ND preview (long analysis)

My concerns is ND O-line vs D-line (can't let them try and overwhelm us), Our O-line vs ND D-line (ND D-line wasn't good last year but u wouldn't have known that watching the game - we have a new O-line though), Rosier (decision making, accuracy, and limiting turnovers Ints or fumbles.), QB runs (that QB can house it), and making the initial tackle (they have a lot of yards after contact).

Agreed on our O-line. Notre Dame doesn't have the luxury of launching Linder into Kaaya's lap every other play. Gauthier actually has a set of balls.

This.
- KC at tackle and is probably our best performer on the OL.
- Linda isn't here to be ND's b*tch
- ND DL Jones who wrecked the game last year isn't there anymore.
- Gauthier doesn't typically get overwhelmed and FSU has better DT.
- Our run offense suddenly improved when big Don started.
- If we play the same scheme we played last game to take away VT running game (which was 4-2-5) we should be good in good shape.

Um.....not sure you want to go with a 4-2-5.....Wake played a version of that (I know MIAMI isn't Wake) but they still ran up over 700 yards of offense....without Adams the entire game or Wimbush in the 4th.


Play ND close up front and play gap conscious. don't worry about penetrating as much as plugging up the holes. and play zone against the receivers. Force them to find the open spots. put your most athletic LB on Wimbush the entire game. You'll need someone on him. He'd rather pass believe it or not, but he obviously isn't afraid to run and he is very dangerous when he takes off. 14 TD's and 700 yards, about 28 TD's and 1500 total yards responsible for, and that's missing an entire game (UNC).
That's not how we play defense and we won't change for this game. We'll give up some biggish runs, in the hopes of putting them behind the sticks.....pin our ears back and make Wimbush throw.

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Long? Come on mane not all of our attention spans are shot
 
My concerns is ND O-line vs D-line (can't let them try and overwhelm us), Our O-line vs ND D-line (ND D-line wasn't good last year but u wouldn't have known that watching the game - we have a new O-line though), Rosier (decision making, accuracy, and limiting turnovers Ints or fumbles.), QB runs (that QB can house it), and making the initial tackle (they have a lot of yards after contact).

Agreed on our O-line. Notre Dame doesn't have the luxury of launching Linder into Kaaya's lap every other play. Gauthier actually has a set of balls.

This.
- KC at tackle and is probably our best performer on the OL.
- Linda isn't here to be ND's b*tch
- ND DL Jones who wrecked the game last year isn't there anymore.
- Gauthier doesn't typically get overwhelmed and FSU has better DT.
- Our run offense suddenly improved when big Don started.
- If we play the same scheme we played last game to take away VT running game (which was 4-2-5) we should be good in good shape.

Um.....not sure you want to go with a 4-2-5.....Wake played a version of that (I know MIAMI isn't Wake) but they still ran up over 700 yards of offense....without Adams the entire game or Wimbush in the 4th.


Play ND close up front and play gap conscious. don't worry about penetrating as much as plugging up the holes. and play zone against the receivers. Force them to find the open spots. put your most athletic LB on Wimbush the entire game. You'll need someone on him. He'd rather pass believe it or not, but he obviously isn't afraid to run and he is very dangerous when he takes off. 14 TD's and 700 yards, about 28 TD's and 1500 total yards responsible for, and that's missing an entire game (UNC).
That's not how we play defense and we won't change for this game. We'll give up some biggish runs, in the hopes of putting them behind the sticks.....pin our ears back and make Wimbush throw.

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ND has played differently depending on their opponent. It can be done.

USC and NC STATE tried to "force" Wimbush to throw, and that turned into 2 touchdown passes in the first quarter against each team (4 total).

Wimbush absolutely destroyed USC, and had a good game vs NC State. If Wimbush gets comfortable early, it could be a loooong day. ND is very difficult to defend is Wimbush gets going.

a 4-2-5 against a run oriented team that is this physical is a mistake IMO, but maybe it will work out for you ND has lineman that can take two players on their own, so a 6 man front is very dangerous to do against ND.

