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Only Mario is to Blame

kyle_schick said:
Some people have brains, and can realize that Mario won't be able to pull in a good QB, a good QB Coach, a good OC, and a modern offensive Scheme.

These failures will result in poor records.

After watching his Miami teams play for 2 seasons now, do you really think it's going to get better next year?

There is literally nothing to suggest we will be better next year.

Year 1 was 5-7 including a 4-OT win against a bottom feeder.

This year will be 6-7 including 2 OT wins against bottom feeders.

Both seasons are essentially 4-8 wastes.

Next year will be the same but keep defending Mario.
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Dude has marios ball slaw all around his mouth.
 
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OrangeBowlMagic said:
"there is no recruiting class that will save us from this" is false. Or could be false. It's not a fact.

UGA was awesome on offense this year with Mike Bobo coordinating it. He is literally a bozo, and it's not because his last name is similar. Dude flat-out sucks and has proven it at every stop of his career, bar none.

Except when provided with obscene talent via Spermy Fart's recruiting (shoutout @The Franchise).

So yeah, Mario might be a dunce on gameday. Surely hasn't proven he isn't, thus far. But this post is a little too much doom and gloom. There's a chance Miami can field a truly elite offense with Mario as the Head Coach, and the path to that is via the way he recruits. Coaching is certainly very important, but over time, Jimmy's and Joe's will ALWAYS >>>> X's and O's at this level. Maybe not play to play or quarter to quarter, but year to year, it rings true. Alabama is good literally every single season, and it's not because of Nick Saban or their OCs. ****, he was about to hire Dan Penos. He hired Tommy Rees. The common denominator is he has the best players.
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How long until that happens?
 
What does “generates negative value” mean? Is it entirely subjective like a PFF grade? Or what?
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
"there is no recruiting class that will save us from this" is false. Or could be false. It's not a fact.

UGA was awesome on offense this year with Mike Bobo coordinating it. He is literally a bozo, and it's not because his last name is similar. Dude flat-out sucks and has proven it at every stop of his career, bar none.

Except when provided with obscene talent via Spermy Fart's recruiting (shoutout @The Franchise).

So yeah, Mario might be a dunce on gameday. Surely hasn't proven he isn't, thus far. But this post is a little too much doom and gloom. There's a chance Miami can field a truly elite offense with Mario as the Head Coach, and the path to that is via the way he recruits. Coaching is certainly very important, but over time, Jimmy's and Joe's will ALWAYS >>>> X's and O's at this level. Maybe not play to play or quarter to quarter, but year to year, it rings true. Alabama is good literally every single season, and it's not because of Nick Saban or their OCs. ****, he was about to hire Dan Penos. He hired Tommy Rees. The common denominator is he has the best players.
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Can u name a game where we didn’t have the best players outside of Clemson 2023 since Mario has been here?

Also, it’s worth noting OP provided these analytics not just from his time here, but at UO, as well. So I ask the same ?, can u name a season from 2018-2021 where UO didn’t have the best players on their team based upon their schedule?
 
JustWin said:
What does “generates negative value” mean? Is it entirely subjective like a PFF grade? Or what?
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No, it’s the opposite. It’s purely stat driven.

Now the formula itself is subjective to the extent the creator of it must put a certain level of emphasis on one category compared to another.

But PFF is a scout entirely analyzing plays based on that scout’s subjective eyes and saying, “that was a turnover worthy throw.”
 
mossmadness said:
No, it’s the opposite. It’s purely stat driven.

Now the formula itself is subjective to the extent the creator of it must put a certain level of emphasis on one category compared to another.

But PFF is a scout entirely analyzing plays based on that scout’s subjective eyes and saying, “that was a turnover worthy throw.”
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Do you know the stats that the formula is based on? Or can you point me in a direction to find where you found the information. That’s cool that football is getting better stats.
 
Honestly no one is to blame

You can see the summit but you can't reach it
It's the last piece of the puzzle but you just can't make it fit
Doctor says you're cured but you still feel the pain
Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down the drain

😎😂
 
Rellyrell said:
Can u name a game where we didn’t have the best players outside of Clemson 2023 since Mario has been here?

Also, it’s worth noting OP provided these analytics not just from his time here, but at UO, as well. So I ask the same ?, can u name a season from 2018-2021 where UO didn’t have the best players on their team based upon their schedule?
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According to Athlons, last year:
UNC and A&M, with Clemson

This year:
A&M with Clemson.

Both years FSU when you consider the portal players and who played a good portion of those games at QB.

No excuses, just offering an answer to your question.
 
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NJshoreCane said:
According to Athlons, last year:
UNC and A&M, with Clemson

This year:
A&M with Clemson.

Both years FSU when you consider the portal players and who played a good portion of those games at QB.

No excuses, just offering an answer to your question.
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A&M yes, Clemson, yes. UNC & FSU, I wouldn’t agree w/ that, but I could see their reasoning, particularly w/ FSU.

But let’s use this answer as a guideline, and it’s fair:

That means, at a minimum, in 2022 we should’ve been 8-4 in year 1 (Regular Season) & 10-3 year 2 (Regular Season) if talent vs. teams on schedule was the issue.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
"there is no recruiting class that will save us from this" is false. Or could be false. It's not a fact.

