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Only 5 commits in 2015 class among Top 25 in Dade & Broward

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Dade County

1. Jaquan Johnson
20. Robert Knowles

Mark Walton was not listed in these rankings since he was viewed as a 2016 recruit at the time, but it goes without saying that he's an elite talent from Dade.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-miami-dade/article1982555.html

Broward County

1. Jordan Scarlett
23. Richard McIntosh

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-broward/article1982525.html

Basically three elite recruits and two other solid gets. Meanwhile, look at the players who aren't coming to Miami from both counties. And to preemptively address the nauseating "we only want kids who want to be Canes" crowd, go f*** yourselves.

Dade County

2. Da'Vante Phillips - Staff worked hard to try to land him, but he unsurprisingly committed to FSU.
3. Davante Davis - One of 3 CBs this staff wanted the most, but he's committed to Texas. Might flip to Auburn.
4. Tim Irvin - Once viewed as a heavy Cane lean who wanted to play with Jaquan Johnson in college. Despises Paul Williams. Headed to Auburn.
5. Carlton Davis - Admitted in an interview that this staff's questionable track record of player development and infrequent utilization of press coverage steered him away from UM. Even apologized for not committing to his hometown school.
7. Jordan Cronkrite - Most won't complain if we end up with Scarlett & Walton at RB, but the staff lied to this kid repeatedly and supposedly/unfairly treated him like dirt. Decommitted.
8. Rashad Fenton - Fans have been screaming for months that we needed to pursue Fenton. Staff felt otherwise. He may now end up at Auburn, UF, or FSU. Offered by UM a week and a half before NSD.
9. Antonio Callaway - May end up here, which would be great. Taking an OV to UF this weekend, though.
19. Devonaire Clarington - Once a heavy UM lean, but he's a potential NCAA Clearinghouse nightmare. Headed elsewhere and likely wouldn't have made it in.

Broward County

2. Torrance Gibson - Taking OV here this weekend, but it would take nothing short of a miracle to land him.
3. Calvin Ridley - Was considered a heavy UM lean a year ago at this time. Headed to Bama.
4. Tarvarus McFadden - Staff technically offered, but they didn't prioritize him or recruit him very much at all. Good enough for FSU, though.
5. Shawn Burgess-Becker - See Calvin Ridley.
6. Tyrek Cole - Off-field issues, apparently.
11. Sh’mar Kilby-Lane - We're incredibly thin at LB, but he was never interested. Committed to FSU.
12. Ronnie Hoggins - Golden/D'Onofrio/Williams never offered.
17. Rashard Causey - Golden/D'Onofrio/Williams never offered.
19. Rodrick Archer - No offer, despite missing on several top LB targets.
24. Richie Cooper - No offer for a talented player, but no one would complain if we end up with Chatman/Cager/Callaway at WR.
25. Adrienne Talan - A board favorite who won't be offered.

As you can see, this isn't just an issue of the staff being unable to land anywhere near enough premier homegrown talent. And it's not just an issue of the staff making former UM leans sour on the program. Neglecting certain UM-caliber players from our own backyard is another major factor behind our staggering lack of success in Dade & Broward this year. No better example than the Fenton situation.

This is an average, at best, class (currently 23rd on 247, for those who care about rankings) that doesn't seem to be in store for a strong finish, especially considering today's news about Marcus Lewis and what that means for our two-year CB haul. Having a grand total of 5 commits among the Top 25 in Dade & Broward is beyond unacceptable.
 
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Good breakdown 01 and depressing at the same time.



*James Bowe should be in top 25 for Dade for 2015.



I'm sure Blu will be coming out with an updated Post-season one.
 
So the staff that can't coach...can't recruit either.

Good times. Totally merited that he's being brought back for a lame duck season.
 
Jedi Master Cane said:
So the staff that can't coach...can't recruit either.

Good times. Totally merited that he's being brought back for a lame duck season.
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And people think they can recruit, that 2016 class will not look like the way it does now I promise that. They should be cleaning up every year in dade and broward, then worry about OOs kid. ***** stupid *** dudes coaching.
 
01Canes said:
Dade County

1. Jaquan Johnson
20. Robert Knowles

Mark Walton was not listed in these rankings since he was viewed as a 2016 recruit at the time, but it goes without saying that he's an elite talent from Dade.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-miami-dade/article1982555.html

Broward County

1. Jordan Scarlett
23. Richard McIntosh

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-broward/article1982525.html

Basically three elite recruits and two other solid gets. Meanwhile, look at the players who aren't coming to Miami from both counties. And to preemptively address the nauseating "we only want kids who want to be Canes" crowd, go f*** yourselves.

