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Nothing really wrong with play calling tonight

I can count at least four times where if Kayaa pulled the ball on the zone read he picks up 10 yards easy. The one pass he throws incomplete, he had Herdon open in the flat. He could of ran that too. IMO Ricth is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. Thats on him.
 
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Not one snap from the I formation. Maybe 2 from one-back set. And we don't think play calling is the problem? That's priceless. It's like saying the GOP's current problem isn't the nominee.

We're not hitting anybody on offense. That's the primary feature of this wonderful RPO offense. It's the worst at Miami since the Patrick Nix era. Not the least bit intriguing, given all the fundamental flaws. Even the occasional looping running play that happens to bust between linemen does so mostly by accident. It's influence, not force. When force is not prioritized then no kidding the opposing defensive linemen absolutely thrive as the game progresses. They haven't been dented at all.

Right now every game reminds me of that Thursday nighter at Cincinnati last season, when we made no attempt to run smack at a small and vulnerable but very hyper defense. Then I watched San Diego State physically brutalize the same Bearcat team out of the I formation months later in the bowl game. We have no upside or spark at all right now. I had no anticipation entering tonight's game. During the Golden years occasionally we would pop a surprisingly sharp effort, like two years ago on a Thursday night against Virginia Tech. I attended that game. All this week I've been so thankful I didn't schedule a trip to Blacksburg this time.

When I supported hiring Richt I assumed we would inherit that offense, the one he used at Georgia. That offense had an identity. A basic physical identity. It would fit wonderfully with our personnel given this immobile quarterback. Instead, we've got a wimp shotgun offense that hysterically features Brad Kaaya using ridiculous play fakes long after the handoff and when that running back is being destroyed for a loss.

These frozen shotgun handoffs with delayed blocking are not the equivalent of downhill assertive drive blocking. That's the misconception. We're not even giving the linemen a full chance. Our personnel is hardly 10-win or national championship caliber, as suggested by two amusing threads this season, but it's not subpar by national standards, not to the point we can't drive block while understanding the natural benefits, while accepting the occasional stuffed play that looks stupid. Years from now some of these linemen will be in the NFL.

The area that Donald Trump says he is allowed to grab, that describes our offensive scheme right now.
 
DMoney said:
We had the same OL last year. Threw all over them and won comfortably. What changed?
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What I said in the other thread. OL is playing worse (yes same players, but they're playing worse...I don't care why, they are). Missing Scott and Waters. Kaaya is playing scared. He is. I don't know if he's hurt, or mentally hurt, but he's playing scared. He looks like Tannehill out there. He's sacking himself half of the time. He's feeling pressure when there isn't pressure. A lot of that comes from the OL being terrible. Defenses have figured out they can get to Kaaya without bringing pressure and our WRs aren't good enough to get open. That's what UNC and FSU did a lot. Then tonight, VT brought pressure and our OL wasn't good enough to pick it up, and when they did, Kaaya held the ball way too long, or didn't throw it away and took sacks when he didn't need to take them.

And, lastly, please stop with the, "we did this to them last year crap." Different VT team. We could have beaten UNC by 60 in 2014. We could have lost to them by 60 in 2015. It's called football.
 
Notsince1985 said:
streetja said:
Lol at guys continuing to make excuses for Richrt after the sample size we now have. You're telling me he comes out of this scot-free after not breaking more than 21 points in the 4 real games we've had so far?

Sheesh you guys are thick....
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I said tonight big guy. I gave him **** after FSU and UNC (and GT too). To-*******-night.
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So it's just a coincidence that we've played like **** in 3 games and we played like **** today? Doesn't that make it a pattern at this point?

What did you see tonight that puts zero blame on Richt? Because I still saw zero crossing patterns, running into 9 man front's, the RPO, Walton starting over Yearby, etc...

In fact tonight was maybe his WORST game because he never adjusted to VT's clear blitzing on EVERY third down situation.
 
Yes it is on Richt. Richt calls the ****** offense. Richt coarches our ****** QB. Richt makes 4 mill a year. We have lost 3 in a row to teams that are not really that good. I gotta put this on Richt. Sorry.
 
Not on Richt?

Did you not see the difference in the way VT's offense was coordinated/called in comparison to ours?

