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NCAA Meets with Ruiz to discuss NIL deals

Boarcane said:
The state of Texas has different laws. They have more room to push against the ncaa. Fwiw
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Bull and ****e. The NCAA is not asking Ruiz about his violation of technicalities of the Florida law vs. the Texas law.

Boosters getting involved in recruitment inducements is against the rules in all 50 states, regardless.
 
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AlexCane said:
I'm not arguing with your post because I agree with it. I would prefer silence too. That said, deals with players has to be disclosed to the programs (right?) and to the NCAA (?) and to the IRS so it's not like his tweets alone instigated the limelight. It was going to happen regardless. (But I do not like disclosing deals and establishing a market for what a player is worth, which only makes future negotiations more difficult.)
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All of his deals are vetted by Miami compliance as well
 
This is actually good news. If I had to bet, Ruiz has the counter-suits in the hopper, and then discovery and subpoenas require ALL the information to be revealed. Then all of a sudden it will be ... crickets from the NCAA and SEC.
 
This could end up a blessing. It might be a good idea for John Ruiz to have someone in the NCAA office’s ear. I’m 100% confident everything he’s done is above water and now that he’s opened the books, he might be able to convince the NCAA to make others open their books. A high powered lawyer with deep pockets can be very convincing. He definitely pulls more weight than anyone in our athletic department would
 
I’m hoping from all accounts and recent interviews that the ncaa is actually inquiring and in some way consulting Ruiz.

If they have any ounce of credibility left they should listen to what Feinbaum and cowherd said that “what Ruiz is doing should actually be the blueprint for NIL”.

However, given how butt hurt they’ve been with our 5 nattys and being right smack in the middle of all the talent that makes the sec and Bama win then
I doubt it.
 
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BP Joe said:
This is actually good news. If I had to bet, Ruiz has the counter-suits in the hopper, and then discovery and subpoenas require ALL the information to be revealed. Then all of a sudden it will be ... crickets from the NCAA and SEC.
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Look, I'm not just responding to you. I'm not mad at you personally.

But can ANY of these "John Ruiz is going to sue the **** out of everyone" bros explain:

A. What the NCAA is going to do to Ruiz personally
B. How ANY booster has EVER had standing to countersue the NCAA when the NCAA penalizes a UNIVERSITY for something a booster has done
C. On what basis anyone thinks that John Ruiz has any lawsuit claim against the NCAA

To date, the NCAA has not publicly said anything against John Ruiz or LifeWallet, though plenty of journalists and fake-journalists have done so. In the past, outside of state criminal charges, the NCAA has never reallly taken any actions against a booster, personally, outside of requiring a university to disassociate itself from a booster who has committed violations. And for decades, the NCAA has actually punished UNIVERSITIES for the actions of boosters, not the boosters themselves.

So I have NO IDEA what the Ruiz For Life Bros think is going to happen here. How they think John Ruiz is going to sue the NCAA when the NCAA hasn't done anything to him, and likely will do nothing to him. The NCAA is entitled to make rules. You can't just walk into a court and say "I don't like this governing body's rules, and even though I am not a coach or player or administrator, I am going to sue to enjoin these new rules."

Yeah, it's just not happening. I'm not sure where this mythical Ruiz v. NCAA lawsuit myth was invented.
 
OrangeBowlMagic said:
Yes. It’s just the way it is. Yet you STILL, after all these ******* years, after KNOWING the microscope we are and ALWAYS will be under, you still have the god**** mental midgets on here who think it’s “cool” for Ruiz to blast his business to anyone who will listen.

Maybe something comes of this, maybe it doesn’t. But it’s just all so goddamned unnecessary.
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I don’t see anything coming from it except maybe Miami twitter being less exciting going forward.
 
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BP Joe said:
This is actually good news. If I had to bet, Ruiz has the counter-suits in the hopper, and then discovery and subpoenas require ALL the information to be revealed. Then all of a sudden it will be ... crickets from the NCAA and SEC.
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There doesn't need to be a counter claim. The NCAA simply cannot be engaged in extensive pre-suit discovery or litigation with too many of these actors. It's too taxing in money, time, and energy.

