Ole Miss vs FSU Gameday Discussion

[Canezum5]

[MENTION=3]LuCane[/MENTION] we had prediction but score was way off. Lol.
Bimbo still didnt open the playbook for him but he makes some of if not the best adjustments in the game.

He spots a weakness quick.

Charles kelly is still in over his head, imo. Richt should eat all day.

Yall calling Francois "real" and all need to chill. Running around like a chicken with your head cutoff because you lost your progression only makes you the 2nd coming of e.j. manuel

Francois isn't Winston, but this is similar to what everyone on here said about Winston after the Pitt game. The DBs just stood there, let's see what happens when a decent team gets in his face, not that impressive. I'm not ready to crown the kid but he looked great in his first start and got better as the game went.

No sir. Not even close to the same because PITT aint Ole Miss.

The difference is the type of playcalls and how much Bimbo trusts his QB.

It was different with Winston because it was clear he was operating in an open offense and going thru progressions with great anticipation, timing, and accuracy on his throws.

Winston ran when necessary. not because he doesn't remember his next read. Jimbo never had to call bootleg throw-back passes to create offense for Winston.

I can see how someone can make your assessment from face value but when you understand X's and O's it's quite clear Francois was being carried by great athletes and excellent coaching in last nights game.

Like I said, he isn't Winston, Winston was special. Still the kid played lights out in his first start and I compare the two because as Canes it's difficult for us to give credit to a rival player. I compared the two because Winstom went for 300+ and had only two incompletions and people still weren't impressed. Now Farncois threw for 400 and people are still playing it off like its nothing. Reality is that FSU has a competent QB something that was questioned going into the season. You couple that with t depth and talent they have and they will be difficult to beat. I think we can do it but Francois being competent and mobile to add, will make it tough to beat by anybody. Their OL seemed to struggle though. Hard to tell if it was all them or if Ole Miss has the horses up front.

Its not difficult for me to give anyone credit but i get your point.

My critique is coming from the playcalls which in turn show how cerebral/trustworthy the qb is.

When you have to pull out trick plays for your qb. he isn't that competent. Pulling the ball down because you lost your progression isn't competence.

He is a talented athlete lucky enough to be surrounded by stud athletes and a stud coach. I think you give him a little too much credit.

He should have been picked off many times last night.

 

[Canezum5]

My homeboy demarquis gates was #3 linebacker for ole miss was balling though. Them boys was outcoached only reason they losses tbqh. They was on the field for 75% of the game because their offense was feast or famine

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[bobbydigius]

[MENTION=3]LuCane[/MENTION] we had prediction but score was way off. Lol.
Bimbo still didnt open the playbook for him but he makes some of if not the best adjustments in the game.

He spots a weakness quick.

Charles kelly is still in over his head, imo. Richt should eat all day.

Yall calling Francois "real" and all need to chill. Running around like a chicken with your head cutoff because you lost your progression only makes you the 2nd coming of e.j. manuel

Francois isn't Winston, but this is similar to what everyone on here said about Winston after the Pitt game. The DBs just stood there, let's see what happens when a decent team gets in his face, not that impressive. I'm not ready to crown the kid but he looked great in his first start and got better as the game went.

No sir. Not even close to the same because PITT aint Ole Miss.

The difference is the type of playcalls and how much Bimbo trusts his QB.

It was different with Winston because it was clear he was operating in an open offense and going thru progressions with great anticipation, timing, and accuracy on his throws.

Winston ran when necessary. not because he doesn't remember his next read. Jimbo never had to call bootleg throw-back passes to create offense for Winston.

I can see how someone can make your assessment from face value but when you understand X's and O's it's quite clear Francois was being carried by great athletes and excellent coaching in last nights game.

Like I said, he isn't Winston, Winston was special. Still the kid played lights out in his first start and I compare the two because as Canes it's difficult for us to give credit to a rival player. I compared the two because Winstom went for 300+ and had only two incompletions and people still weren't impressed. Now Farncois threw for 400 and people are still playing it off like its nothing. Reality is that FSU has a competent QB something that was questioned going into the season. You couple that with t depth and talent they have and they will be difficult to beat. I think we can do it but Francois being competent and mobile to add, will make it tough to beat by anybody. Their OL seemed to struggle though. Hard to tell if it was all them or if Ole Miss has the horses up front.

Its not difficult for me to give anyone credit but i get your point.

My critique is coming from the playcalls which in turn show how cerebral/trustworthy the qb is.

When you have to pull out trick plays for your qb. he isn't that competent. Pulling the ball down because you lost your progression isn't competence.

He is a talented athlete lucky enough to be surrounded by stud athletes and a stud coach. I think you give him a little too much credit.

He should have been picked off many times last night.