UGA was awesome on offense this year with Mike Bobo coordinating it. He is literally a bozo, and it's not because his last name is similar. Dude flat-out sucks and has proven it at every stop of his career, bar none.

Except when provided with obscene talent via Spermy Fart's recruiting (shoutout @The Franchise).

So yeah, Mario might be a dunce on gameday. Surely hasn't proven he isn't, thus far. But this post is a little too much doom and gloom. There's a chance Miami can field a truly elite offense with Mario as the Head Coach, and the path to that is via the way he recruits. Coaching is certainly very important, but over time, Jimmy's and Joe's will ALWAYS >>>> X's and O's at this level. Maybe not play to play or quarter to quarter, but year to year, it rings true. Alabama is good literally every single season, and it's not because of Nick Saban or their OCs. ****, he was about to hire Dan Penos. He hired Tommy Rees. The common denominator is he has the best players.
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Best players or not.. you ain’t winning it all without great coaching. OSU recruits right behind them and barely make the playoffs. Look at this year’s championship game and it proves that coaching matters. Last years ship game also (TCU made it ffs). Miami itself is the only example you need to know you need good coaching. We have always had top 15 talent but don’t develop them and don’t put them in positions to ball out. Our culture has also been ****ed.. all of that is directly affected by coaching. That’s why we cannot beat teams in the ACC full of two and 3 star guys year in and year out!
 
Rellyrell said:
A&M yes, Clemson, yes. UNC & FSU, I wouldn’t agree w/ that, but I could see their reasoning, particularly w/ FSU.

But let’s use this answer as a guideline, and it’s fair:

That means, at a minimum, in 2022 we should’ve been 8-4 in year 1 (Regular Season) & 10-3 year 2 (Regular Season) if talent vs. teams on schedule was the issue.
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Yes, I agree.
I know teams get caught and upsets happen, but If we put it another way, Mario gets “caught” every other game vs teams with less talent.
That is an issue.
 
Ispyin said:
Honestly no one is to blame

You can see the summit but you can't reach it
It's the last piece of the puzzle but you just can't make it fit
Doctor says you're cured but you still feel the pain
Aspirations in the clouds but your hopes go down the drain

😎😂
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11 year old me says thanks for the trip back to the good old days.
 
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NJshoreCane said:
According to Athlons, last year:
UNC and A&M, with Clemson

This year:
A&M with Clemson.

Both years FSU when you consider the portal players and who played a good portion of those games at QB.

No excuses, just offering an answer to your question.
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Consider portal players in building out a roster....

Tell CIS more about this....
 
Angry Ibis said:
Consider portal players in building out a roster....

Tell CIS more about this....
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Yes, I’ve heard of this so-called portal :ROFLMAO:

I was replying to another post regarding rosters as configured.
Failure to configure a roster and complimenting with portal players is another issue.

If you saying we haven’t done enough of this, I agree with you.
 
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NJshoreCane said:
Yes, I’ve heard of this so-called portal :ROFLMAO:

I was replying to another post regarding rosters as configured.
Failure to configure a roster and complimenting with portal players is another issue.

If you saying we haven’t done enough of this, I agree with you.
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We’re good man. CIS has been a “portal denier” at times because Mario has been slower to embrace the portal attack, so because of that and someone like Memphis Mike using it, MariBros get spun around…

As Mario and the roster acquisition puzzle adapts, MariBros are left searching for context, process and culture to keep them snug and warm ….
 
mossmadness said:
Mario took over Oregon in 2018.

According to F+ analytics, these are the number of games in which Oregon’s offense received a NEGATIVE value generated rating under Mario:

2018 (with Justin Herbert at QB): 6 games including 2 games with negative value scores over 20, which is insane.

2019 (Herbert): 5 games

2020: 3 games (COVID meant only 7 games that year)

2021: 5 games (when the roster was stacked with Mario recruits)

2022: 8 games

2023: 5 games (counting NC St and we still have plenty to go).


Basically, almost half the games Mario coaches every year generates negative offensive value.

Does Dawson suck? Yes. I called him the “Destroyer of Offenses” in the coaching search thread for a reason. Does TVD suck? Yes.

But those two haven’t been the OC-QB combo the entire time.

Mario is the only common denominator.

Stop listening to anybody that tells you Mario doesn’t interfere in the offense. Or Mario doesn’t have a preferred style. Or that what Mario has done is what the big boys do and this is the offense that UGA and champions run.

There is no QB that is going to save us from this. There is no recruiting class that is going to save us from this. There is no OC that is going to save us from this.

Life under Mario will be a minimum of at least 5 games a year where the offense will produce a negative value. We will flip a coin as to whether we win those games. And that’s how you lose 2 to 5 games a year, depending on how the coin falls.
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Let’s start the tally again.

Through the 6 games Miami has played that have a rating in 2025, 3 of them have a NEGATIVE offensive value rating so far.

SMU is not in yet but it’s obvious the offense will get a negative value rating.

So that that’s 4/7 with a negative value generated.

Mario’s career record is 8 in 2022.
Followed by 6 with Justin Herbert at QB in 2018.

He’s 100% going to at least tie 2018.
 
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