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FL Cane said:
I will never understand why they paid $800K for a QB that most didn’t even ranking in the top ten of transfer QBs
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Its worse than that. He may have been the only player in the portal with a public negative reference from his head coach.

One that went past him as an individual and spoke to his negative effect on team culture.
 
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As long as FSU gets to 4-5 wins he’s going to get another year. Financially it’s a disaster for them still. They fire him this year they will have to spend major bank on a big name to come in or gamble on another up and comer with a smaller contract
 
gogeta4 said:
because he played well against them and knew gus malzahn offense who they knew they were getting. They are trying to replicate the back yard football jordan travis did
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This is the genuis-brain theory that led Randy Shannon to hire John "Butter-teeth" Lovett...

When will people learn?
 
Imukat said:
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Replicant?!

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Baghdad Brenda Somoma posted a Ten Observations article earlier today on them. This is a summary of the article but man, I don’t know how an FSU fan could read this and not see 🚨 here’s the ten observations:

1. Mike Norvell Likes This Team
  • Norvell doesn’t necessarily “love” the roster, but he feels comfortable with it.
  • He praised how much the team has accomplished in just 2.5 weeks of fall camp.
  • His demeanor has eased as camp progressed, showing confidence in the group’s maturity and energy.
  • Health remains the biggest “if” — success is tied more to avoiding injuries than in previous years.
  • Coaches’ voices carrying more during practice suggests higher player engagement and communication.
2. Depth Will Decide Success
  • The starting 22 can compete with anyone, but injuries are inevitable in football.
  • Success hinges on whether second-string players can contribute at a winning level.
  • If key positions (QB, OT, WR, CB, EDGE, DT) stay healthy, FSU should reach 8+ wins.
  • Depth pieces like Deamontae Diggs, Amaree Williams, Jaylin Lucas, and Micahi Danzy must provide sparks.
  • Without these role players stepping up, FSU would need “incredible luck” to survive the season.
3. RB Ousmane Kromah is Legit
  • Kromah entered camp with hype, and he has lived up to it — explosive and physical.
  • With pads on, he’s shown the toughness and playmaking ability coaches hoped for.
  • Still questions: Can he handle a full college workload over a long season?
  • His success will partly depend on the offensive line’s ability to open lanes.
  • His athleticism looks good enough to test even elite defenses
4. Freshmen Will Play
  • FSU plans to lean on true freshmen more than usual.
  • Ousmane Kromah is the frontrunner for most rookie snaps.
  • Jayvan Boggs (WR) may even start — coaches are high on his polish.
  • Shamar Arnoux is pushing for CB reps, maybe even starting time.
  • Other names to watch: Kevin Wynn (DL, injured but promising), Chase Loftin (DL), Tae’Shaun Gelsey (DL).
  • Mike Norvell himself highlighted Loftin recently as a high-expectation guy.
5. Gus Malzahn is Building Confidence
  • Malzahn (OC) said after scrimmages the scheme is “not there yet, but getting there.”
  • He likes the core group of offensive starters and how the pieces fit together.
  • Offense is ahead of the defense right now in consistency.
  • Depth still matters — auxiliary players like Lucas may be key in filling out rotations.
  • Coaches sensed a more relaxed Malzahn after scrimmages, which signals growing trust in the offense.
6. Tony White Has Work to Do
  • White (DC) faces a cultural challenge on defense: instilling physicality and accountability.
  • He emphasizes toughness, aggressiveness, and constant high energy.
  • Willing to live with freshman mistakes if they bring physical play (e.g., Desire twins).
  • The dismissal of Conrad Hussey reflected a need to cut ties with “me-first” attitudes.
  • Re-establishing physicality across the whole defense will be a gradual process, not instant.
7. Areas of Concern
  • Wide receiver depth: Behind starters, younger WRs like Duce Robinson, Squirrel White, and Jayvan Boggs must emerge.
  • Injuries hurt WR growth — Gavin Blackwell missed most of camp, BJ Gibson got dinged, Tae’Shaun Gelsey was limited.
  • Offensive line: Jacob Rizy is showing promise, but OL depth after him is thin. Gunnar Hansen is likely a starter.
  • Defensive line: Daniel Lyons (returning from injury) and KJ Sampson (quiet camp) must step up alongside Darrell Jackson.
  • Overall, WR/OL/DL depth are the most concerning areas of the roster.
8. Tommy Castellanos (Tommy C) is Who He Is
  • Don’t expect major leaps as a passer — accuracy remains a limitation.
  • Likely won’t suddenly develop into a high-end thrower.
  • However, he can combine decent ball security with his 2023 running ability.
  • If he’s competent with accuracy and decision-making, that may be enough for success.
  • Essentially, FSU will take his running plus “good enough” passing all day.
9. Identifying the “Dudes”
  • Leaders/talent anchors emerging: Jeremiah Wilson, Luke Petitbon, Duce Robinson, Randy Pittman, Darrell Jackson.
  • These players are expected to be the foundation of the team’s identity.
  • They combine skill with leadership qualities, making them locker room cornerstones.
  • Expect them to set the tone for culture and performance throughout the season.
10. The Ceiling is Unclear
  • The team has strong potential — but the ceiling depends heavily on health.
  • If the starting lineup stays intact, 8+ wins is realistic.
  • If depth falters due to injuries, the season outlook dips quickly.
  • Success also hinges on how quickly freshmen develop into reliable contributors.
  • The season could range from “good” to “special,” depending on those variables.
 
