My rant...

[Coach Macho]

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

*OC Coley still sucks. He was actually impressing me in the 1st half. He used the middle of the field and ****. It was successful though, so he went away from it in the 2nd half. Back to the vertical game. The 2nd pick Morris threw...yup...all verticals as usual. Oh, and I love the play-action plays on 3rd and long. That's a staple with Coley. And I can't forget the back-to-back play-action roll-out passes he called. The first one got snuffed out by the DE so hey, let's call the same play AGAIN.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

 

[Coach Macho]

CaneWasher, I'm getting the vibe that Wildcat isn't your favorite poster... :ibisroflmao:

I have no idea who he/ she is and haven't noticed that screen name until today. I just love it when Johnny High School Coach and his Sunday coaches meetings with five other P.E. teachers thinks that he runs a college defense just the same that an actual top 15 program does it.

So you don't know who I am, have never seen my screen name, but automatically know that I'm clueless. Never read any of my posts before. Never seen my defense on film. Never heard my defensive priciples. But I'm a high school guy so therefore I'm clueless.

How ****** stupid are you? The logic that college coaches automatically know more than all high school coaches just shows how little YOU know about the football world. I got buddies that coach in colleg and will tell you that the logic is completely false. SMH. You're beyond clueless and are simply using the highschool bull**** to shoot down my argument.

If you had any clue about schematics what-so-ever then you would fire shots at me like the other guys in here have. (the ones who know football)

 

[stat1124]

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

*OC Coley still sucks. He was actually impressing me in the 1st half. He used the middle of the field and ****. It was successful though, so he went away from it in the 2nd half. Back to the vertical game. The 2nd pick Morris threw...yup...all verticals as usual. Oh, and I love the play-action plays on 3rd and long. That's a staple with Coley. And I can't forget the back-to-back play-action roll-out passes he called. The first one got snuffed out by the DE so hey, let's call the same play AGAIN.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

 

[Coach Macho]

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

*OC Coley still sucks. He was actually impressing me in the 1st half. He used the middle of the field and ****. It was successful though, so he went away from it in the 2nd half. Back to the vertical game. The 2nd pick Morris threw...yup...all verticals as usual. Oh, and I love the play-action plays on 3rd and long. That's a staple with Coley. And I can't forget the back-to-back play-action roll-out passes he called. The first one got snuffed out by the DE so hey, let's call the same play AGAIN.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

 

[stat1124]

All of what you said would make a more diverse offense. No doubt. However you used two bad examples in your OP and put them on Coach Coley and that just aint the case.

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

*OC Coley still sucks. He was actually impressing me in the 1st half. He used the middle of the field and ****. It was successful though, so he went away from it in the 2nd half. Back to the vertical game. The 2nd pick Morris threw...yup...all verticals as usual. Oh, and I love the play-action plays on 3rd and long. That's a staple with Coley. And I can't forget the back-to-back play-action roll-out passes he called. The first one got snuffed out by the DE so hey, let's call the same play AGAIN.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

 

[Coach Macho]

All of what you said would make a more diverse offense. No doubt. However you used two bad examples in your OP and put them on Coach Coley and that just aint the case.

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

I blamed the pics on Coley? All I said was that the pick to Walford was all verticals, as usual. I didn't say Morris had to throw it there but for God sake give the kid some other options.

How 'bout trips with a vertical from #3 and a crosser from #2. LB carries the vertical then you throw the crosser and let the WR run for a 1st down. LB covers the crosser than you throw the vertical.

We don't do any of that stuff. We don't put defenders in a bind. We don't "high low" defenders.

 

[stat1124]

Seriously.....I just told you he HAD other options on that play. OPEN OPTIONS on that play that he didn't check down to. Again who is that on...not the play itself, not the play caller...but the QB for failing to take advantage that the LB cleared the middle to follow the vertical leaving a huge gaping hole with ur Running back running into it wide open. That Walford play was NOT all verticals. Go look again, Crawford on the right side of your screen running into the middle wide open. If that isnt another option...then I have no idea what your even talking about.

Oh and I believe on the Coley INT we had someone in the flats open for a check down. So neither play HAD to go to the vertical. Morris just threw it there.

All of what you said would make a more diverse offense. No doubt. However you used two bad examples in your OP and put them on Coach Coley and that just aint the case.

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

I blamed the pics on Coley? All I said was that the pick to Walford was all verticals, as usual. I didn't say Morris had to throw it there but for God sake give the kid some other options.

How 'bout trips with a vertical from #3 and a crosser from #2. LB carries the vertical then you throw the crosser and let the WR run for a 1st down. LB covers the crosser than you throw the vertical.

We don't do any of that stuff. We don't put defenders in a bind. We don't "high low" defenders.

 

[Coach Macho]

Seriously.....I just told you he HAD other options on that play. OPEN OPTIONS on that play that he didn't check down to. Again who is that on...not the play itself, not the play caller...but the QB for failing to take advantage that the LB cleared the middle to follow the vertical leaving a huge gaping hole with ur Running back running into it wide open. That Walford play was NOT all verticals. Go look again, Crawford on the right side of your screen running into the middle wide open. If that isnt another option...then I have no idea what your even talking about.

