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Stats02 said:
Same here. I respected them in the late 80's and the early 90's because I was told Miami respected FSU. I didn't know any better. I was young and dumb. Now, I'm just old and dumb. Ok, all jokes aside I did respect FSU because I thought that was the right thing to do. I also liked their style of play. They were tough and intimidating, just like Miami. That also changed for me during our sanctions.

I had somewhat stopped liking them around '95 or so, but I didn't hate them and I was still ok with them being good. The beat down they gave us in '97 accelerated everything and it was at that point I lost all respect and really started to hate them. Even with the lack of social media back then, I realized FSU hated us and had no respect for us. They didn't want us to be good, nor did they need us to be good. They wanted to bury us. I still hated several teams more than FSU. Teams like ND, Nebraska, Tennessee, VT, UF, and others. 2000 was the final nail in the coffin. After they were picked over us for the BCS championship, they went from just a hated team to my most hated team.
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Not me. I'm originally from Pittsburgh and that would be like me liking the Bangles, Puppy Kickers, or **** Browns at any point in my life. I never liked the effing Noles and it got worse when some HS friends who went there were gloating during the 1 - the probation era and 2 - the crablegs r***is era. Soft a** beta friends of mine are quiet af now. Like Just Josh Pray said, that ratchet program is not just dead, they're decomposing. RIP FSU...
 
LoyalCane24 said:
Norvell there is basically Shannon into Golden. About the same amount of time there as our combination of those two. Except they had no moment of hope with a coaching change halfway through . They are in the depths of **** 🤣

If they get Jimbo that is basically us getting Richt. It is an inbetween coach. Will take YEARS to get back to relevancy, and many more after that to ever reach national championship contention (ASSUMING they get the right guy after Jimbo)

Comedy Central in Trailerhassee
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The thing is they aren’t really years away. Like us (in the past), they have more talent than the results show. With a coach whose head isn’t firmly planted in his ***, they could win 7-8 games with this roster. From there, better evals and a little more money and they’re at 10 wins. All that in 5 years isn’t hard to imagine.

Having said that, they’d have to hit on the right guy, and as we know that’s exceedingly hard to do. In reality, they’re going to hire another idiot and the good times will keep on rolling for us.
 
kryptonite said:
The thing is they aren’t really years away. Like us (in the past), they have more talent than the results show. With a coach whose head isn’t firmly planted in his ***, they could win 7-8 games with this roster. From there, better evals and a little more money and they’re at 10 wins. All that in 5 years isn’t hard to imagine.

Having said that, they’d have to hit on the right guy, and as we know that’s exceedingly hard to do. In reality, they’re going to hire another idiot and the good times will keep on rolling for us.
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Having a little insight into their financial situation and booster network, I’d say Louisville is their ceiling for the next 5 years even with a great coaching staff. They just don’t have the support to fund a 10-win roster after they get rid of Norvell.
 
dycane said:
kryptonite said:
The thing is they aren’t really years away. Like us (in the past), they have more talent than the results show. With a coach whose head isn’t firmly planted in his ***, they could win 7-8 games with this roster. From there, better evals and a little more money and they’re at 10 wins. All that in 5 years isn’t hard to imagine.

Having said that, they’d have to hit on the right guy, and as we know that’s exceedingly hard to do. In reality, they’re going to hire another idiot and the good times will keep on rolling for us.
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Having a little insight into their financial situation and booster network, I’d say Louisville is their ceiling for the next 5 years even with a great coaching staff. They just don’t have the support to fund a 10-win roster after they get rid of Norvell.
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I was under the impression on this forum that their NIL was close to $30m. Assuming that’s the case, it won’t happen take much to get to $40m. But even with solid portal classes and complete roster turnover, the underlying talent won’t get you more than 8 wins (maybe 9-10 if they hit it big with a QB).
 
LoyalCane24 said:
Possibly. Not so long ago we were also dead broke. I think with the right leader in charge, money has a way of being miraculously discovered.

For that to happen they will need a real window of opportunity.

What that looks like:

1) A true leader to take over as a school president, AD, or even a GM like position, and he has to get the school and city FULLY behind him. Needs to have serious credibility.
2) A complete uprooting of the athletic department by said leader. As of now it is a clown show.
3) A coach out there that is proven, who WANTS to make FSU great. Ideally an alum or someone with real ties to the program. Someone that wouldn't leave for a better program and considers FSU a dream destination to stay at.
4) Said coach has to be available when the job opens. They don't have the luxury to make a "decent hire". Their next hire HAS to be the right one if they want serious investment.
5) All 4 of these pieces above have to be fully worked out behind the scenes, so when the fundraising begins, they have a fully established plan, with proof of concept, and can truly sell it to their boosters.

If all 5 happen at once, they will find the money. All 5 of these happened at once for Miami. In the span of a week, we went from a clown show, to a serious serious program.

The odds of all of this happening for them anytime soon are incredibly low.
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About the same as building MechaBowden
 
Munderwood said:
Was only replying to the quote that asked what loss we had when referring to the fsu loss to jack state
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SO ALLOW ME TO ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN, THE ONE YOU DIDN'T ANSWER: WHAT LAST-SECOND LOSS DID WE HAVE LIKE THAT ONE?

Don't give me some bull**** "loss". I was specific, you ignored my parameters.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Munderwood said:
Was only replying to the quote that asked what loss we had when referring to the fsu loss to jack state
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SO ALLOW ME TO ASK THE QUESTION AGAIN, THE ONE YOU DIDN'T ANSWER: WHAT LAST-SECOND LOSS DID WE HAVE LIKE THAT ONE?

Don't give me some bull**** "loss". I was specific, you ignored my parameters.
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My apologies wasn’t trying to ignore parameters was mentioning that loss which sucked, my apologies
 
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