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wspcane said:
It's not at all. You sit there and talk about the Imperialist US from 70 years ago and how awful Israel is for giving aid. And then in the same breath have no issue with China using its loan program to essentially take over Africa and the developing world by acting like a Mafia payday loan shark. Or in other words, acting like an Imperialist nation in modern, present day times. I wonder what the difference is between China and the US or Israel to you.

And @Tetragrammaton Cane ... I see you too. Go do some research about where China is doing its predatory practices and you may sing a different tune from your uneducated downvote.
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I didn't say a word about China you did. And i never said Israel is giving aid is awful. You're all wound up trying to put words in peoples mouths.
 
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TheMatador said:
When they took out the Iranian and Syrian reactors did the consult/notify the U.S.?

Not sure—I might have read it but don’t remember. In the case of Syria, they might have done it against wishes of Condoleeza Rice but can’t remember for sure.
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Yes on both, especially when they were killing Iranian nuclear scientists and taking out reactors. Mossad was in constant contact with the CIA and MI6. .

With regards to Syria, I dont know if it was against her wishes....but she was definitely notified before hand. The easiest way for Israel to lose the money they get from the US is for Israel to start blowing s**t up for s**ts and giggles.
 
CFLCane said:
I didn't say a word about China you did. And i never said Israel is giving aid is awful. You're all wound up trying to put words in peoples mouths.
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I said Israel gave aid. You called them Imperialists for doing so.

I brought up China only to show you are full of it and wouldn't call their tactics imperialistic, which they clearly are. And you proved me right. You hold the US, Israel and other western countries to one standard and are ok with China trying to accomplish the same goals. That was the point.

I look forward to China and the other neighboring Muslim countries sending aid to Lebanon. Again, I am done with this conversation.
 
Salt said:
Not sure about all that, but I do know it's an administration not trying to run the country off a Marxist cliff unlike Barry's or his white uncle, Joe
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Salt said:
Not sure about all that, but I do know it's an administration not trying to run the country off a Marxist cliff unlike Barry's or his white uncle, Joe.
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So what makes you think Joe is gonna do any of this? Did Obama?

I remember trump taking over during a pretty decent time in the economy. Didnt have to right the wrongs of two terms of marxist manifesto? Or did I miss that?
 
I've literally said on this board numerous times about how trumps trade war has only accelerated china's imperialistic plans. You can look it up. Assume less.
wspcane said:
I said Israel gave aid. You called them Imperialists for doing so.

I brought up China only to show you are full of it and wouldn't call their tactics imperialistic, which they clearly are. And you proved me right. You hold the US, Israel and other western countries to one standard and are ok with China trying to accomplish the same goals. That was the point.

I look forward to China and the other neighboring Muslim countries sending aid to Lebanon. Again, I am done with this conversation.
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5ringshowboutu said:
And that was before we had to re-bail out farmers.
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CFLCane said:
I've literally said on this board numerous times about how trumps trade war has only accelerated china's imperialistic plans. You can look it up. Assume less.
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You mean China was all this time systematically and methodically furthering their imperialistic plans right under the noses of prior administrations until Trump blew the lid off?

Sounds about right.
 
5ringshowboutu said:
So what makes you think Joe is gonna do any of this? Did Obama?

I remember trump taking over during a pretty decent time in the economy. Didnt have to right the wrongs of two terms of marxist manifesto? Or did I miss that?
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Obama ran into the Tea Party in congress. And Sleepy Joe needs to have the Bernie Bros and the AOC fanatical groupies to breathe life into the nostrils of his "Night Of The Living Dead" campaign. They will want something in return.

And if Tetrasticles doesn't down vote this post, I will feel very unaccomplished.
 
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Salt said:
You mean China was all this time systematically and methodically furthering their imperialistic plans right under the noses of prior administrations until Trump blew the lid off?

Sounds about right.
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I watched it first hand in my line of work. Within 3 months china established transshipping and processing facilities in neighboring nations. This was for billions of lbs of base metals. It only took them 3 months to subvert tariffs. It's great trump called them out on it but he's still playing checkers with ray charles glasses on.
 
CFLCane said:
I watched it first hand in my line of work. Within 3 months china established transshipping and processing facilities in neighboring nations. This was for billions of lbs of base metals. It only took them 3 months to subvert tariffs. It's great trump called them out on it but he's still playing checkers with ray charles glasses on.
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How long did it take Cubans to figure out all you had to do was fly to Mexico, then Cuba when there was a travel ban?

It's usually about making a show and inconveniencing, not eliminating.
 
JD08 said:
How long did it take Cubans to figure out all you had to do was fly to Mexico, then Cuba when there was a travel ban?

It's usually about making a show and inconveniencing, not eliminating.
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I get that but the "inconveniencing" wasn't an inconvenience. It's increased their influence and spread the pollution from raw processing to neighboring countries. The pollution part they've been working on the last decade, this was an acceleration of those plans.
 
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Salt said:
Obama ran into the Tea Party in congress. And Sleepy Joe needs to have the Bernie Bros and the AOC fanatical groupies to breathe life into the nostrils of his "Night Of The Living Dead" campaign. They will want something in return.

And if Tetrasticles doesn't down vote this post, I will feel very unaccomplished.
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So the republican party under Obama was strong and could oppose the radical left and the Republicans under trump......marxist manifesto!
 
CFLCane said:
I get that but the "inconveniencing" wasn't an inconvenience. It's increased their influence and spread the pollution from raw processing to neighboring countries. The pollution part they've been working on the last decade, this was an acceleration of those plans.
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To a point, but they can't outsource pollution any better than we could. It will catch up.
 
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