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RVACane said:
I don’t know the true effects of pinning the thread yet as it’s really been dead on their board. @TheOriginalCane and I both read it and we both know that the Tears thread is pinned. We would have posted screenshots from their board if there was anything going on. There’s very little.
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Very true. I was shocked by how little there is on the SwampAss 247 boards right now.

Oh, but plenty of "early enrollee spring rewind features"...
 
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BALLHAWKU said:
Yeah I just can’t read it , we. All need to chip in and get some spies with vip access to on fsu , gators boards 😂
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Number1CanesFan said:
I went through the FSU 2024 roster and counted their 2023 production. If you include the catches from their transfer WRs, the entire 2024 FSU WR room had the same number of catches as Jacolby George. He had 57 which matches FSU's room including their transfers.

JACOLBY GEORGE - 57

FSU WRs (including transfers) 57 54

With Jacobs in the portal, FSU's entire WR room now has less 2023 production than Jacolby George.

FSU 2024 WRs with 2023 Catches

JA'KHI DOUGLAS – 14​

MALIK BENSON – 13​

DARION WILLIAMSON - 9​

KENTRON POITIER – 6​

DESTYN HILL - 6​

HYKEEM WILLIAMS – 5​

VANDREVIUS JACOBS – 3​

DEUCE SPANN - 1​

JALEN BROWN - 0​

JEREMIAH GIEDRYS – 0​

BJ GIBSON – 0​

CARSON PIELOCK – 0​

ZAMARI MCKENLEY – 0​

XAVIER JOHNSON – 0​

Not much production. Hey, but Norvell says they're strong and fast.!!!​

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I did a breakdown of them earlier in this thread.

Even Isaiah Horton had more production than all their WRs except Douglas.

Really incredible that they think they're anything better than an 8-4 team with one of the worst WR rooms in the ACC.
 
Uh, wouldn't this mean that teams could double-cover him, then?

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Oh, and it looks like Houston spread the ball around. Five guys with more than 20 catches, and averaging more than 10 yards per catch., while scoring touchdowns.

Not bad. Not bad...


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TheOriginalCane said:
"Well-known".

Thank goodness we have their former coaches on our staff to warn us about that...

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These Nole fans are as delusional as the Gator. Our 2nd team OL is as good as their 1st team. They say we have no depth? They should check their trenches. They have little to nothing behind their portal starters. Just look at Norvell's high school recruiting the previous 4 cycles. A few blue chip trench players on each side of the ball in each of his 4 years.

NOTE: I counted Blue Chips as having 4-star+ on at least 2 of the 4 recruiting services.

FSU Blue Chip Trench Recruiting (4-star+)
2024 OL: 1 DL:2
2023 OL: 1 DL:2
2022 OL: 5 DL:1
2021 OL: 1 DL:2

Miami Blue Chip Trench Recruiting (4-star+)
2024 OL: 0 DL:6
2023 OL: 3 DL:4
2022 OL: 1 DL:3
2021 OL: 3 DL:2

In the last 4 cycles, FSU has a slight edge at OL blue chip recruiting. To FSU's credit, they recruited well on the OL in 2022, which was Mario's transition class where he had 1-2 weeks to salvage the class. 2022 is FSU's outlier. They've only picked up 1 blue chip OL each year in 3 of the last 4 years.

The FSU DL recruiting is good, but not great. Definitely not championship caliber. They've picked up 2 blue chips on the DL 3 of the last 4 cycles.

For the Miami OL, just looking at blue chip counts, the OL recruiting is similar, but we know it's not. We have multiple top 100 OL, FSU has 0.

The Miami DL recruiting is superior to FSU's DL recruiting. Miami had 6 blue chip DL in 2024 and 15 in the last 4 cycles, which is more than double what FSU brought in.

Over the past 4 years, FSU's had 15 blue chip trench players, while Miami has had 22. In the last 2 years, FSU had 6, while Miami had 13. Advantage Miami.

Let's take a deeper look into top 300 trench players to get a better comparison of the quality of the recruiting. These are players that are top 300 overall nationally among all positions. This is where the story is really told.

FSU Top 201-300 Trench Players___Miami Top 201-300 Trench Players
2024 OL: 1 DL:1-----------------------2024 OL: 0 DL:1
2023 OL: 0 DL:2-----------------------2023 OL: 0 DL:0
2022 OL: 0 DL:1-----------------------2022 OL: 0 DL:0
2021 OL: 1 DL:0-----------------------2021 OL: 1 DL:0


FSU Top 101-200 Trench Players___Miami Top 101-200 Trench Players
2024 OL: 0 DL:1-----------------------2024 OL: 0 DL:0
2023 OL: 1 DL:0-----------------------2023 OL: 0 DL:1
2022 OL: 1 DL:0-----------------------2022 OL: 0 DL:1
2021 OL: 0 DL:0-----------------------2021 OL: 1 DL:0


FSU Top 1-100 Trench Players______Miami Top 1-100 Trench Players
2024 OL: 0 DL:0-----------------------2024 OL: 0 DL:4
2023 OL: 0 DL:0-----------------------2023 OL: 2 DL:2
2022 OL: 0 DL:0-----------------------2022 OL: 0 DL:1
2021 OL: 0 DL:0-----------------------2021 OL: 1 DL:0

Looking at the breakdown of top trench players by group for the last 4 recruiting cycles, It's the last two recruiting cycles that tell real story. No coincidence that these were Mario's first two full recruiting cycles.

In the past 2 cycles, FSU has had 4 trench players 201-300, while Miami has had 1.
In the past 2 cycles, FSU has had 2 trench players 101-200, while Miami has had 1.
In the past 2 cycles, FSU has had 0 trench players 001-100, while Miami has had 8.

The big picture is FSU is getting good top 300 trenches, while Miami is getting top 100 game changers. The fact is Miami has recruited at least 1 top 100 trench player each year for the past 4 years and 8 in the last two recruiting cycles, while FSU has recruited NONE.

For context, Mario's recruiting of the trenches is superior to Norvell despite Norvell having 4 seasons at FSU with back to back 10+ wins for a 23-4 winning record, while Mario's record is 12-13. Mario's 12-13 is still better than Norvell's first two years at FSU where he was 8-13.

So, as you can see, the trench recruiting is far superior for Miami. The trend is only going to get better and the gap wider for Miami when the double digit wins come in.

Those dopes at FSU are clueless fans drinking their own nut juice. Their trench depth is NOT superior to Miami's. In fact, quite the opposite.
 
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