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One area of major improvement for TVD

DMoney said:
He is shredding pressure. Pittsburgh sent several blitzes his way and he threw right at them. Against UNC and UVA, he was 3-13 for ten yards and a pick under pressure. The past two games, he is 10-16 for 164 yards with three TDs.

TVD is excellent in his preparation and now he has experience. Couple that with the physical tools, and we are seeing rapid progress.
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Not to be a Debbie downer but what does this mean for Garcia? I want to keep that kid, is TVD on a trajectory where he can go pro after next season?
 
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DMoney said:
He is shredding pressure. Pittsburgh sent several blitzes his way and he threw right at them. Against UNC and UVA, he was 3-13 for ten yards and a pick under pressure. The past two games, he is 10-16 for 164 yards with three TDs.

TVD is excellent in his preparation and now he has experience. Couple that with the physical tools, and we are seeing rapid progress.
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Now lets be real... who gets the credit here? Could it be that he is being coached up?
 
DMoney said:
He is shredding pressure. Pittsburgh sent several blitzes his way and he threw right at them. Against UNC and UVA, he was 3-13 for ten yards and a pick under pressure. The past two games, he is 10-16 for 164 yards with three TDs.

TVD is excellent in his preparation and now he has experience. Couple that with the physical tools, and we are seeing rapid progress.
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If you look at the play calling against UVA and UNC especially in the 1st half, Lashlee handcuffed TVD with rollouts to one side of the field making it easier for the defense and harder for TVD. Now, Lashlee took off the training wheels and the play calling is wide open. The field is open. TVD can manipulate the safties with his eyes. You can't do that when the OC cuts half the field off from you.
 
Liberty City El said:
I don’t buy this notion that Likens is all of the sudden calling plays now...

He’s been an OC at a P5 just two times in his career & in both instances he got fired after one season because both David Beaty & Herm Edwards were displeased with his play calling.

He’s a very good WR’s coach, but his history as an OC has not been pretty to say the least.
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I think the rumor was that Likens had some added influence on the offense as of late (not that he was actually calling the plays). He is pass game coordinator so I could see him being allowed to introduce some new route concepts which in my opinion were badly needed.

But yeah, cant imagine its not Lashlee calling the offense.
 
TVD is playing lights out as a Freshman, but we also have to give Lashlee some credit when it’s deserved. Play calling has improved dramatically. Once this offense and defense start clicking with the younger players, this team should be unstoppable
 
BigWindyCane1 said:
TVD is playing lights out as a Freshman, but we also have to give Lashlee some credit when it’s deserved. Play calling has improved dramatically. Once this offense and defense start clicking with the younger players, this team should be unstoppable
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Play calling is improved and more open cause he has a guy who can make all the throws. Your only as good as your talent u have at your disposal.
 
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Lashlee talked more today in his presser about how he has worked with TVD and really come to understand him as a QB since UNC. He said they went through the UNC film together, just the two of them, and he really got a sense of how TVD was thinking and what he saw on all his throws. He said it's helped him alot in putting together his offense and play calling. He also realized he was babying TVD too much and opened up the playbook.
 
Kaaya needed to in a straight up leach air raid. He wasn’t. He got smacked around and it hurt him. Although the last few games with richt he looked good. Shame he left early but it is what it is
 
SFbayCane said:
Quite frankly my next level of concern for him will be how he handles the waves of hype that the media will soon start dumping on him. His rise seems meteoric from a guy who looked lost in mop up time to a guy who is in total command of the offense and team. If that trajectory continues, I expect to start hearing his name be on the early 2022 hypesman trophy watch list. The off-field growth issues are tougher to gage than the on-field.
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I know there is a lot of division on the former player input to current players, but he has access to Ed Reed, Kosar, and Gino Toretta on how to handle the media hype and praise. Dorsey is currently a pretty busy guy, but these are the type of things that our former players can lend their experiences. Hopefully he gets to that level where he can be celebrated like that. He's definitely on the upward trajectory.
 