That was one of the worst called games I've ever seen from an OC. We ran 'all verts' 3 times in a row one drive.
 
streetja said:
Notsince1985 said:
streetja said:
Lol at guys continuing to make excuses for Richrt after the sample size we now have. You're telling me he comes out of this scot-free after not breaking more than 21 points in the 4 real games we've had so far?

Sheesh you guys are thick....
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I said tonight big guy. I gave him **** after FSU and UNC (and GT too). To-*******-night.
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So it's just a coincidence that we've played like **** in 3 games and we played like **** today? Doesn't that make it a pattern at this point?

What did you see tonight that puts zero blame on Richt? Because I still saw zero crossing patterns, running into 9 man front's, the RPO, Walton starting over Yearby, etc...

In fact tonight was maybe his WORST game because he never adjusted to VT's clear blitzing on EVERY third down situation.
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Seriously? He made a ton of adjustments to his play calling. Just stop. We threw deep, we threw screens threw over the middle, the TEs were involved, we threw a couple WR screens against the blitz, we threw to the RBs, we ran bubble screens. We barely ran the RPO. Walton and Yearby had basically the same number of carries. Again, this game was not on Richt's play calling.
 
Notsince1985 said:
This game is not on Richt. If we lose (it's 30-16 now), it's on the OL, Kaaya's lack of pocket awareness and the defensive injuries. I usually don't pull a rok, but someone needs to get Tyree St. Louis out of my sight.
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I agree with you that the problem may not be playcalling.

But if it's not playcalling it's because the staff has done such a poor job at prepping for the game that no play will work.
 
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Notsince1985 said:
streetja said:
Notsince1985 said:
streetja said:
Lol at guys continuing to make excuses for Richrt after the sample size we now have. You're telling me he comes out of this scot-free after not breaking more than 21 points in the 4 real games we've had so far?

Sheesh you guys are thick....
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I said tonight big guy. I gave him **** after FSU and UNC (and GT too). To-*******-night.
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So it's just a coincidence that we've played like **** in 3 games and we played like **** today? Doesn't that make it a pattern at this point?

What did you see tonight that puts zero blame on Richt? Because I still saw zero crossing patterns, running into 9 man front's, the RPO, Walton starting over Yearby, etc...

In fact tonight was maybe his WORST game because he never adjusted to VT's clear blitzing on EVERY third down situation.
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Seriously? He made a ton of adjustments to his play calling. Just stop. We threw deep, we threw screens threw over the middle, the TEs were involved, we threw a couple WR screens against the blitz, we threw to the RBs, we ran bubble screens. We barely ran the RPO. Walton and Yearby had basically the same number of carries. Again, this game was not on Richt's play calling.
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Lmao at all that. We did all those things either maybe once, or on 3rd and 15's when it didn't even matter anymore. Richt has zero feel for play calling and rthym. There are clearly things that work, and yet he abandons those things for longs stretches of the game to go back to his horribly conservative play calling - which is why we're constantly in third and longs and off the field so quickly.
 
streetja said:
Notsince1985 said:
streetja said:
Notsince1985 said:
streetja said:
Lol at guys continuing to make excuses for Richrt after the sample size we now have. You're telling me he comes out of this scot-free after not breaking more than 21 points in the 4 real games we've had so far?

Sheesh you guys are thick....
Click to expand...

I said tonight big guy. I gave him **** after FSU and UNC (and GT too). To-*******-night.
Click to expand...

So it's just a coincidence that we've played like **** in 3 games and we played like **** today? Doesn't that make it a pattern at this point?

What did you see tonight that puts zero blame on Richt? Because I still saw zero crossing patterns, running into 9 man front's, the RPO, Walton starting over Yearby, etc...

In fact tonight was maybe his WORST game because he never adjusted to VT's clear blitzing on EVERY third down situation.
Click to expand...

Seriously? He made a ton of adjustments to his play calling. Just stop. We threw deep, we threw screens threw over the middle, the TEs were involved, we threw a couple WR screens against the blitz, we threw to the RBs, we ran bubble screens. We barely ran the RPO. Walton and Yearby had basically the same number of carries. Again, this game was not on Richt's play calling.
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Lmao at all that. We did all those things either maybe once, or on 3rd and 15's when it didn't even matter anymore. Richt has zero feel for play calling and rthym. There are clearly things that work, and yet he abandons those things for longs stretches of the game to go back to his horribly conservative play calling.
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No, but if it makes you feel better, fine. The fact that you think this game was lost because of play calling and not the 9 sacks or Kaaya's play tells me all I need to know. I'm not arguing with you anymore. Fire Richt!!
 
