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NCAA Meets with Ruiz to discuss NIL deals

For what it is worth Neuheisel and Childers were completely clowning the NC2A for 10 straight minutes thinking they could do anything to Ruiz. This included them hypothesizing that Ruiz has so little regard for the NC2A’s power that he probably was wearing flip flops and a Tommy Bahama shirt.

More importantly, they stressed that Justice Cavanaugh and his 8 colleagues on the Supreme Court are just itching to slap down the NC2A again as soon as it takes any action limiting how much or in what form of NIL money a student athlete can make.

They displayed a very good understanding of how the legal process has completely gotten away from the NC2A and how they are nothing more than a paper tiger on this subject.
 
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TheOriginalCane said:
Yeah, and I'm not trying to fight anyone, and I'm not trying to act like all the lawyers on the board know more than everyone else.

But I'm tired of non-lawyers acting like you can just sue anyone for anything anytime you want AND you'll have a case AND you'll win. It's just nutty.
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MovingZen said:
in like to think they're interviewing Ruiz because he actually has a business and seems to be following the rules.. so they will know what 'correct way to do it' looks like when they go see the other teams who are just blatantly paying players. Of course, I'm ******* delusional and the ncaa is only here because the $ec told them to come here and investigate Ruiz and bring the ******* cloud back.
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Initially my thoughts as well but the NCAA is so-ucked up i quickly tossed the idea out as wishful thinking. NCAA and Mark Emmert
quickly going the way of the dinosaur..... about time and good riddance
 
AtlAtty said:
For what it is worth Neuheisel and Childers were completely clowning the NC2A for 10 straight minutes thinking they could do anything to Ruiz. This included them hypothesizing that Ruiz has so little regard for the NC2A’s power that he probably was wearing flip flops and a Tommy Bahama shirt.

more importantly, they stressed that Justice Cavanaugh and his 8 colleagues on the Supreme Court are just itching to slip down the NC2A again as soon as it takes any action limiting how much or in what form of NIL money a student athlete can make.

they displayed a very good understanding of how the legal process has completely gotten away from the NC2A and how they are nothing more than a paper tiger on this subject.
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listen to Neuheisel & Childers and i can tell you that hate is to mild expression of emotion for Childers in regards to NCAA & Emmert. they also clowned NCAA on suspending a OU fan for flipping up a Horns down side as well.
 
scrantoncane said:
There is some real fantasyland stuff going on in this thread.

"The NCAA is out to get Miami." "The SEC snitched on us because they know we are back."

Sometimes the correct answer is the simplest one (although this is merely my opinion):

Ruiz was on Twitter bragging that he paid the K-State kid $800K, doing daily spaces with DannyBoyCane, (justifiably) calling Saban a pvssy, etc.


Despite aTm allegedly shelling out $30M to recruits, can you name one single guy from their NIL collective? How about Iamaleava and his $8M from Tennessee... can you name any of those boosters that are footing that bill?

Ruiz was the loudest, so that is where they started. Can they get the names of the aTm boosters? Sure, all the NIL contracts have to be submitted or whatever. I am sure the NCAA has people working on that as I type this. Miami isn't the only school they are inquiring about, despite what you read in this thread. But why not start with the guy that every college football fan now knows his name, regardless of your school affiliation, because he is so publically braggadocious about it?

NIL needs some sort of regulation, and inquiries into the current state of the landscape are a necessary step towards achieving that goal - you need data/information about what is going on before you can propose a solution. For example, how can you make a salary cap without knowing how much every school is currently spending?

The NCAA still has a job to do, even if it has no teeth right now. Those investigators that HAD teeth, before the Supreme Court ruling? Well, they still have/need jobs, and they need to do something to justify their paychecks.

There is nothing to see here. Click-bait writers making headlines seem worse than it is, at least partly because Ruiz is bafflingly still doing interviews about it. You can't go after Miami for something all 131 teams are doing, or at least trying to do. It is a non-story.
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This is what I am talking about in the bolded segment of the above-post. Why (a) do the interview with On3 and (b) retweet it?

I imagine he is trying to come across as above-board, transparent, not scared... all those things. But, he has also been arguing back and forth on twitter about NIL with some irrelevant dude for the past 24 hours. So, idk really.

I am glad Miami has a guy like Ruiz so the football team can stay competitive, and what Ruiz does for these student-athletes is great. But on a personal level, this dude is hard to like & I wish he would just STFU. I don't know his background, but he certainly acts like a guy who wasn't invited to the high school parties and is trying very hard to be cool now. Act like you've been there before when you score a touchdown.
 
scrantoncane said:
I imagine he is trying to come across as above-board, transparent, not scared... all those things. But, he has also been arguing back and forth on twitter about NIL with some irrelevant dude for the past 24 hours. So, idk really.

I am glad Miami has a guy like Ruiz so the football team can stay competitive, and what Ruiz does for these student-athletes is great. But on a personal level, this dude is hard to like & I wish he would just STFU. I don't know his background, but he certainly acts like a guy who wasn't invited to the high school parties and is trying very hard to be cool now. Act like you've been there before when you score a touchdown.
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This is where I want him to shut it down...