Oh and I believe on the Coley INT we had someone in the flats open for a check down. So neither play HAD to go to the vertical. Morris just threw it there.

All of what you said would make a more diverse offense. No doubt. However you used two bad examples in your OP and put them on Coach Coley and that just aint the case.

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

I blamed the pics on Coley? All I said was that the pick to Walford was all verticals, as usual. I didn't say Morris had to throw it there but for God sake give the kid some other options.

How 'bout trips with a vertical from #3 and a crosser from #2. LB carries the vertical then you throw the crosser and let the WR run for a 1st down. LB covers the crosser than you throw the vertical.

We don't do any of that stuff. We don't put defenders in a bind. We don't "high low" defenders.

Really?

So our best options besides verticals are RB check-downs?

You're not following what I'm saying. You're not debunking my theory either. Whether Morris had a check-down or not isn't my point. **** A CHECK-DOWN! I'm so tired of hearing about check-downs on this site. WHAT ABOUT GETTING WIDE RECEIVERS OPEN WITH CREATIVE ROUTE CONCEPTS?

 

[Big Sky Cane]

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

*OC Coley still sucks. He was actually impressing me in the 1st half. He used the middle of the field and ****. It was successful though, so he went away from it in the 2nd half. Back to the vertical game. The 2nd pick Morris threw...yup...all verticals as usual. Oh, and I love the play-action plays on 3rd and long. That's a staple with Coley. And I can't forget the back-to-back play-action roll-out passes he called. The first one got snuffed out by the DE so hey, let's call the same play AGAIN.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

You obviously missed this video of said play. Starts at :31 seconds:

[video=youtube;LOM4e-BhzdQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOM4e-BhzdQ[/video]

 

[Coach Macho]

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

You obviously missed this video of said play. Starts at :31 seconds:

[video=youtube;LOM4e-BhzdQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOM4e-BhzdQ[/video]

Ok. So it was all verticals with an angle route from the RB. He could've and should've thrown to Crawford.

Doesn't change my opinion about Coley.

And I'm not arguing that Morris is a mental midget either. Dude forces the ball deep alot and misses wide open guys.

My stance on Coley still remains. There's alot of other stuff that I think we should be doing to help Morris out. And this belief doesn't even come directly from me, it comes from the OC guys that I watch the games with. They brought it to my attention. There's many ways to help Morris out.

On another note...Williams probably throws that angle route to Crawford. Just sayin.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

IMO they are playing to Stephen's strengths. His strength is the deep ball from an accuracy standpoint....he's really a pretty bad QB on intermediate throws. I personally hate to see him on roll outs with multiple options....because chances are he usually makes the wrong decision. He is throwing for a higher percentage this year. I personally think Coley is getting a bad rap. He's doing a fine job IMO calling plays.

 

[Coach Macho]

LOL @ that assumption. Like i haven't spoken about schematics with MULTIPLE D-1 coaches over the years. Like i haven't picked their brains every time they talk to me about recruiting one of my players. ************, the guy i learned under was a former D-1 coordinator. The **** i run on defense are NFL and NCAA principles. Nothing i run comes from the high school level. D'Onofrio can't show or tell me anything that I'm not already familiar with. I've sat in on their coaching clinics before, ain't nothing ground breaking about it.

Keep telling yourself that while you're playing in front of 500 fans with 16 year old kids. You don't use 10% of what a college defense uses, and the fact that you think you're on par with them is what makes message boards so insufferable.

I think you have things confused. This is a message board. At least on this one, you're not going to discourage people from discussing football. ****, the last thing you're going to do is discourage people from attempting to discuss the substantive aspects of football.

If you don't like what WildCat (or anyone) has to say about a particular approach to playing defense (as one example), tell him why. Don't tell him he sucks. Tell him why he sucks and why his opinion is wrong. Feel free to address the subject from a substantive standpoint or feel free to go elsewhere.

IMO they are playing to Stephen's strengths. His strength is the deep ball from an accuracy standpoint....he's really a pretty bad QB on intermediate throws. I personally hate to see him on roll outs with multiple options....because chances are he usually makes the wrong decision. He is throwing for a higher percentage this year. I personally think Coley is getting a bad rap. He's doing a fine job IMO calling plays.

Not impressed with him personally but after this thread I'll give him the benefit of the doubt against VT and pay closer attention to Morris and his habits.

 

[CaneWasher]

Not impressed with him personally but after this thread I'll give him the benefit of the doubt against VT and pay closer attention to Morris and his habits.

But your OC buddies said it, and they are all the next Gus Malzahn, so they have to be right.