You can say I'm a homer, but anyone that knows me, knows I try to be fair. I read many inaccuracies about Adams on this board. He's very fast for a guy his size (clocked at 23MPH) is more elusive than he gets credit for, and leads the COUNTRY in yards after contact at nearly 7 yards, so sayin he lacks power (as suggested in this thread) is not accurate at all.

I've watched ND all season and can easily tell you how to win: stop the run.

If ND has early success moving the ball, I think ND will win and maybe by double digits (which can mean 10 points or 20). Georgia had success because they were able to stop the run and force the offense to be one dimensional. Coach Long knows what he has now though, and knows who can succeed where. Wimbush is a better passer than he gets credit for. His yards per pass attempt is around 9 yards, and that's while completing around 55% of his passes.

You will see him overthrow receivers in this game (he can throw it 70 yards easily), and you will also see two or three drops by the WR's. It's happened all year. Otherwise he'd be around 60 percent, which isnt horrible. Not great, but not bad either.

ND has a very good offense, and is very opportunistic defensively. They lead the country in points off of turnovers, with about 14 points per game.

If Miami wants to win, aside from stopping the run (obvious), they have to be efficient offensively and not turn the ball over. That takes about 14 points away from ND right there. that will give them a great change at winning.
 
THE unit I’m worried about most is the UM offense. Not ND’s defense or offense. If our offense is consistent and keeps this moving instead of having some of those first half stalls from earlier in the season then we win

Richt is right that the OL can't impose its will yet, but that doesn't mean that the O can't be effective. Don't have to blow ND off the line.
1) Dallas has great hands, use the back as a receiver. No need to run into brick walls. A 4 yard pass is as good as a four yard run.
2) I've been saying it for the last three games - use Dallas in the Wildcat 5-6 times, bring in 2 extra blockers, and get numbers on the line. Dallas can be especially helpful on the goal line.

would love to see Dallas and the wildcat as our new red zone wrinkle. Waiting to see that this game.
 
Why would quarters be a good vertical pass opportunity?
 
Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...
 
Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?
 
Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

You literally could not have watched a game of UM for the last two years and make such an inane comment. Heck you couldn't even have watched our game vs you last year. Diaz and Richt have owned the second half since they've been here.
 
Other key to the game (and way to minimize chance of Malik throwing picks) : our big bodied WRs in the short pass game. Until ND squeezes down, they are going to play that shell D and keep the big play in front. I don't want to see Richt calling for shots downfield until they bring up the safeties, which they will after getting chewed up underneath. I don't think Rosier should be trying to hit guys in stride- run quick routes underneath the D and put the ball into Richards and Langham's chests. The ND dbs aren't going to run through those two to get INTs or be able to jump their routes. Our big WRs have the athletic ability to break tackles and turn up field, if they get tackled, no big deal we still picked up 7 yards. Harley and Thomas will kill them over the top once ND is forced to get out of its base D.

ND's D is the defensive equivalent of the GT offense. They thrive on impatience, which leads to mistakes. But if you are patient, there is a 100% chance that you can beat their scheme.

The wildcard imo, is Dallas- I would move him around and I don't think ND has an answer for him. Too fast for an lb to cover and he'll run over dbs.
 
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Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?

I watched a Syracuse team that runs more plays than anyone in the country come to Miami and 98 plays or something crazy like that in an attempt to wear Miami down. They were the ones who wore down. There is no replicating the humidity...just isn’t the same. Miami will be the better conditioned team.
 
Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?

ND played 3 of their 4 big games at home. You are discounting the impact of important non-statistical factors. Miami playing at home, crowd noise, energy, and emotions Miami team will play with. Don't under estimate how Miami plays being the underdog, being disrespected by almost everybody including local sports talking heads like that self promoting Dan Le Batard.
 
Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

You literally could not have watched a game of UM for the last two years and make such an inane comment. Heck you couldn't even have watched our game vs you last year. Diaz and Richt have owned the second half since they've been here.


I watch every ND game, saw ND vs Miami last year, and Miami vs VT this year. The comment I made, I am making in reference to this year, not last. both teams are well conditioned, but as the game goes on the speed "advantage" will equal out. That's why I'm saying an early lead would be helpful for Miami. Otherwise I think ND has an advantage. If MIAMI can't pull ahead with a speed advantage, then it will be tough for them to win. I just trust what I've seen this year. ND's physicality has beaten everyone this year other than Georgia (and ND could have won that game if not for a last minute strip sack and fumble recovery by Georgia)
 
Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?

