Musings on why so few Miami players have entered the portal

@Brooklyndee suggested that we had turned over 70% of our roster which is +/- 60 players. I know he was just providing an estimate, but do we have a hard count on number of scholarships available?

maybe the avalanche of players leaving is the result of not being able to lure any portal players?
 
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Guessing we have about 4 - 5 spots available if no one else bolts. Gotta think a few more move on.

Honestly I think that works, given what we will realistically be able to get even optimistically?

-OL
-2 DL
-DB
-LB

We do that and we’re at 8 wins knocking on 9 IMO.
 
I expected another wave of transfers out from this team. But so far just Brantley and Ishmael since the big exodus following last season. I can think of several players along the OL and DL I thought would hit the portal, as well as a handful of kids from the back seven on defense. Not sure what to make of that.

From the staff perspective, I can see why having too much turnover, even if it's to clean house, can disrupt the team. And even though 2K kids have hit the portal, most aren't that good. Picking up a player that improves the team is really hard, especially since they still need to prioritize bringing in a handful of starters. So as long as they're at or below 85, why push a kid out.

But from the players perspective, do they actually believe they can earn their way into starting roles? Or like Peyton Matocha, have they accepted that they'll be relegated to the practice squad, may not travel on away games, and will play sparingly at best? Or is it because there are so many players in the portal they know they'll end up at North Dakota State vs graduating with an all-expenses paid degree from Miami.

I probably answered my own question. Just still pretty surprising to me given so many other programs have flipped half their roster.


Look, I'm not criticizing you personally. But a few things.

First, there is a difference between what we, as people outside the program, see in a "public" sense...and what is actually happening inside the program. Do you really think that Mario doesn't know who else will be leaving? Guys are about to take final exams, and if they are going to GRADUATE, they don't really need to enter the Portal anyhow. You've got another week for undergrad players to submit paperwork, and then a few days for the university to "process the paperwork", so we could see underclassmen names for the next two weeks, and then "graduating" players could announce over an even longer timeframe.

Second, why are you talking about Peyton Matocha? DO YOU EVEN SEE HIM ON THE ROSTER? That, right there, should be a dead giveaway. People have talked about how Peyton already has a job lined up. Relax.

Finally, you are acting like the standard is "so many other programs that have flipped half their roster". Why do you think that UM hasn't done the same? And think about what that means. To reach that percentage, you need a healthy number of transfers. And while some transfers will perform better at their new locations, I've never understood this baseless assumption that 1,000 or 1,500 or 2,000 players will all suddenly become better players simply by the musical-chair process of transferring. "Flipping half the roster" involves 42 new players. Outside of approximately 25 HS signees, that would require every one of these "many other programs" to bring in 17 Portal transfers each. Let's not act like that is ideal or will result in success for all of those teams.

I think you are overly concerned with whether, presumably, five more guys are leaving in the next few weeks. Which is very likely to happen as the semester ends.
 
Probably a good sign we haven’t really seen anyone new jump in post spring. For me, it’s means Mario is “comfortable” with the guys he has on the team because he did allude to the fact that some guys wouldn’t be invited back during the season last year
I can't say this for sure, but I would imagine that the guys not being invited back would have been told to transfer at the end of the season and anyone doing so now is not b/c the coaches are pushing them out, but rather they see themselves being passed up.

Maybe there could be a few exceptions due to the high turnover of the staff or if someone got in trouble between the first portal opening and now, but it just seems like it is unlikely the coaches would wait until now to push someone out.
 
Every year dozens of players enter the portal and never end up at a new school. Some guys are ok with not being a starter and enjoy the P5 experience at an expensive private school in Miami vs getting playing time at an FCS school in Arkansas.

I knew a guy who played at Miami in the late 90’s/early 2000’s but only saw the field during blowouts. He stayed for five years and got a valuable education because he knew he wasn’t NFL material and transferring to a lesser program just to get more playing time wouldn’t matter in the big picture.

Yes but that's not always realistic in today's game with the transfer portal and the leeway that new coaches get in basically cutting kids. You are more than likely not to have your schollie renewed by a school that you are sticking it out as a backup for 5 years like the example you cite.
 
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I can't say this for sure, but I would imagine that the guys not being invited back would have been told to transfer at the end of the season and anyone doing so now is not b/c the coaches are pushing them out, but rather they see themselves being passed up.

Maybe there could be a few exceptions due to the high turnover of the staff or if someone got in trouble between the first portal opening and now, but it just seems like it is unlikely the coaches would wait until now to push someone out.
Exactly that’s what I’m saying, seems like Mario already got the guys he needed out, out. Which is a good thing
 
Yes but that's not always realistic in today's game with the transfer portal and the leeway that new coaches get in basically cutting kids. You are more than likely not to have your schollie renewed by a school that you are sticking it out as a backup for 5 years like the example you cite.
Guys having their scholarship pulled for non-disciplinary reasons almost never happens though. I'm sure coaches nudge guys out the door but can you think of a single guy who got their scholarship pulled otherwise? If the guy is lazy or bad for the locker room, I get it but they're not cutting a guy who's doing everything the right way just because he can't crack the starting lineup. You still need depth pieces. Even if it's just for practice squad.
 
Guys having their scholarship pulled for non-disciplinary reasons almost never happens though. I'm sure coaches nudge guys out the door but can you think of a single guy who got their scholarship pulled otherwise? If the guy is lazy or bad for the locker room, I get it but they're not cutting a guy who's doing everything the right way just because he can't crack the starting lineup. You still need depth pieces. Even if it's just for practice squad.

huh? It's been rampant in cfb the last several years. Kids are getting processed out especially by first year coaches. NCAA created a new law giving first year coaches 18 months (IIRC) to process guys and not renew schollies. For other coaches, it's a stricter policy. What do you think Mario has been doing here the past 16 months?
 
huh? It's been rampant in cfb the last several years. Kids are getting processed out especially by first year coaches. NCAA created a new law giving first year coaches 18 months (IIRC) to process guys and not renew schollies. For other coaches, it's a stricter policy. What do you think Mario has been doing here the past 16 months?
What player had his scholarship taken away? None that I'm aware of.
 
What player had his scholarship taken away? None that I'm aware of.

Without knowing first hand (very few would, imo), look at who has entered the portal and it's some(one) from there.
 
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WR M. Redding

TE D. Mamarelli

OL M. McLaughlin, L. Seymore, R. Rodriguez, C. Washington

DE T. Davis, C. Williams
 
Not sure how many more guys you expected? Last I checked UF and Miami was hemorrhaging players like nobody else.

Gotta flip the roster and culture. Gave the kids one season to show if they can cut the mustard, and the ones that couldn't, was shown the door or high tailed it out of there
 
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