 

[sebastian91]

I think WildCat brings some of the "just a high school coach" ***** on himself because of the attitude he projects. Maybe he's a great guy in person, but he's a real dyck on message boards. I respect his knowledge of football and enjoy when he breaks down specific plays...that said, I do think he could use an infusion of common sense on some things. There's a lot of assumption and speculation in some of his analyses, which he really shouldn't be doing without knowing what the specifics of a certain play call were...which he could only know by talking to the coaches and/or players. Just my take. I have no beef with him otherwise.

I project the attitude that I know WTF I'm talking about, cause most of the time I do. Have I been wrong before? Sure. The real problem is that most casual fans get offended when someone speaks with conviction and knows their ****. The handful of people on here that football have gone toe to toe with me on subjects and THAT is what I like to see. Don't get mad at me if I talk like I know, just prove me wrong.

You can project the attitude that you know WTF you're talking about without being a dyckhead...just sayin.

 

[bbcane]

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

*OC Coley still sucks. He was actually impressing me in the 1st half. He used the middle of the field and ****. It was successful though, so he went away from it in the 2nd half. Back to the vertical game. The 2nd pick Morris threw...yup...all verticals as usual. Oh, and I love the play-action plays on 3rd and long. That's a staple with Coley. And I can't forget the back-to-back play-action roll-out passes he called. The first one got snuffed out by the DE so hey, let's call the same play AGAIN.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

Roll out flood cuts the field in half. Easy to defend. Maybe give qb run option but ours is cripple. So what offense don't have check downs. Fsu killed us with wide open check downs. I really do not see your logic with that at all. I think you change qbs for fsu game and our offense would suddenly look different.

 

[crossover22[]_[]]

Duke could run harder? Hahahahahaha


Lost me there.

 

[OldhamA]

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

Roll out flood cuts the field in half. Easy to defend. Maybe give qb run option but ours is cripple. So what offense don't have check downs. Fsu killed us with wide open check downs. I really do not see your logic with that at all. I think you change qbs for fsu game and our offense would suddenly look different.

The thing is, this is a smart coaching staff.

If Williams gave them a better chance to win you can bet your *** he'd be starting. Sadly if the coaching staff doesn't trust him over a hobbled, erratic Morris then he's not bringing anything worthwhile to the table in practice.

 

[Big Sky Cane]

Roll out flood cuts the field in half. Easy to defend. Maybe give qb run option but ours is cripple. So what offense don't have check downs. Fsu killed us with wide open check downs. I really do not see your logic with that at all. I think you change qbs for fsu game and our offense would suddenly look different.

All correct......and not to mention we did that **** the whole second half against Florida and we know how that went.

 

[Coach Macho]

what our offense is based means nothing if the defense is taking that away from you. You either check down or throw it away and try again on the next play. The Walford play was a bad read and a bad throw. He should have checked down on it. The Coley play was a vertical, was the right read and Morris just made another bad throw on the play. There was nothing wrong with either play that was called. The problem was in the execution. Execution = Players not Coach. Not a hard concept.

Both INTs have guys coming across the middle open. Morris CHOSE to throw it to the wrong person on Walford...the right person on Coley but just threw a horrible pass. So none of that is on Coley but nice try anyways. Go back and watch if you like but Crawford came off wide open in the middle for a check down with plenty of yards to run...Morris never looked his way but instead forced it into **** near triple coverage. Explain to me how that is on Coley......don't worry....I'll wait.

You're right. Our passing game isn't based on verticals. I must be seeing things. Oh and Morris won't look inside the hashes, beause that's not exactly where we explosed FSU a few times in the first half.

And you think our OC puts our players (particularly our QB) in the best position to make plays? Most of our route concepts lack creativity and are easy to defend. That play to Walford was all verticals, as usual. How 'bout rolling the pocket and running flood concepts? How about a nice lil' stick route for an easy 7 yard throw? We don't make anything easy for our QB. All this nonsense about check-downs. We shouldn't have to rely on check-downs. Our offense is heavily reliant on Duke's legs and deep balls from Morris.

How can anybody without a bias honestly watch other offenses in college and say that our OC is doing a great job? Did you notice how FSU gave Winston easy throws throughout our game? They marched down the field with that stuff. Did Wake's offense look anything like ours?

We were successful in the 1st half because we gave Morris easy intermediate throws. When we resorted to the vertical game everything went to ****. It's not the OC, so I guess Morris just decided not to throw the intermediate balls anymore in the 2nd half?

Roll out flood cuts the field in half. Easy to defend. Maybe give qb run option but ours is cripple. So what offense don't have check downs. Fsu killed us with wide open check downs. I really do not see your logic with that at all. I think you change qbs for fsu game and our offense would suddenly look different.

Easy to defend? How do you figure that?

Every pass play cuts the field in half. Do you think the QB is sitting there looking at both sides of the field. His primary and secondary read are almost always on the same side of the field.

 

[Coach Macho]

Duke could run harder? Hahahahahaha


Lost me there.

Open your eyes and watch the replay. Tell me he's goin full tilt on that 4th down play or that play where he had to reverse field. Watch it and tell me he doesn't unnecessarily stutter step before hitting the hole.