Ok, what I saw....

[Pentagon Cane]

gotcha, Im at that point, go with the younger more talented guys and manage their mistakes. I know what I have in some of these upperclassmen upfront(and it's not good enough)

I thought the communication issues were very apparent against LSU and that magnified the mistakes. Conley made an interesting point that our guys were standing up and losing leverage. That is laziness. I'd like to get the youngers more reps the next 3 games for sure. They are the far superior athletes.

 

[ThomasM]

Thomas, I dont disagree and Im one of those who would like Richt to make a permanent switch but again, I believe all these guys have higher ceilings than Rosier, but the question is - are they better than him as of this moment?

There is only one way to find out.

 

[Pentagon Cane]

Had to cover some fights last night(the ones on HBO) and I watched the Savannah St scrimmage this morning. And well, this wasn't even a scrimmage or sparring session but really hitting on a heavy bag(as I've said in the past about games of this nature) so everything stated has to be a bit muted - after all, its Sav St.

- Lot has been said about the QB situation, not sure what I can add except that I hope Richt continues to work the younger ones into the rotation and get them some meaningful snaps. But here's the reality - none of these guys are perfect or polished enough to be a sure thing at this moment. Perry throws a nice ball and seems to throw it on time(something Rosier struggles with) but again, it was Sav St. He needs much more seasoning and reps.

Weldon looks like a wild-card, guy has a lot of moxie and looks like a tough, hard-nosed athlete(got away with a bad throw early that should've been a pick) and Jarren Williams certainly looked good in limited time( many believe he has the highest ceiling)

Toledo will be interesting since it's a road game. Im very curious to see how Perry' reacts in this environment.

I'll say it again, whoever starts vs UNC on Sept 27th, will go into the FSU game as the starter. So the next two weeks will be interesting.

- I really enjoyed the commentary of former FSU Nole 'big' Forest Conely, and he said something that was very obvious and alarming : the UM Oline doesn't get a great thrust off the ball and not nearly as physical as they need to be. It was an indictment of Stacy Searles in many respects. Flat out, early on I didn't see much push or clear running lanes as they ran the ball - and this was vs Sav St. As DMoney mentioned, Gaynor seemed to give this unit some much needed nastiness as he got in the game. Honestly, not a big fan of Jones and Mahoney and what's really needed are some of the recruits from the past two classes to really make that jump where they are factors.

- Again it's Sav St. but it's clear that this freshman class can be special. I want to see more of these guys get larger roles as the season goes on. Bottom line you can just see their athleticism and twitch and they immediately upgraded this teams overall speed right off the bat. The future is now, get some of these upperclassmen into smaller roles and start breaking in the new guys I say. In this day and age, fewer quality players are staying 4/5 years, you might as well get them going as soon as possible.

- Really, that's all I have, I mean it was Sav St

Weldon looks like a kid who would thrive in the Flexbone. Looks bigger than his 215 pounds. Runs well.

 

[Loose Cannon]

One question. We know Perry, Weldon, and Williams are not sure things. However, when did Rosier become a sure thing? It's not like he's playing good football, or has the potential to be great. So, why are we worried about the backups being sure things when our starter isn't a sure thing anyway?

I don't think it's so much as Rosier being a sure thing as it is knowing what he can do. I'm not trying to sugar coat anything or play favorites, but the terribly inaccurate guy was just the most accurate of all 4 QBs against the exact same competition--granted I don't think Weldon or Williams had adequate reps to settle in.

Malik and Perry both went against the 1's for about the same amount of time.
Malik was 8/12 for 131 (10.9 avg 67%) 3 TDs and 0 INT's
Perry was 9/14 for 83 (6.6 avg 64%) 3 TDs and 1 INT

Weldon and Williams basically split the 4th quarter against a bunch of walk-ons and combined for:
2/5 for 31 (15.5 avg 40%) 2 TDs and 0 INT's

I know people are ready for something better, and I am too. What encouraged me about Perry was his arm talent when he needed to zing one in there, and his willingness to hit TE's and RB's on check downs. I know everyone seems to be willing to grade the freshmen on a curve, but I'm not. If you can't out play the starter in the same game, behind the same line, against the same defense, then you don't deserve to start until you can.

I'm as eager as anyone else for better QB play, but I think easing these guys in against the lower tier defenses we'll be facing the next few weeks is the way to go. It's up to them to sink or swim.