Dwinstitles said:
Play calling is improved and more open cause he has a guy who can make all the throws. Your only as good as your talent u have at your disposal.
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And guys who can catch those throws. TVD would have had a 50% completion rate with last year's receivers.

Lashlee isn't a top OC but he's pretty good overall, and they're clearly developing kids. I'm not necessarily against retaining him under the new head coach if that coach wants some stability. What we need more than anything is recruiting, recruiting, recruiting as TVD, Arroyo, Knighton, and the WRs are proving.
 
ajkreider said:
If he's Kaaya we should all do the happy dance, given our QB play for the last however many years.
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I want to say he’s already better than Kaaya especially at the same age but Kaaya never had the opportunity to play in a modern offense at Miami.
 
Hoyacane1620 said:
Lashlee talked more today in his presser about how he has worked with TVD and really come to understand him as a QB since UNC. He said they went through the UNC film together, just the two of them, and he really got a sense of how TVD was thinking and what he saw on all his throws. He said it's helped him alot in putting together his offense and play calling. He also realized he was babying TVD too much and opened up the playbook.
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And now our offense looks like the SMU offense with Buechele that got Lashlee the job here to start with. As good of a fit as King seemed to be.. it proved to be a forced fit that did more harm than good.

I wasn't a fan of Lashlee or Malzahn until Lashlee went to SMU and got exposed to some air raid principles in his passing attack under Dykes. That took it to another level because the hinderance of Malzahn's system is the simplicity of the passing game and the lack of creativity in route concepts.

King in a Dan Mullen offense, Briles offense, Kiffin offense, or a Heupel offense is a more natural fit. They do a lot more designed runs for the QB that favor King's ability.
 
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DTP said:
I want to say he’s already better than Kaaya especially at the same age but Kaaya never had the opportunity to play in a modern offense at Miami.
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Very true. The modern day QB still has to have more mobility than Kaaya ever had. He could have made it pretty well in a full on air raid under Leach or Jay Norvell or something. None of these modified systems meshing air raid with other concepts like what Riley, Briles, Dykes, etc are doing. Too reliant on QB mobility.

Pass first QBs are still the most lethal.. but you've got to have some kind of ability to keep it and move the pocket. Just like Matt Corral, TVD, Kyler Murray, etc etc.

The only one i can think that still defies that logic is Tom Brady. Manning could too but he was even a better runner than Kaaya when the defense gave it to him.
 
JayCane20 said:
Very true. The modern day QB still has to have more mobility than Kaaya ever had. He could have made it pretty well in a full on air raid under Leach or Jay Norvell or something. None of these modified systems meshing air raid with other concepts like what Riley, Briles, Dykes, etc are doing. Too reliant on QB mobility.

Pass first QBs are still the most lethal.. but you've got to have some kind of ability to keep it and move the pocket. Just like Matt Corral, TVD, Kyler Murray, etc etc.

The only one i can think that still defies that logic is Tom Brady. Manning could too but he was even a better runner than Kaaya when the defense gave it to him.
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I can only imagine TVD having to take seven step drops with slowly developing play action fakes with this offensive line. It would be ugly. And yeah, I think Kaaya could have had more success in a more quarterback friendly offense that would let him sit in the shotgun and sling it. Every once in a while he’d get the opportunity and would look great but for whatever reason, our OC, Coley or Richt would always revert back to what wasn’t working.
 
grover said:
And guys who can catch those throws. TVD would have had a 50% completion rate with last year's receivers.

Lashlee isn't a top OC but he's pretty good overall, and they're clearly developing kids. I'm not necessarily against retaining him under the new head coach if that coach wants some stability. What we need more than anything is recruiting, recruiting, recruiting as TVD, Arroyo, Knighton, and the WRs are proving.
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If we get another HC TVD might just be TVD...dude can play
 
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