ND played 3 of their 4 big games at home. You are discounting the impact of important non-statistical factors. Miami playing at home, crowd noise, energy, and emotions Miami team will play with. Don't under estimate how Miami plays being the underdog, being disrespected by almost everybody including local sports talking heads like that self promoting Dan Le Batard.

ND has actually played better away than at home this year. They rush for more yards and average more points per game and less points against. I know it's not the same atmosphere as Miami, but ND wont be intimidated by that. They play in hostile environments all the time. Michigan is usually the worst (for ND).

But given the implications, past history, etc, this will EASILY be the most difficult environment for ND this year. EASILY.
 
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I dare say Miami has a better defense than Georgia. So, ND has not seen a defense like Miami this year.
 
Given how our D has played this year, I would not be surprised, despite the crowd, to see our D get gashed a bit early, giving up a couple scores, but then they clamp it down, esp in 2H, and our O gets it done.

Hopefully they dominate both sides from get go.

ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?

I watched a Syracuse team that runs more plays than anyone in the country come to Miami and 98 plays or something crazy like that in an attempt to wear Miami down. They were the ones who wore down. There is no replicating the humidity...just isn’t the same. Miami will be the better conditioned team.

98 plays will tire anyone. But Syracuse is not conditioned like ND either, nor can they rotate their players like ND or Miami. 98 plays? Thats insane
 
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ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?

ND played 3 of their 4 big games at home. You are discounting the impact of important non-statistical factors. Miami playing at home, crowd noise, energy, and emotions Miami team will play with. Don't under estimate how Miami plays being the underdog, being disrespected by almost everybody including local sports talking heads like that self promoting Dan Le Batard.

ND has actually played better away than at home this year. They rush for more yards and average more points per game and less points against.

That is a misleading stat. Other than MSU, which teams you played on the road again?
 
ND does more damage in the second half from a physical standpoint. You'll need to go in to the second half with a lead.

So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?

I watched a Syracuse team that runs more plays than anyone in the country come to Miami and 98 plays or something crazy like that in an attempt to wear Miami down. They were the ones who wore down. There is no replicating the humidity...just isn’t the same. Miami will be the better conditioned team.

98 plays will tire anyone. But Syracuse is not conditioned like ND either, nor can they rotate their players like ND or Miami. 98 plays? Thats insane

The point he is making is those 98 plays DID NOT tire Miami.
 
So does Miami. I would be more concerned about ND and there conditioning level with the heat and humidity. Miami has proven to be a second half team all year and that won’t change tomorrow night. If ND doesn’t have a lead at halftime they have no chance of winning. Miami is just a better conditioned and deeper team. Facts are facts...

Not sure who is better conditioned. ND has worn everyone down. Miami has too. That SHOULD mean we get a good game for 4 quarters. ND rotates a lot, and has played a lot of 2nd, 3rd, and 4th teamers (walk ons).


It was in the 70's in South Bend up until about 2 weeks ago. ND has been practicing indoors with the heat (and humidity as a secondary effect) cranked up for the last few weeks. I don't think it will be an issue. I mean all you can really do is stay hidrated as much as possible. Head and humidity can be dealt with. I think it's harder for a southern team to go play up north, than vice versa...

As far as facts are facts, I'd like to know what you base that on?

I watched a Syracuse team that runs more plays than anyone in the country come to Miami and 98 plays or something crazy like that in an attempt to wear Miami down. They were the ones who wore down. There is no replicating the humidity...just isn’t the same. Miami will be the better conditioned team.

98 plays will tire anyone. But Syracuse is not conditioned like ND either, nor can they rotate their players like ND or Miami. 98 plays? Thats insane

The point he is making is those 98 plays DID NOT tire Miami.

I get that. that's also what I was implying. ND has not tired this year either. that's the benefit of being able to rotate early and often.
 
Again, ND played better on the road because most of their road games were against inferior teams. They have not played a tough, violent, opportunistic solid team on the road like Miami. The best team they played was UGA and it was at home. Oh, and they lost that one.
 
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