Dade County

2. Da'Vante Phillips - Staff worked hard to try to land him, but he unsurprisingly committed to FSU.
3. Davante Davis - One of 3 CBs this staff wanted the most, but he's committed to Texas. Might flip to Auburn.
4. Tim Irvin - Once viewed as a heavy Cane lean who wanted to play with Jaquan Johnson in college. Despises Paul Williams. Headed to Auburn.
5. Carlton Davis - Admitted in an interview that this staff's questionable track record of player development and infrequent utilization of press coverage steered him away from UM. Even apologized for not committing to his hometown school.
7. Jordan Cronkrite - Most won't complain if we end up with Scarlett & Walton at RB, but the staff lied to this kid repeatedly and supposedly/unfairly treated him like dirt. Decommitted.
8. Rashad Fenton - Fans have been screaming for months that we needed to pursue Fenton. Staff felt otherwise. He may now end up at Auburn, UF, or FSU. Offered by UM a week and a half before NSD.
9. Antonio Callaway - May end up here, which would be great. Taking an OV to UF this weekend, though.
19. Devonaire Clarington - Once a heavy UM lean, but he's a potential NCAA Clearinghouse nightmare. Headed elsewhere and likely wouldn't have made it in.

Broward County

2. Torrance Gibson - Taking OV here this weekend, but it would take nothing short of a miracle to land him.
3. Calvin Ridley - Was considered a heavy UM lean a year ago at this time. Headed to Bama.
4. Tarvarus McFadden - Staff technically offered, but they didn't prioritize him or recruit him very much at all. Good enough for FSU, though.
5. Shawn Burgess-Becker - See Calvin Ridley.
6. Tyrek Cole - Off-field issues, apparently.
11. Sh’mar Kilby-Lane - We're incredibly thin at LB, but he was never interested. Committed to FSU.
12. Ronnie Hoggins - Golden/D'Onofrio/Williams never offered.
17. Rashard Causey - Golden/D'Onofrio/Williams never offered.
19. Rodrick Archer - No offer, despite missing on several top LB targets.
24. Richie Cooper - No offer for a talented player, but no one would complain if we end up with Chatman/Cager/Callaway at WR.
25. Adrienne Talan - A board favorite who won't be offered.

As you can see, this isn't just an issue of the staff being unable to land anywhere near enough premier homegrown talent. And it's not just an issue of the staff making former UM leans sour on the program. Neglecting certain UM-caliber players from our own backyard is another major factor behind our staggering lack of success in Dade & Broward this year. No better example than the Fenton situation.

This is an average, at best, class (currently 23rd on 247, for those who care about rankings) that doesn't seem to be in store for a strong finish, especially considering today's news about Marcus Lewis and what that means for our two-year CB haul. Having a grand total of 5 commits among the Top 25 in Dade & Broward is beyond unacceptable.
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Why don't you wait until after NSD before complaining about the talent we get. You can't label players with "NCAA Clearinghouse nightmare", "likely wouldn't have made it in", and "off field issues" and then complain when the coaches didn't offer or didn't waste their time with said players. You bash the players and then bash the coaches for not recruiting them just to try and prove a point.

Come on man, enough of the negative nancy stuff! We just wrapped up an abysmal 6-7 season with one of the most talented rosters in the ACC. Be content with the players who are committed and have chosen to represent "THE U" for the next 3-4 years.

Not sure when our fan base will realize that not all the kids that grow up in the Miami/Dade area want to stay and play football here, much less spend the next 3-4 years of their lives here. IMHO, with the current state of our program, there are more reasons for kids to test the waters elsewhere than to stay at home.
 
Cane Fan 4 Life said:
01Canes said:
Dade County

1. Jaquan Johnson
20. Robert Knowles

Mark Walton was not listed in these rankings since he was viewed as a 2016 recruit at the time, but it goes without saying that he's an elite talent from Dade.

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-miami-dade/article1982555.html

Broward County

1. Jordan Scarlett
23. Richard McIntosh

http://www.miamiherald.com/sports/high-school/prep-broward/article1982525.html

Basically three elite recruits and two other solid gets. Meanwhile, look at the players who aren't coming to Miami from both counties. And to preemptively address the nauseating "we only want kids who want to be Canes" crowd, go f*** yourselves.