 

[ThomasM]

I don't think it's so much as Rosier being a sure thing as it is knowing what he can do. I'm not trying to sugar coat anything or play favorites, but the terribly inaccurate guy was just the most accurate of all 4 QBs against the exact same competition--granted I don't think Weldon or Williams had adequate reps to settle in.

Malik and Perry both went against the 1's for about the same amount of time.
Malik was 8/12 for 131 (10.9 avg 67%) 3 TDs and 0 INT's
Perry was 9/14 for 83 (6.6 avg 64%) 3 TDs and 1 INT

Weldon and Williams basically split the 4th quarter against a bunch of walk-ons and combined for:
2/5 for 31 (15.5 avg 40%) 2 TDs and 0 INT's

I know people are ready for something better, and I am too. What encouraged me about Perry was his arm talent when he needed to zing one in there, and his willingness to hit TE's and RB's on check downs. I know everyone seems to be willing to grade the freshmen on a curve, but I'm not. If you can't out play the starter in the same game, behind the same line, against the same defense, then you don't deserve to start until you can.

I'm as eager as anyone else for better QB play, but I think easing these guys in against the lower tier defenses we'll be facing the next few weeks is the way to go. It's up to them to sink or swim.

You take away Rosier's one long pass to Thomas, which he hits once every 15 games, and his stats are mighty pedestrian. There was a reason Rosier was getting booed.

 

[Loose Cannon]

You take away Rosier's one long pass to Thomas, which he hits once every 15 games, and his stats are mighty pedestrian. There was a reason Rosier was getting booed.

Take away the gut shot laser Perry slung to that LB and I might be on the bench Rosier bandwagon. Like I said. I like what I saw from Perry. I just want to see more at this point. As fans, I think it's cool to grade on a curve. Perry was at the very least no worse than Malik, and that's promising for the future. I just want better QB play, man, but I'm waiting for someone to show it before going all in.

Also, that was the best pass Rosier has completed in about 5 games. Let him have that one. Geez.

 

[ThomasM]

Take away the gut shot laser Perry slung to that LB and I might be on the bench Rosier bandwagon. Like I said. I like what I saw from Perry. I just want to see more at this point. As fans, I think it's cool to grade on a curve. Perry was at the very least no worse than Malik, and that's promising for the future. I just want better QB play, man, but I'm waiting for someone to show it before going all in.

Also, that was the best pass Rosier has completed in about 5 games. Let him have that one. Geez.

No, it was the best pass he has thrown in 15 games, not 5. I don't want to wait another 15 for his next great pass.

As for Perry and his one INT... I am 100% fine with a young QB making a mistake. It gives the coaches a great chance to correct them. That's a LOT easier to correct than all the BS we have seen from Rosier the last year plus. There is no fixing what Rosier offers, there just isn't. Richt got more out of Rosier than I thought he would, but it will never be enough to win anything meaningful.

 

[Loose Cannon]

No, it was the best pass he has thrown in 15 games, not 5. I don't want to wait another 15 for his next great pass.

As for Perry and his one INT... I am 100% fine with a young QB making a mistake. It gives the coaches a great chance to correct them. That's a LOT easier to correct than all the BS we have seen from Rosier the last year plus. There is no fixing what Rosier offers, there just isn't. Richt got more out of Rosier than I thought he would, but it will never be enough to win anything meaningful.

I don't disagree with your point about us having seen all we need to see from Malik, but I'll never be fine with a QB staring down a receiver only to throw the ball directly to a waiting defender that he never saw. It wasn't okay when Malik did it last week against LSU, and it ain't okay for Perry to do it against SSU. Shlt like that is why Malik gets booed and has fans screaming for something better.

It is a coach-able moment, though. Let's see if Perry learns from it. I believe he will.

 

[Cane Dynasty]

Larry Scott got more out of Malweak Dozier than Rich ever will.

 

[Mark Richt]

Solid @k9cane.

@Mark Richt, we see what you're dealing with, we'll back you and the team if you put Mark Pope and Brian Hightower out there and they make a mistake. What's difficult to support is watching Gurvan Hall stand on the sidelines while Robert Knowles repeatedly runs himself out of plays over and over again.

I'm going to play the safeties that give us the best chance to win football games.

 

[tcgrad1014]

What exactly is the difference in playing FIU, Savannah St or BCC? They are expected blowouts. It is just a matter of by how much. Every top team in College plays 2 of these games a year.

FIU would beat Sad State by 50.