Not saying this relates to you because you are right about Francois and him being more of a one read QB, which can work just fine in college, but there were threads started about Winston being a one read QB. It wasn't til he was done at FSU did posters on this site give him credit as a great college QB, then they moved on to him being a bust in the pros. Francois isn't a cerebral QB like say a Kaaya, but what he did last night was in fact impressive. Ole Miss pinned its ears back and went after him, and had success getting there and the kid hung in there and made plays with his arm and legs. Like I said he isn't gonna be a Kaaya or Winston in those terms buts it's also short sighted to think he can't improve at all there.

If our own Cactus Jack had a first start like Francois, we would be all doing the Irish Jigg. It was an impressive first start plain and simple.

 

[INCaneFan]

To the above poster, he didn't have much time to make more than one read for a good portion of the game.

You mentioned BK, how do you think he would've done? Granted, the offense would be called and planned differently, but I don't see a comeback coming like that from that far down. Without his feet, Francois is best up even more.

Someone brought up Winston's first game. At that time, O said the guy was unreal for a first time starter and said likely first rounder right then. I don't know where I'm at with Francois yet, but **** good game. Winston was just on another level for a first time starter. Keep him healthy and FSU should make a late run this year.

 

[ADELPHI]

Live by the 2 minute offense, die by the 2 minute offense. If Ol Miss had any semblance
of a running game then they would have pulled it off. We have much better balance.

 

[Canezum5]

Francois isn't Winston, but this is similar to what everyone on here said about Winston after the Pitt game. The DBs just stood there, let's see what happens when a decent team gets in his face, not that impressive. I'm not ready to crown the kid but he looked great in his first start and got better as the game went.

No sir. Not even close to the same because PITT aint Ole Miss.

The difference is the type of playcalls and how much Bimbo trusts his QB.

It was different with Winston because it was clear he was operating in an open offense and going thru progressions with great anticipation, timing, and accuracy on his throws.

Winston ran when necessary. not because he doesn't remember his next read. Jimbo never had to call bootleg throw-back passes to create offense for Winston.

I can see how someone can make your assessment from face value but when you understand X's and O's it's quite clear Francois was being carried by great athletes and excellent coaching in last nights game.

Like I said, he isn't Winston, Winston was special. Still the kid played lights out in his first start and I compare the two because as Canes it's difficult for us to give credit to a rival player. I compared the two because Winstom went for 300+ and had only two incompletions and people still weren't impressed. Now Farncois threw for 400 and people are still playing it off like its nothing. Reality is that FSU has a competent QB something that was questioned going into the season. You couple that with t depth and talent they have and they will be difficult to beat. I think we can do it but Francois being competent and mobile to add, will make it tough to beat by anybody. Their OL seemed to struggle though. Hard to tell if it was all them or if Ole Miss has the horses up front.

Its not difficult for me to give anyone credit but i get your point.

My critique is coming from the playcalls which in turn show how cerebral/trustworthy the qb is.

When you have to pull out trick plays for your qb. he isn't that competent. Pulling the ball down because you lost your progression isn't competence.

He is a talented athlete lucky enough to be surrounded by stud athletes and a stud coach. I think you give him a little too much credit.

He should have been picked off many times last night.

Not saying this relates to you because you are right about Francois and him being more of a one read QB, which can work just fine in college, but there were threads started about Winston being a one read QB. It wasn't til he was done at FSU did posters on this site give him credit as a great college QB, then they moved on to him being a bust in the pros. Francois isn't a cerebral QB like say a Kaaya, but what he did last night was in fact impressive. Ole Miss pinned its ears back and went after him, and had success getting there and the kid hung in there and made plays with his arm and legs. Like I said he isn't gonna be a Kaaya or Winston in those terms buts it's also short sighted to think he can't improve at all there.

If our own Cactus Jack had a first start like Francois, we would be all doing the Irish Jigg. It was an impressive first start plain and simple.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Cook still looks like the truth, francois looked alright considering it was his first start. FSU doesn't look that dominant.. i feel good about our chances this year.

Yeah,400 yds vs a SEC D ,not bad.

Ole Miss wasn't necessarily a top 5 D, and they lost their number 1 corner.. don't get me wrong, a solid performance, but i saw the first half, and wasn't blown away. That said it, it was his first start and he looked alright.

Hes looked alright? Who cook?
Not accusing u but u saw how everyone reacted after famu lol like we back or some ****. Then we laugh at there forums and if imma fsu fan reading this im laughing. Cook was elite period he played great i hope though he tears his **** but still hes a once in a lifetime back like we all thought when ag fked up n randy with freeman.

 

[moshated305]

Every game is different. The kid was impressive for sure but his game to Winston's is no comparison. Winston did what he did from the jump. This kid was lost early on and only got hot once Jimbo made adjustments. Not saying the kid won't be a good college QB but he is no near what Winston was, whether people hated on Winston just because he was a Nole or not.

 

[bxcanesbomber]

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[Dwinstitles]

Every game is different. The kid was impressive for sure but his game to Winston's is no comparison. Winston did what he did from the jump. This kid was lost early on and only got hot once Jimbo made adjustments. Not saying the kid won't be a good college QB but he is no near what Winston was, whether people hated on Winston just because he was a Nole or not.