NotSince, you're one of my favorite posters; however, saying Richt wasn't part of the problem is absurd. This is on Richt just as much as it is on our OL and Kaaya. There is something very wrong fundamentally with this Offense.
 
Hurracanes said:
NotSince, you're one of my favorite posters; however, saying Richt wasn't part of the problem is absurd. This is on Richt just as much as it is on our OL and Kaaya.
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That's fine, I disagree about tonight. I think Richt has been a problem for most of the season. I saw nothing wrong (or little wrong) tonight. If the OL blocked like men. If Kaaya didn't play like a scared *****. If Njokou catches passes and doesn't fall down on sure TDs. And if the defense wasn't down 18 starters, we win easily with this play calling.
 
streetja said:
Lol at guys continuing to make excuses for Richrt after the sample size we now have. You're telling me he comes out of this scot-free after not breaking more than 21 points in the 4 real games we've had so far?

Sheesh you guys are thick....
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They are out of their minds if they don't think it's playcalling 80 percent of the issue. Haven't broke 21 points in 4 str8 games!!!. Wow. Never has offense been this bad. All on richt. He thought play calling was easy. BTW the sec is overrated when it comes to offensive creativity
 
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Notsince1985 said:
Hurracanes said:
NotSince, you're one of my favorite posters; however, saying Richt wasn't part of the problem is absurd. This is on Richt just as much as it is on our OL and Kaaya.
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That's fine, I disagree about tonight. I think Richt has been a problem for most of the season. I saw nothing wrong (or little wrong) tonight. If the OL blocked like men. If Kaaya didn't play like a scared *****. If Njokou catches passes and doesn't fall down on sure TDs. And if the defense wasn't down 18 starters, we win easily with this play calling.
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Valid points, however Richt didn't call many plays that made VT guess and play on their heels. We never use any play action, misdirections, screens to RB's (especially when VT is blitzing), middle of the field, etc. Everything is extremely predictable. I don't believe Richt is putting our guys in position to be successful.
 
Notsince1985 said:
Here are some facts

When we run it on 2nd and 12 or 3rd and 6, with the RPO, that's Kaaya's decision when he sees the safety or safeties back from the LOS. That's not a call from the sideline to run it. He has the option to run or pass, and he's choosing run because we have numbers. We're not executing. Now, you could argue Richt shouldn't give him the option to run it on 2nd and long or 3rd and medium even if we have numbers, but Richt is not calling a strictly running play in those situations.
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The problem with the RPO (besides the fact that Richt has fallen in love with it) is that it's OBVIOUS we're going to run it when we line up in that offset back shotgun formation. Teams are showing pass D then just flooding to the football to kill the run cos they know we can't block. It's completely baffling Kaaya. Richt needs to scrap that part of the offence entirely.

His play calling in general has been suspect. I thought he was a shark, but he's calling plays like a lamb. Why we didn't throw more screens tonight was puzzling - they were sending the house on third down.
 
How can anyone watch VT's offense tonight and watch Miami's and not say the difference in this game was play-calling?
 
Hurracanes said:
Notsince1985 said:
Hurracanes said:
NotSince, you're one of my favorite posters; however, saying Richt wasn't part of the problem is absurd. This is on Richt just as much as it is on our OL and Kaaya.
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That's fine, I disagree about tonight. I think Richt has been a problem for most of the season. I saw nothing wrong (or little wrong) tonight. If the OL blocked like men. If Kaaya didn't play like a scared *****. If Njokou catches passes and doesn't fall down on sure TDs. And if the defense wasn't down 18 starters, we win easily with this play calling.
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Valid points, however Richt didn't call many plays that made VT guess and play on their heels. We never use any play action, misdirections, screens to RB's (especially when VT is blitzing), middle of the field, etc. Everything is extremely predictable. I don't believe Richt is putting our guys in position to be successful.
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We did run some of those, but I also don't think we really have as many guys who can be successful as people think. I agree Richt needs to cover up for our offensive weaknesses more, but I'm sick and tired of everyone acting like we have the 1984 Dolphins or the 2007 Patriots offense out there.
 
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