I'll add that there's nothing for them to go after either.
 
TheOriginalCane said:
Look, I'm not just responding to you. I'm not mad at you personally.

But can ANY of these "John Ruiz is going to sue the **** out of everyone" bros explain:

A. What the NCAA is going to do to Ruiz personally
B. How ANY booster has EVER had standing to countersue the NCAA when the NCAA penalizes a UNIVERSITY for something a booster has done
C. On what basis anyone thinks that John Ruiz has any lawsuit claim against the NCAA

To date, the NCAA has not publicly said anything against John Ruiz or LifeWallet, though plenty of journalists and fake-journalists have done so. In the past, outside of state criminal charges, the NCAA has never reallly taken any actions against a booster, personally, outside of requiring a university to disassociate itself from a booster who has committed violations. And for decades, the NCAA has actually punished UNIVERSITIES for the actions of boosters, not the boosters themselves.

So I have NO IDEA what the Ruiz For Life Bros think is going to happen here. How they think John Ruiz is going to sue the NCAA when the NCAA hasn't done anything to him, and likely will do nothing to him. The NCAA is entitled to make rules. You can't just walk into a court and say "I don't like this governing body's rules, and even though I am not a coach or player or administrator, I am going to sue to enjoin these new rules."

Yeah, it's just not happening. I'm not sure where this mythical Ruiz v. NCAA lawsuit myth was invented.
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You are correct brother that Ruiz isn’t going to sue the NCAA . . .unless the NCAA takes a position that his NIL actions are in violation of NC2A rules and try to take some negative action against his deals. In that case I would expect Ruiz to then have standing as he would be an impacted party. But short of the NC2A taking action against Ruiz’s deal vis a vis student athletes, he isn’t suing anyone and doesn’t need to.
 
Cribby said:
You’re taking a post and bending it and twisting it into what you want it to be. I said there was multiple reasons why we pulled out. The ncaa stuff was a factor but not for the reason you’re insinuating or trying too. Miami was already close to moving on , I posted for a week Miami wasn’t the best offer. Miami was also focusing more on other qb‘s .Then mix in the ncaa sniffing around your operation on top of everything else I mentioned. I’ve posted all of that minus the ncaa part the last week. The drama with this recruitment was already next level before adding this in.
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=he’s not worth it.
 
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AtlAtty said:
You are correct brother that Ruiz isn’t going to sue the NCAA . . .unless the NCAA takes a position that his NIL actions are in violation of NC2A rules and try to take some negative action against his deals. In that case I would expect Ruiz to then have standing as he would be an impacted party. But short of the NC2A taking action against Ruiz’s deal vis a vis student athletes, he isn’t suing anyone and doesn’t need to.
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Yeah, and I'm not trying to fight anyone, and I'm not trying to act like all the lawyers on the board know more than everyone else.

But I'm tired of non-lawyers acting like you can just sue anyone for anything anytime you want AND you'll have a case AND you'll win. It's just nutty.
 
Just asking but could this be the NCAA wanting to meet with him and get his input into how the NIL should work and what they should be looking for as far as who's doing it right and who is not doing this correctly. Or is the 100% a which hunt situation.
 
AtlAtty said:
There really is not the anything the NCAA can do, at least not to Ruiz and UM who made sure they were following the letter of the rule.
I can’t speak to collectives, or how an individual state law might provide schools in that state with broader pover than the NCAA intended. But as to Ruiz and UM, the NCAA is down and out
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this.

in this case, as long as the UM and Ruiz have dotted the i's and crossed the t's, there isn't di*k the NCAA can do ... at least not without risking a huge lawsuit (which they would lose)
 
I plan on sending a strongly worded memo to NCAA HQ.

I will use salty language such as, "Dear Sir", "lookey here beyotch", "you want some", "I will Rusty Pirate your wife and she will LOVE it", and "Sincerely".

Anyone willing to co-sign?
 
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