He played good for first game against sec espn primetime i would be happy if perry plays that way

 

[[]_[]nique]

Every game is different. The kid was impressive for sure but his game to Winston's is no comparison. Winston did what he did from the jump. This kid was lost early on and only got hot once Jimbo made adjustments. Not saying the kid won't be a good college QB but he is no near what Winston was, whether people hated on Winston just because he was a Nole or not.

It was his first start, against better comp than Winston's first game.....he got his feet under him and balled out. Jameis benifitted from Jimbo's adjustments just as regularly his last year. He is a playmaker that we'll have to contain, and I'm positive we can do it with this coaching staff.

 

[AtrainCane]

I think everyone is forgetting Miss lost 2 starters in the secondary, and started playing the Dorito bend don't break 10 yard cushion and bail defense.
He made a bunch of easy throws against off coverage. The kind of stuff we have been screaming at the tv for years as we made horrible qbs look like Heisman winners.

 

[moshated305]

Every game is different. The kid was impressive for sure but his game to Winston's is no comparison. Winston did what he did from the jump. This kid was lost early on and only got hot once Jimbo made adjustments. Not saying the kid won't be a good college QB but he is no near what Winston was, whether people hated on Winston just because he was a Nole or not.

It was his first start, against better comp than Winston's first game.....he got his feet under him and balled out. Jameis benifitted from Jimbo's adjustments just as regularly his last year. He is a playmaker that we'll have to contain, and I'm positive we can do it with this coaching staff.

I agree with all that but the kid still isnt Winston. Period.

 

[DaU83]

Cook still looks like the truth, francois looked alright considering it was his first start. FSU doesn't look that dominant.. i feel good about our chances this year.

Yeah,400 yds vs a SEC D ,not bad.

Ole Miss wasn't necessarily a top 5 D, and they lost their number 1 corner.. don't get me wrong, a solid performance, but i saw the first half, and wasn't blown away. That said it, it was his first start and he looked alright.

Hes looked alright? Who cook?
Not accusing u but u saw how everyone reacted after famu lol like we back or some ****. Then we laugh at there forums and if imma fsu fan reading this im laughing. Cook was elite period he played great i hope though he tears his **** but still hes a once in a lifetime back like we all thought when ag fked up n randy with freeman.

read the post. Francois looked alright.

 

[Dwinstitles]

Cook still looks like the truth, francois looked alright considering it was his first start. FSU doesn't look that dominant.. i feel good about our chances this year.

Yeah,400 yds vs a SEC D ,not bad.

Ole Miss wasn't necessarily a top 5 D, and they lost their number 1 corner.. don't get me wrong, a solid performance, but i saw the first half, and wasn't blown away. That said it, it was his first start and he looked alright.

Hes looked alright? Who cook?
Not accusing u but u saw how everyone reacted after famu lol like we back or some ****. Then we laugh at there forums and if imma fsu fan reading this im laughing. Cook was elite period he played great i hope though he tears his **** but still hes a once in a lifetime back like we all thought when ag fked up n randy with freeman.

read the post. Francois looked alright.

My,bad

 

[Dwinstitles]

Cook still looks like the truth, francois looked alright considering it was his first start. FSU doesn't look that dominant.. i feel good about our chances this year.

Yeah,400 yds vs a SEC D ,not bad.

Ole Miss wasn't necessarily a top 5 D, and they lost their number 1 corner.. don't get me wrong, a solid performance, but i saw the first half, and wasn't blown away. That said it, it was his first start and he looked alright.

Hes looked alright? Who cook?
Not accusing u but u saw how everyone reacted after famu lol like we back or some ****. Then we laugh at there forums and if imma fsu fan reading this im laughing. Cook was elite period he played great i hope though he tears his **** but still hes a once in a lifetime back like we all thought when ag fked up n randy with freeman.

read the post. Francois looked alright.

I think if our college qbs first game was like that alot of peope here wont say alright

 

[DaU83]

Yeah,400 yds vs a SEC D ,not bad.

Ole Miss wasn't necessarily a top 5 D, and they lost their number 1 corner.. don't get me wrong, a solid performance, but i saw the first half, and wasn't blown away. That said it, it was his first start and he looked alright.

Hes looked alright? Who cook?
Not accusing u but u saw how everyone reacted after famu lol like we back or some ****. Then we laugh at there forums and if imma fsu fan reading this im laughing. Cook was elite period he played great i hope though he tears his **** but still hes a once in a lifetime back like we all thought when ag fked up n randy with freeman.

read the post. Francois looked alright.

I think if our college qbs first game was like that alot of peope here wont say alright

i didn't see the second half.. so maybe he lit it up then. But the first half was not impressive IMO.

 

[1hurricane]

I wonder how many threads FSU has about us on there boards???? Does anybody know?

 

[Dwinstitles]

I wonder how many threads FSU has about us on there boards???? Does anybody know?

When they r chasing us they will.....we been talking abour them since they arrived under fisher

 

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This thread was very entertaining