LB, Swing Tackle.

Our LBS were atrocious i said it before draft LAST year and nothing changed even during the year and we still have the same holes.

I saw a mock with us taking Myles Jack. That would be a huge boost to the LB corp.

I would take jaylon smith over him in a heart beat if there wasn't a suspected nerve issue with his repaired knee when they looked at it at the combine just because he's more way more polished but both should be top 5 LB's a couple of years from now

Smith would've been my choice as well if he was healthy but it's hard to take a kid at #8 when you'll likely have to sit him a year to get him healthy. I personally would love for us to get a kid like Hargraves or Alexander at 8 and address LB later in the draft. If Smith happened to be there in the 2nd round I would take him in a heartbeat.

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

 

[Canesfan1899]

we need to resign Vernon.

I would use this draft for a cb....We may can find a back up pass rusher Shelby level on the backend of draft or as a undrafted free agent pick up.

Positions of need in draft:
CB, SS, Lb, QB

Through Free agency: OG, LB, Swing Tackle.

Our LBS were atrocious i said it before draft LAST year and nothing changed even during the year and we still have the same holes.

I saw a mock with us taking Myles Jack. That would be a huge boost to the LB corp.

I would take jaylon smith over him in a heart beat if there wasn't a suspected nerve issue with his repaired knee when they looked at it at the combine just because he's more way more polished but both should be top 5 LB's a couple of years from now

Smith would've been my choice as well if he was healthy but it's hard to take a kid at #8 when you'll likely have to sit him a year to get him healthy. I personally would love for us to get a kid like Hargraves or Alexander at 8 and address LB later in the draft. If Smith happened to be there in the 2nd round I would take him in a heartbeat.

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

 

[Zbrod95]

I saw a mock with us taking Myles Jack. That would be a huge boost to the LB corp.

I would take jaylon smith over him in a heart beat if there wasn't a suspected nerve issue with his repaired knee when they looked at it at the combine just because he's more way more polished but both should be top 5 LB's a couple of years from now

Smith would've been my choice as well if he was healthy but it's hard to take a kid at #8 when you'll likely have to sit him a year to get him healthy. I personally would love for us to get a kid like Hargraves or Alexander at 8 and address LB later in the draft. If Smith happened to be there in the 2nd round I would take him in a heartbeat.

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

 

[Canesfan1899]

I would take jaylon smith over him in a heart beat if there wasn't a suspected nerve issue with his repaired knee when they looked at it at the combine just because he's more way more polished but both should be top 5 LB's a couple of years from now

Smith would've been my choice as well if he was healthy but it's hard to take a kid at #8 when you'll likely have to sit him a year to get him healthy. I personally would love for us to get a kid like Hargraves or Alexander at 8 and address LB later in the draft. If Smith happened to be there in the 2nd round I would take him in a heartbeat.

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

 

[marshallrc13]

Smith would've been my choice as well if he was healthy but it's hard to take a kid at #8 when you'll likely have to sit him a year to get him healthy. I personally would love for us to get a kid like Hargraves or Alexander at 8 and address LB later in the draft. If Smith happened to be there in the 2nd round I would take him in a heartbeat.

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

The entire OL outside Pouncey and Albert are an utter failure. James, Thomas, Turner, and Douglas are all liabilities. Our drafting of OL has been abysmal at best. Same can be said in regards to CB. Always looking for a diamond in the rough at a small school. None of them can cover anyone without holding. Then we sign Grimes to a big contract and he's almost collecting social security. Oh yeah, and we trade away half our picks to move up and grab Dion Jordan.

I wish we could bring back Jimmy Johnson and give him 3 yrs to build a team!

 

[Zbrod95]

Smith would've been my choice as well if he was healthy but it's hard to take a kid at #8 when you'll likely have to sit him a year to get him healthy. I personally would love for us to get a kid like Hargraves or Alexander at 8 and address LB later in the draft. If Smith happened to be there in the 2nd round I would take him in a heartbeat.

