On Josh Horton...

[DMoney]

That’s a pretty good list lol, good for him.

Not sure why more people aren’t concerned about our front 7. We have Moten who is just ok, an undersized Mesidor that is truly a DE, and then Scott can’t play more than 5 consecutive plays without getting winded from multiple spring reports. And after that? Nothing proven at all, like very far from it. We’re not even sure Scott is starting-caliber yet, not like he blew us away last year (albeit limited reps and a TF).

Edit: Blay too

ND will go belt to *** on our DL if we don’t start whale hunting in the next week at DT and LB.

We have four 5-star defensive linemen and some well-compensated veterans who need to perform. We’ve invested heavily in those players. Time to prove it.

Agreed we need more but there are 67 other P4 teams with the same problem. Georgia is smart to target a physically talented local kid like Horton at a buy-low deal. They did the same thing with Jaden Harris at DB.

 

[Canesfan1993]

The narratives being put out by beat writers is very telling. We went from "we're going for it this year and will go big fish hunting" to "we have enough and now guys just have to prove it. We just need a WR and some rotational guys." It shows this staff learned nothing from last year and are going to squander beck like we squandered ward. We wouldn't be in this position if the staff could evaluate talent especially on the defensive side of the ball. We negelected the secondary for 2 years and that cost us a legit playoff run last year with best qb in school history and a historic O. You have neglected LB and DT for multiple years and now you're planning on sticking to your guns and just add a guy or two. Worked great last year. They also did a **** poor job at qb recruiting for 3 years but lucked into ward and beck back to back and spent to fix the mistake. The LB room and DT position will cost you a shot at a special season again unless theres a course correction. Money is not unlimited but insanity is repeating your mistakes and expecting a different outcome.

 

[GrozDozer]

The narratives being put out by beat writers is very telling. We went from "we're going for it this year and will go big fish hunting" to "we have enough and now guys just have to prove it. We just need a WR and some rotational guys." It shows this staff learned nothing from last year and are going to squander beck like we squandered ward. We wouldn't be in this position if the staff could evaluate talent especially on the defensive side of the ball. We negelected the secondary for 2 years and that cost us a legit playoff run last year with best qb in school history and a historic O. You have neglected LB and DT for multiple years and now you're planning on sticking to your guns and just add a guy or two. Worked great last year. They also did a **** poor job at qb recruiting for 3 years but lucked into ward and beck back to back and spent to fix the mistake. The LB room and DT position will cost you a shot at a special season again unless theres a course correction. Money is not unlimited but insanity is repeating your mistakes and expecting a different outcome.

Literally this afternoon the beat writers said we were going to pursue one of the best LBs in the portal Andrew Simpson. It’s been open for one day. Calm your **** bud.

 

[TRick72]

We have four 5-star defensive linemen and some well-compensated veterans who need to perform. We’ve invested heavily in those players. Time to prove it.

Agreed we need more but there are 67 other P4 teams with the same problem. Georgia is smart to target a physically talented local kid like Horton at a buy-low deal. They did the same thing with Jaden Harris at DB.

Clever but we have 1 Five Star DT which is what the conversation is about and since we’re on the subject which are the 4 composite 5 star DL that you are referring too?

 

[grover]

Clever but we have 1 Five Star DT which is what the conversation is about and since we’re on the subject which are the 4 composite 5 star DL that you are referring too?

Blount, Lightfoot, Lowe and Scott. Only one is a DT.

 

[grover]

We have no issue at defensive end incredible depth there. And I really liked Rudolph. He just would never see the field given the talent he was competing against.

DT is a dumpster fire.

 

[DMoney]

Clever but we have 1 Five Star DT which is what the conversation is about and since we’re on the subject which are the 4 composite 5 star DL that you are referring too?

Scott, Blount, Lowe and Lightfoot. The first three are all big dudes who play inside and out. All four are elite recruits who cost a lot of money to sign. They need to perform, as does Blay who was the #2 DT in the Portal.

Everybody wants more big DL. There aren’t many good ones and they cost a ton. I wish we had 10 of them, but this is the real world and there is competition for limited resources.

 

[TRick72]

Blount, Lightfoot, Lowe and Scott. Only one is a DT.