"6. Tony White Has Work to Do
  • White (DC) faces a cultural challenge on defense: instilling physicality and accountability.
  • He emphasizes toughness, aggressiveness, and constant high energy.
  • Willing to live with freshman mistakes if they bring physical play (e.g., Desire twins).
  • The dismissal of Conrad Hussey reflected a need to cut ties with “me-first” attitudes.
  • Re-establishing physicality across the whole defense will be a gradual process, not instant."

Brutal considering we already know their QB is a JAG and the offense will be inconsistent at best. And if they're expecting Darrell Jackson to be a leader, they're going to be disappointed.
 
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9. Identifying the “Dudes”

  • Leaders/talent anchors emerging: Jeremiah Wilson, Luke Petitbon, Duce Robinson, Randy Pittman, Darrell Jackson.
  • These players are expected to be the foundation of the team’s identity.
  • They combine skill with leadership qualities, making them locker room cornerstones.
  • Expect them to set the tone for culture and performance throughout the season.


*This would be a red flag for me......... your talent anchor/identity are alllllllll transfers. Norvell has been there for how long and he had no one to set his culture that he recruited. None.
 
grover said:
"6. Tony White Has Work to Do
  • White (DC) faces a cultural challenge on defense: instilling physicality and accountability.
  • He emphasizes toughness, aggressiveness, and constant high energy.
  • Willing to live with freshman mistakes if they bring physical play (e.g., Desire twins).
  • The dismissal of Conrad Hussey reflected a need to cut ties with “me-first” attitudes.
  • Re-establishing physicality across the whole defense will be a gradual process, not instant."

Brutal considering we already know their QB is a JAG and the offense will be inconsistent at best. And if they're expecting Darrell Jackson to be a leader, they're going to be disappointed.
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There’s so many red flags in that report. Downplaying expectations on their QB, saying depth is basically paper thin, relying on a bunch of TR FR. Being in year 5 and having cultural issues
 
bdcane4eva said:
Still gonna be a 2 win team... equally as dismal as last season..maybe more comedy tho..
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Think they’re a 4-8/6-6 team. I watched some of Castellanos’ tape from last year and the year before. Definitely some athletic wow moments, but some major head scratchers too. The type of guy that’ll scramble and throw a beautiful pass, but the next play will overthrow a guy open in the flat by ten yards.

Doubt Norvell gets fired this year considering the money he’s owed.
 
FL Cane said:
Think they’re a 4-8/6-6 team. I watched some of Castellanos’ tape from last year and the year before. Definitely some athletic wow moments, but some major head scratchers too. The type of guy that’ll scramble and throw a beautiful pass, but the next play will overthrow a guy open in the flat by ten yards.

Doubt Norvell gets fired this year considering the money he’s owed.
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Who could they replace him with and succeed? Do they have a Colombian mafia and billionaires club ready to step in and pay up to rebuild that team over many years? I just don’t see it but maybe they can pull a rabbit out of that hat. I think they’re going to be wandering the desert for another decade with or without the creepy shoulder masseuse.
 
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grover said:
Who could they replace him with and succeed? Do they have a Colombian mafia and billionaires club ready to step in and pay up to rebuild that team over many years? I just don’t see it but maybe they can pull a rabbit out of that hat. I think they’re going to be wandering the desert for another decade with or without the creepy shoulder masseuse.
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They’re still a very good brand and would attract almost any candidate for the right money. It will be a rebuild though. I could definitely see them throwing Hail Mary offers to Saban and Urban. One candidate I think would be at the top of their list would be Kenny Dillingham. He liked Tallahassee and has done exceptionally well at ASU. Leipold from Kansas is another one. They probably take a pass at Deion, but I don’t think health wise or commitment wise he would be up to it.
 
FL Cane said:
They’re still a very good brand and would attract almost any candidate for the right money. It will be a rebuild though. I could definitely see them throwing Hail Mary offers to Saban and Urban. One candidate I think would be at the top of their list would be Kenny Dillingham. He liked Tallahassee and has done exceptionally well at ASU. Leipold from Kansas is another one. They probably take a pass at Deion, but I don’t think health wise or commitment wise he would be up to it.
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They have that kind of money?
 
grover said:
"6. Tony White Has Work to Do
  • White (DC) faces a cultural challenge on defense: instilling physicality and accountability.
  • He emphasizes toughness, aggressiveness, and constant high energy.
  • Willing to live with freshman mistakes if they bring physical play (e.g., Desire twins).
  • The dismissal of Conrad Hussey reflected a need to cut ties with “me-first” attitudes.
  • Re-establishing physicality across the whole defense will be a gradual process, not instant."

Brutal considering we already know their QB is a JAG and the offense will be inconsistent at best. And if they're expecting Darrell Jackson to be a leader, they're going to be disappointed.
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I still can't believe they fired their DC, literally won every game while travis was hurt thanks to the defense as well as the ACC championship.

Last year their defense was their only bright spot.
 
FL Cane said:
They’re still a very good brand and would attract almost any candidate for the right money. It will be a rebuild though. I could definitely see them throwing Hail Mary offers to Saban and Urban. One candidate I think would be at the top of their list would be Kenny Dillingham. He liked Tallahassee and has done exceptionally well at ASU. Leipold from Kansas is another one. They probably take a pass at Deion, but I don’t think health wise or commitment wise he would be up to it.
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I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest if they went full desperation mode and brought back Jimbo. He wants back into coaching and it isn't any crazier than the rumors of Alabama wanting Norvell after Saban left.
 
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