Maybe your memory is starting to fade, the penn disgrace morons were pathetic, but facts are facts, they recruited real well at linebacker, just kept kicking them off the teams. That freshmen group with denzel, eddie johnson and gionni paul were the Truth, jermaine grace came along, you're smoking dope if you don't think had those 3 been able to play all 3 years together they would be me tioned as one of the best trio's to come thru here. I threw Kirby in their on athleticism, his football instincts were below par!