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

It not about a star player it's about getting a quantity of good players, even if you have to pass up Vernon Hargreaves so you can trade down or take an LB because you signed good players at is position. Look at the Cardinals, the only person IMO you can make a case that are superstars are tyrann Mathieu and Patrick Peterson and if you want to consider Carson and Fitz a superstar then ok, but everyone else is just good

 

[marshallrc13]

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

It not about a star player it's about getting a quantity of good players, even if you have to pass up Vernon Hargreaves so you can trade down or take an LB because you signed good players at is position. Look at the Cardinals, the only person IMO you can make a case that are superstars are tyrann Mathieu and Patrick Peterson and if you want to consider Carson and Fitz a superstar then ok, but everyone else is just good

I think Calias Campbell is a super star as well, but point taken. Jimmy Johnson made a living trading down and getting more quality players. Problem is, most guys suck at it. We can trade down again and again, but if we end up with more subpar players you have what we have now....

 

[Canesfan1899]

tbh I'd rather do something like sign Janoris Jenkins with Leon Hall and Chad Greenway then draft Myles jack or trade down a little for Darren Lee then draft Jaylon in the 2nd round then replace Chad with jaylon but that's because there's a bunch of young CB's out there that are good in free agency

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

The entire OL outside Pouncey and Albert are an utter failure. James, Thomas, Turner, and Douglas are all liabilities. Our drafting of OL has been abysmal at best. Same can be said in regards to CB. Always looking for a diamond in the rough at a small school. None of them can cover anyone without holding. Then we sign Grimes to a big contract and he's almost collecting social security. Oh yeah, and we trade away half our picks to move up and grab Dion Jordan.

I wish we could bring back Jimmy Johnson and give him 3 yrs to build a team!

D. Jordan was a huge mistake, especially when Lance Johnson was sitting there for the taking.

 

[Zbrod95]

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

It not about a star player it's about getting a quantity of good players, even if you have to pass up Vernon Hargreaves so you can trade down or take an LB because you signed good players at is position. Look at the Cardinals, the only person IMO you can make a case that are superstars are tyrann Mathieu and Patrick Peterson and if you want to consider Carson and Fitz a superstar then ok, but everyone else is just good

I think Calias Campbell is a super star as well, but point taken. Jimmy Johnson made a living trading down and getting more quality players. Problem is, most guys suck at it. We can trade down again and again, but if we end up with more subpar players you have what we have now....

Well FYI, Chris Grier is one of the most highly thought of people in scouting and learned from his father who's a legend and both were there at the start of the Pats dynasty so we have the right person to do it

 

[marshallrc13]

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

The entire OL outside Pouncey and Albert are an utter failure. James, Thomas, Turner, and Douglas are all liabilities. Our drafting of OL has been abysmal at best. Same can be said in regards to CB. Always looking for a diamond in the rough at a small school. None of them can cover anyone without holding. Then we sign Grimes to a big contract and he's almost collecting social security. Oh yeah, and we trade away half our picks to move up and grab Dion Jordan.

I wish we could bring back Jimmy Johnson and give him 3 yrs to build a team!

D. Jordan was a huge mistake, especially when Lance Johnson was sitting there for the taking.

Lance Johnson, Sheldon Richardson, Star Lotulelei, Eric Reid, Deandre Hopkins to name a few. Our front office SUCKED...

 

[marshallrc13]

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

It not about a star player it's about getting a quantity of good players, even if you have to pass up Vernon Hargreaves so you can trade down or take an LB because you signed good players at is position. Look at the Cardinals, the only person IMO you can make a case that are superstars are tyrann Mathieu and Patrick Peterson and if you want to consider Carson and Fitz a superstar then ok, but everyone else is just good

I think Calias Campbell is a super star as well, but point taken. Jimmy Johnson made a living trading down and getting more quality players. Problem is, most guys suck at it. We can trade down again and again, but if we end up with more subpar players you have what we have now....