Lowe is not a composite 5 star

 

[The Sphinx]

You have to make money appear out of nowhere? That seems difficult.
I could see leaning to getting top WR and top DT if it meant we don't get LB or S.. but there is ZERO CHANCE there isn't tradeoffs happening. WR and DT are two of the most expensive position in football, period. LB and S are likely two of the relatively cheaper positions. The "mid WR" is likely still costing more than a high starting level S/LB. That's just the reality of the positional costs. The benefit there is at least there are usually quite a few WRs that are mid level, whereas DTs there is usually a very limited supply. But that just raises the DT costs already much higher....

We NEED a starting Level WR, period.

Imo, especially with Patterson leaving, and I guess the fact they are not going to be moving Lucas to Safety, we absolutely NEED a starting Safety. Personally I'd 100% just move Lucas to Safety so that we can have Lucas and Poyser at S, and OJ, OConner, and Brantley all at CB and all 5 on field together. Plus doing that doesn't pigeon hole us into getting a top S. We can then just get the best DB we can afford whether that be another CB or S... But you aren't needing to spend a lot on the position cause you already have Damari and Karnley, so you can just get more of a rotational/depth S. That would open a lot of money to potentially get a Top Portal DT and portal WR....

And we've been over time after time our LB position. I don't feel very good if Wes, Chase Smith, and Alderman are expected to receive heavy PT. Wiley hasn't been hyped up this spring like other freshman have, which imo is likely a sign he's probably not in the starting rotation after spring. Bobby Washington tore a patella or some ****, so is out. That leaves Popo, Pruitt, and Hayes. Which hey if this staff feels confident the young LBs are stepping up, I'd be very happy. But if this staff is viewing Wes, Smith, and Alderman as 3 of the top 4 in the rotation, that is straight disgusting and we NEED a top portal LB.

Meanwhile we are pretty confident in the 3 DTs we have in Blay, Scott, and Moten. We absolutely need another DT. But you have to really weight how much you are going to spend. I would NOT go all out for a top DT, then be left with our **** in our hand needing to fill WR, S, LB...

And to top it off since yall all want Emory gone and that seems likely, do any of you think getting even a backup QB is going to be extremely cheap? **** no. Especially if it is someone with more talent than Emory, like Rashada lol....

If you think the 3 guys we have at DT are enough for us to stop big OLs from CFP caliber teams then I don’t know what to tell you.

Do we need a top WR - absolutely. But without another DT we are fvcked next season. Drop some other guys who are underachieving and get both a DT and a WR.

 

[TRick72]

Scott, Blount, Lowe and Lightfoot. The first three are all big dudes who play inside and out. All four are elite recruits who cost a lot of money to sign. They need to perform, as does Blay who was the #2 DT in the Portal.

Everybody wants more big DL. There aren’t many good ones and they cost a ton. I wish we had 10 of them, but this is the real world and there is competition for limited resources.

Only one of those dudes is going to play inside in base package. 1 of them might line up inside in the nascar package but that’s about it. I’m not arguing that there isn’t limited resources but our prioritization with those resources sucks.

 

[The Sphinx]

No my view is we have a DT need, just that we have possibly other pressing needs that may be more critical especially given DT WILL be very expensive. IF we are going to go for a top WR AND starting LB and Starting S, I don't think a legit starting quality DT is likely in the budget. Now obviously we can say what if we get good WR/S/LB deals, well yeah I'd like to spend as much money as we can on best DT.

OR which I think we actually SHOULD do Is move Lucas to Safety and remove the need for a starting S in portal, and divert that money to DT or something, then we can get a top WR, good quality DT, Starting LB, and just a rotational quality S...

I just do not at all expect to walk out of spring portal with BOTH a Top WR and Top DT. I think its one or the other. That doesn't mean if we get one the other can't be a solid contributor.

If we don’t get both, then we don’t make the playoffs. Period. We desperately need both and if we want to make it to the playoffs, we find a way to make it happen.

It’s not rocket science.

 

[DMoney]

I’d be stunned if we didn’t sign another DT. It’s a priority. But people need to be realistic about the DT market in the Portal.

There aren’t many good ones and they cost a fortune. In the winter, David Blay was top of the market and we won that battle.

Miami is considered a huge spender by everyone in the outside world. You don’t have to worry about them being aggressive. But they can’t rub a lamp and bring back Warren Sapp and Cortez Kennedy. That needs to built through recruiting. Most impactful DTs don’t hit the Portal.