Dade County

2. Da'Vante Phillips - Staff worked hard to try to land him, but he unsurprisingly committed to FSU.
3. Davante Davis - One of 3 CBs this staff wanted the most, but he's committed to Texas. Might flip to Auburn.
4. Tim Irvin - Once viewed as a heavy Cane lean who wanted to play with Jaquan Johnson in college. Despises Paul Williams. Headed to Auburn.
5. Carlton Davis - Admitted in an interview that this staff's questionable track record of player development and infrequent utilization of press coverage steered him away from UM. Even apologized for not committing to his hometown school.
7. Jordan Cronkrite - Most won't complain if we end up with Scarlett & Walton at RB, but the staff lied to this kid repeatedly and supposedly/unfairly treated him like dirt. Decommitted.
8. Rashad Fenton - Fans have been screaming for months that we needed to pursue Fenton. Staff felt otherwise. He may now end up at Auburn, UF, or FSU. Offered by UM a week and a half before NSD.
9. Antonio Callaway - May end up here, which would be great. Taking an OV to UF this weekend, though.
19. Devonaire Clarington - Once a heavy UM lean, but he's a potential NCAA Clearinghouse nightmare. Headed elsewhere and likely wouldn't have made it in.

Broward County

2. Torrance Gibson - Taking OV here this weekend, but it would take nothing short of a miracle to land him.
3. Calvin Ridley - Was considered a heavy UM lean a year ago at this time. Headed to Bama.
4. Tarvarus McFadden - Staff technically offered, but they didn't prioritize him or recruit him very much at all. Good enough for FSU, though.
5. Shawn Burgess-Becker - See Calvin Ridley.
6. Tyrek Cole - Off-field issues, apparently.
11. Sh’mar Kilby-Lane - We're incredibly thin at LB, but he was never interested. Committed to FSU.
12. Ronnie Hoggins - Golden/D'Onofrio/Williams never offered.
17. Rashard Causey - Golden/D'Onofrio/Williams never offered.
19. Rodrick Archer - No offer, despite missing on several top LB targets.
24. Richie Cooper - No offer for a talented player, but no one would complain if we end up with Chatman/Cager/Callaway at WR.
25. Adrienne Talan - A board favorite who won't be offered.

As you can see, this isn't just an issue of the staff being unable to land anywhere near enough premier homegrown talent. And it's not just an issue of the staff making former UM leans sour on the program. Neglecting certain UM-caliber players from our own backyard is another major factor behind our staggering lack of success in Dade & Broward this year. No better example than the Fenton situation.

This is an average, at best, class (currently 23rd on 247, for those who care about rankings) that doesn't seem to be in store for a strong finish, especially considering today's news about Marcus Lewis and what that means for our two-year CB haul. Having a grand total of 5 commits among the Top 25 in Dade & Broward is beyond unacceptable.
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Why don't you wait until after NSD before complaining about the talent we get. You can't label players with "NCAA Clearinghouse nightmare", "likely wouldn't have made it in", and "off field issues" and then complain when the coaches didn't offer or didn't waste their time with said players. You bash the players and then bash the coaches for not recruiting them just to try and prove a point.

Come on man, enough of the negative nancy stuff! We just wrapped up an abysmal 6-7 season with one of the most talented rosters in the ACC. Be content with the players who are committed and have chosen to represent "THE U" for the next 3-4 years.

Not sure when our fan base will realize that not all the kids that grow up in the Miami/Dade area want to stay and play football here, much less spend the next 3-4 years of their lives here. IMHO, with the current state of our program, there are more reasons for kids to test the waters elsewhere than to stay at home.
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Just being fair and balanced with those comments. Not putting any blame on the staff for not ending up with Cole or Clarington and specifically cited the reasoning for that. There are countless other examples, though, where the staff dropped the ball or simply didn't get results.

Be content with an average class? No, thanks. Our greatest built-in advantage as a program is location because of our phenomenal recruiting base. We're clearly not taking advantage of that because of this staff's repeated failures.

The entire point of recruiting is to convince top talent to sign with your program. The Duke Johnson types who commit because they love Miami, never waver, and never take visits elsewhere represent 0.00000001% of the talent pool. Just like with on-field outcomes, recruiting is a win or loss business. If you can't get the job done, you need to be shown the door. Period.
 
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I just hope (I don't know why, I know better) that the writers in South Florida really press Golden on this **** and remind him of all the crap he spewed his first year about not understanding why Miami only had X kids from South Florida, etc. I hope they ask him the question so many times that he has to stop the press conference.
 
01 imagine a world where we actually have 16 of those names youve listed and then awaken to the nightmare of reality when you figure out that those named are virtually give me's and a decent lands them by early and often contact and making staff changes when necessary.
 
These posters are like flies regurgitating the same post over and over again... Perform a f'ing search before creating the same chit again.
 
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CoachCane said:
Canefam said:
These posters are like flies regurgitating the same post over and over again... Perform a f'ing search before creating the same chit again.
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They must have no life i swear over and over and over
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And you two Superfans respond with the same, "All is well, " cheerleader schtick. So the cycle continues. Coach Cane is on his 15th different account so I guess you both have just as little life as the people you're criticizing.
 
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