Well FYI, Chris Grier is one of the most highly thought of people in scouting and learned from his father who's a legend and both were there at the start of the Pats dynasty so we have the right person to do it

I hope so! He's got some work to do thanks to his predecessors.

 

[Canesfan1899]

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

The entire OL outside Pouncey and Albert are an utter failure. James, Thomas, Turner, and Douglas are all liabilities. Our drafting of OL has been abysmal at best. Same can be said in regards to CB. Always looking for a diamond in the rough at a small school. None of them can cover anyone without holding. Then we sign Grimes to a big contract and he's almost collecting social security. Oh yeah, and we trade away half our picks to move up and grab Dion Jordan.

I wish we could bring back Jimmy Johnson and give him 3 yrs to build a team!

D. Jordan was a huge mistake, especially when Lance Johnson was sitting there for the taking.

Lance Johnson, Sheldon Richardson, Star Lotulelei, Eric Reid, Deandre Hopkins to name a few. Our front office SUCKED...

I brought up Johnson because our OL issues would be far less concerning with him.

 

[Zbrod95]

But you're going to have to pay for Jenkins where you can get a kid in the first round and not pay them as much. We are in salary cap **** and unless they can restructure Tannehill or Suh we are going to have to rely on the draft address most needs instead of FA.

Here's the thing if we get Casy Heyward, Brandon Boykin, or Janoris we know what we're getting at a position that is one of the hardest to predict who translates to the NFL. That's why I didn't want to bring back Olivier Vernon, not only is this the deepest DL class in 10 years but it's one of the easiest positions to predict plus you have Chris long, JPP, and William Hayes who are going to be cheaper than him and we can draft a guy like Charles tapper and jihad ward in the 2nd/3rd round, **** maybe even Emmanuel ogbah or Kevin Dodd because of how good the DT's are this year but everyone is so quick to pay a guy who's only had 29 sacks in 64 games...with the best pure pass rushing end in football on the other side

I don't entirely disagree with your logic, but I have a hard time passing up on a CB that could be a top tier player. Agree we can get DE later in the draft so Vernon may be allowed to move on, but we need CB and LB's in the worst way. We also need to address the interior of the OL and possibly RT is James can't stay healthy.

The entire OL outside Pouncey and Albert are an utter failure. James, Thomas, Turner, and Douglas are all liabilities. Our drafting of OL has been abysmal at best. Same can be said in regards to CB. Always looking for a diamond in the rough at a small school. None of them can cover anyone without holding. Then we sign Grimes to a big contract and he's almost collecting social security. Oh yeah, and we trade away half our picks to move up and grab Dion Jordan.

I wish we could bring back Jimmy Johnson and give him 3 yrs to build a team!

D. Jordan was a huge mistake, especially when Lance Johnson was sitting there for the taking.

lance Johnson isn't any better than jawun, idk what makes you thinks he's a liabilty because when Brandon was out he was the only reason there wasn't a free for all to Thill what you should be upset about is that they passed on Ziggy Ansah, Chance warmack, DJ Fluker, Sheldon Richardson, Star lotulelei, Eric Reid, Kyle long, Tyler Eifert, Desmond Trufant, Xavier Rhoades, DeAndre Hopkins, Alec Ogletree, and Travis Frederick because they didn't trade down to fill more needs because they wanted a "top tier" player. All those guys are pro bowlers or pretty good starters on their teams and weren't expected to be superstars outside of Ziggy and I believe Sheldon

 

[DustinD28]

Titans sign Brice Mccain.

Is he good?

 

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Titans sign Brice Mccain.

Is he good?

Not really. I suppose he's ok in the slot, but early in the year the Fins put him out on the boundary, and he flat got torched. He was more serviceable later in the year, but nobody wanted him back with the Fins, and the Fins are desperate for CB help. And he wasn't making that much when they cut him.