 

[Canesfan1993]

Literally this afternoon the beat writers said we were going to pursue one of the best LBs in the portal Andrew Simpson. It’s been open for one day. Calm your **** bud.

Im very calm. I just have heard enough to know one LB is not fixing that room and what the mindset is of our staff. Great job at missing the whole point of the post though. Proud of you.

 

[Memnon]

*******!

Now he's DEAD to me!

How could he turn his back on family...

 

[Calinative]

I’d be stunned if we didn’t sign another DT. It’s a priority. But people need to be realistic about the DT market in the Portal.

There aren’t many good ones and they cost a fortune. In the winter, David Blay was top of the market and we won that battle.

Miami is considered a huge spender by everyone in the outside world. You don’t have to worry about them being aggressive. But they can’t rub a lamp and bring back Warren Sapp and Cortez Kennedy. That needs to built through recruiting. Most impactful DTs don’t hit the Portal.

At this point, I’d rather splurge on an impactful WR or S than an overpriced solid player at DT.

We need to land at least 1 stud DT yearly, with the intention of keeping them 2 years minimum. Can't recruit top DTs then let them walk like we did with Carr even if they aren't delivering yet. That needs to be the gameplan at DT.

Yearly we need: 1 5 star to very high 4 star, 1 Mid to high 4 star, and then like 2 low 4star/high 3star types like Donta Simpson who are built well and have potential. Also we need to make sure one of those guys we're bringing in is a REALLY big guy per class like the artavius jones' type...

I'm not looking forward to what we are gunna have to do at DT next offseason...

 

[DMoney]

Im very calm. I just have heard enough to know one LB is not fixing that room and what the mindset is of our staff. Great job at missing the whole point of the post though. Proud of you.

Mario’s mindset is “Spend to the absolute limit of the budget and get the best players possible.”

It’s fair to question results and discuss priorities of positions. But the reason so many coaches hate Mario is because we spend big and recruit relentlessly.

 

[Calinative]

Gunna be funny to see how the mopes spin this if he ends up getting picked up by UGA. Cause does this make him a missed eval? lol

 

[The Sphinx]

I’d be stunned if we didn’t sign another DT. It’s a priority. But people need to be realistic about the DT market in the Portal.

There aren’t many good ones and they cost a fortune. In the winter, David Blay was top of the market and we won that battle.

Miami is considered a huge spender by everyone in the outside world. You don’t have to worry about them being aggressive. But they can’t rub a lamp and bring back Warren Sapp and Cortez Kennedy. That needs to built through recruiting. Most impactful DTs don’t hit the Portal.

Agreed, D$. I think a DT1 is unrealistic but a solid contributor is a must have. We cannot roll into 2025 with Scott, Blay and Moten and then pray that TF Simpson shines. If he does, that’s a luxury.

Just get me an upgrade over Horton who can give us some quality minutes so we don’t burn out our 3 veteran DTs before the ACCCG.

Assuming Artavious will be primarily a DE?

 

[Calinative]

Im very calm. I just have heard enough to know one LB is not fixing that room and what the mindset is of our staff. Great job at missing the whole point of the post though. Proud of you.

We only need one LB in portal if it's a top guy.
Its the staffs job to get someone out of Wes, Popo, Wiley, Pruitt, and Hayes. If they can't get one of those guys to step the **** up, than whats even the point of recruiting good HS prospects.

 

[Calinative]

If you think the 3 guys we have at DT are enough for us to stop big OLs from CFP caliber teams then I don’t know what to tell you.

Do we need a top WR - absolutely. But without another DT we are fvcked next season. Drop some other guys who are underachieving and get both a DT and a WR.

Uh, You won't hear me argue against adding a DT.
You also won't hear me fighting against getting a TOP DT if one becomes available. But It would have repercussions in other areas, particularly because DT is going to be so expensive. I've already said I'd drop the need for a top Safety by moving Lucas to Safety, and diverting those funds to ensuring we get an even better DT.

However what I am saying is we have a 3 person DT rotation we should be decently confident in with Blay, Scott, and Moten. We definitely need to add one more, and I'd heavily Prioritize adding a dude with serious size that is a proven run stuffer. I hope next year Artavius Jones improves to fill that role, but I wouldn't count on it this year. Donta Simpson should just get maybe a couple snaps here and there, but not much.