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canefan said:
once again I didn't try and twist anything, just asked a specific question as to why the NCAA talking to Ruiz would mess up an NIL deal for one particular kid if everything Ruiz is doing in the NIL space is legit and UM compliance has no problems with how its gone so far (which appears to be the case). I do think its weird you think there is some kind of hidden agenda on my end.

To what RVA is referencing above I do think there are others on this board (not you before you get defensive again) who make themselves out to be insiders, and I named names in another thread, who are straight blowing smoke up people's butts when it comes to this recruiting class OR the info they have isn't nearly as rock solid as they think it is. I've seen enough Cvettes, Arizs, and Dan Sileos in my day to know what's legit and what's not.
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Info changes. That said, I think people who haven’t seen as much over as many years can easily get caught up in the hype and koolaid absorbed from people close to the thick of things.

Anyone who thinks we were shutting down Bama and UGA off the bat is slurping and deluding themselves. I think it’s this situation not one of ill will.
 
Cribby said:
We dropped out.
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BP Joe said:
This is actually good news. If I had to bet, Ruiz has the counter-suits in the hopper, and then discovery and subpoenas require ALL the information to be revealed. Then all of a sudden it will be ... crickets from the NCAA and SEC.
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This is why I think people complaining about his social media publicity are wrong.

Ruiz is WAY ahead of the NCAA and has contingencies for every scenario.

He is laying a trap for them and if they step wrong, they will expose the very schools they are trying to protect.

Ncaa comes after Miami and they have to go to court UNDER OATH with penalty of perjury. They are SUICIDAL IMBECILES if they open that can of worms.

They don’t come after Miami and we get the publicity.

Ruiz plans to win either way.
 
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RVACane said:
Info changes. That said, I think people who haven’t seen as much over as many years can easily get caught up in the hype and koolaid absorbed from people close to the thick of things.

Anyone who thinks we were shutting down Bama and UGA off the bat is slurping and deluding themselves. I think it’s this situation not one of ill will.
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Ive been clear from the beginning we will never be a tier one program with spending. I’ve said the 6-10 range is the likely sweet spot under Mario as for as average recruiting classes. . I dom‘t see the top 3-5 happening that much but I don’t see the 15-20’s happening much like previous coaches. We’re in a much better spot though.
 
Boarcane said:
He’s a VERY smart man. They won’t **** with him or Miami. It’s all optics. Move along nothing to see here. However, he’s also smart enough to know it’s the quiet mouse that gets the cheese. His eyes are WIDE OPEN NOW.
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JFC! Did it really take this to open his eyes?

Most of us here have been saying for months that he needs to tone it down. Not saying he’s not a smart guy but he’s been careless with his mouth.

He’s a Cane to the bone so hoping it ends here and like you said, silent assassin takes over.
 
I've come 180 on what Ruiz is doing in terms of NIL. Agree with his approach 100%. The whole point of NIL is the marketing value, and by being as public as possible, promoting the deals with the recruits he sponsors as much as possible, he's following the spirit and letter of the law.

I don't think his SPAC is worth tens of billions. SPACs are just too speculative. But I'm sure his company is still worth a lot intrinsically if the data and recovery processes he claims to have are legit, which I'm sure they are to at least some degree. Meanwhile, there is no question the guy knows what he's doing in terms of NIL.

He's schooling the NCAA here. I just hope one of his lawyer buddies does a class action lawsuit on the bag schools by showing how they're endangering their recruits with illegal NIL deals.
 
TruCane81 said:
This is why I think people complaining about his social media publicity are wrong.

Ruiz is WAY ahead of the NCAA and has contingencies for every scenario.

He is laying a trap for them and if they step wrong, they will expose the very schools they are trying to protect.

Ncaa comes after Miami and they have to go to court UNDER OATH with penalty of perjury. They are SUICIDAL IMBECILES if they open that can of worms.

They don’t come after Miami and we get the publicity.

Ruiz plans to win either way.
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Yeah...no.

No "traps are being set". The new (relative) media silence by Ruiz is not completely of his own choosing.

Too many people have made this binary. "John Ruiz vs. the NCAA". That is wrong and misleading.

The situation is far more complex. There are valid reasons for cutting back on social media, particularly Twitter flame battles.

If you honestly think that Ruiz arguing with some random Gaytor MBA student is driving traffic to LifeWallet, I don't know how to assist with better understanding.
 
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I don't understand the argument people make about him being "too loud". The state laws govern here so what he's doing is either legal or illegal. If what he's doing is legal then who cares how loud he is. What is there to hide or be shy about? If what he's doing is illegal then it's a matter for actual authorities, not the NCAA.
 
AtlAtty said:
For what it is worth Neuheisel and Childers were completely clowning the NC2A for 10 straight minutes thinking they could do anything to Ruiz. This included them hypothesizing that Ruiz has so little regard for the NC2A’s power that he probably was wearing flip flops and a Tommy Bahama shirt.

More importantly, they stressed that Justice Cavanaugh and his 8 colleagues on the Supreme Court are just itching to slap down the NC2A again as soon as it takes any action limiting how much or in what form of NIL money a student athlete can make.

They displayed a very good understanding of how the legal process has completely gotten away from the NC2A and how they are nothing more than a paper tiger on this subject.
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Bet there are very few 9-0 decisions rendered by the Supreme Court in recent, polarized times. Hard to believe the NCAA missed their clear message.
 
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