Most of the hot takes about our offense are wrong

[Astcloud11]

I would agree except om that first Card drive, their right tackle was getting off early (actually the whole game). It's totally amazing to me that teams coming in, are averaging multiple penalties, then they play us, and its zero penalties, then next game their right back to multiple penalties

FSU left tackle false starting on nearly every snap against us as well.

 

[Calinative]

Inside Tackle: 110 att, 523 yds, 4.75 yds/att, 9 tds, 29 1sts, 13 10+yds, 3.3 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.45 ydsbeforecontact/att, 22 misstackleforced; 8.18 td%, 26.36% 1st, 11.82% 10+yds.

Outside Tackle (without Jets/Reverse): 74 att, 312 yds, 4.22 yds/att, 4 tds, 29 1sts, 12 10+yds, 2.62 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.59 ydsbeforecontact/att, 18 misstackleforced; 5.41 td%, 39.20% 1st, 16.22% 10+yds.

Outside Tackle (with Jets/Reverse): 77 att, 359 yds, 4.66 yds/att, 5 tds, 32 1sts, 15 10+yds, 2.82 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.84 ydsbeforecontact/att, 19 misstackleforced; 6.49% td%, 41.60% 1st, 19.48% 10+yds.

Inside vs Outside: 58.8% att inside runs. 59.3% yds. 64.3% tds. 47.5% 1sts, 46.4% 10+yds.
So, we are basically 60/40 inside vs outside run. Yds are basically inline with that ratio. TDs score more inside - likely because in goaline we run right up the middle far more often. But we get more 1sts AND 10+yd runs running outside the tackle. And we average 0.40 yards before contact per attempt MORE on outside runs than inside runs.

Left vs Right: 44.0% att left runs. 44.0% yds. 38.5% tds. 39.7% 1sts. 40% 10+yds.
So, we are running 45/55 left vs right run. Yds are inline with that ratio. TDs score more to the right - likely because in goaline we run to Cici's side more often. We get

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A gap: 63 att, 274 yds, 4.35 yds/att, 6 tds, 14 1sts, 6 10+yds, 3.24 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.11 ydsbeforecontact/att, 10 misstackleforced; 9.52% td%, 22.22% 1st, 9.5% 10+yds.

B gap: 47 att, 249 yds, 5.30 yds/att, 3 tds, 15 1sts, 7 10+yds, 3.38 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.94 ydsbeforecontact/att, 12 misstackleforced; 6.38% td%, 31.91% 1st, 14.89% 10+yds

C gap: 27 att, 114 yds, 4.22 yds/att, 1 tds, 12 1sts, 4 10+yds, 2.59 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.63 ydsbeforecontact/att, 5 misstackleforced; 3.70% td%, 44.44% 1st, 14.81% 10+yds

D gap: 47 att, 198 yds, 4.21 yds/att, 3 tds, 17 1sts, 8 10+yds, 2.64 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.57 ydsbeforecontact/att, 13 misstackleforced; 6.38% td%, 36.17% 1st, 17.02% 10+yds

Jet/Reverse: 3 att, 47 yds, 15.67 yds/att, 1tds, 3 1sts, 3 10+yds, 7.67 ydsaftercontact/att, 8.0 ydsbeforecontact/att, 1 misstackleforced; 33.33% td%, 100% 1st, 100% 10+yds

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Left: 81 att, 367 yds, 4.53 yds/att, 5 tds, 23 1sts, 10 10+yds, 2.89 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.64 ydsbeforecontact/att, 18 misstackleforced; 6.17% td%, 28.40% 1st, 12.35% 10+yds.

Right: 103 att, 468 yds, 4.54 yds/att, 8 tds, 35 1sts, 15 10+yds, 323, 3.14 ydsaftercontact/att, 1.41 ydsbeforecontact/att, 22 misstackleforced; 7.77% td%, 33.98% 1st, 14.56% 10+yds.

 

[TheShredder]

Gus Malzahn offense is mainly running plays and nobody ever said that he coached a conservative offense.

 

[ALLoverCANE]

I point this out after every game. Good luck. This board decided that Mario is a caveman who only wants to run the ball, and they're going to stick with that narrative even when we lose because of four interceptions.

I guess the reason he leads the nation in losses as a double digit favorite is that he's not a caveman.

 

[Glow]

penalties kept killing our drives.

At some point maybe they need to assume the penalties won't stop and then adjust their pre-game plans accordingly

The Michigan offense is insanely creative.

Big OL with numerous future pros. Disciplined as all ******* ****. They averaged 3 penalties a ******* game. They are NEVER behind the sticks. They played 15 games and are 65th in the nation in raw total third downs. They allowed 4 sacks every 3 games on average. This team moves FORWARD, not backwards. They are almost always on schedule.

Oh, and they NEVER.TURN.THE.BALL.OVER. Led the nation in turnover margin because they had 8 turnovers against all season long.

That is how you have a run first oriented football team in 2023 and moving forward. You need to be creative with it. You need to play well coached, discipline football that doesn't ever shoot itself in the foot.

And you know what...Michigan bulldozed ******* everybody. Excellent team. They did this **** without their Hall of Fame level head coach for much of the season. That is the kind of team you want...men that take care of their business and don't need babysitting. You think Blake Corum is grinding the latest COD beta release? Man is grinding tape and in the gym and on the practice field. Those MF's in Ann Arbor breath, sleep, drink, eat football.

You want to know why we can't play that kind of football? Its not because its archaic (its not...it literally just won a national title) Because we are undisciplined as ****. Penalties, turnovers, just dumb **** after dumb **** on our roster doing dumb **** all of the time. We are ALWAYS behind schedule. TVD is no JJ McCarthy, but...remember Emory Williams v. Clemson and FSU? Yo...just not ******* turning the ball over had us beating and competing with the best in the ACC.

We run one of the dumbed down offenses in the nation and our head cases can't stop doing dumb ****.

Need more adults on the roster and maybe we can do this.

Michigan ball requires clean mistake-free play

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[E1k]

Both. More WR sets to spread the defense out and at least clear space for the RB checkdowns, which Beck has to do a better job of taking.

The number of times I’ve seen Lofton/Bauman miss or get blown up on blocks, coupled with the number of times I’ve seen them run totally ineffective short routes that get easily covered with minimal effort makes them useless out there.

Not mad at it but i dont know if the run game works without TEs. And i would be worried if we’re asking beck to win us games without it

This is why arroyo was so important, we could sit in 11 personnel and basically still have 4 WRs but one of them is a TE that can go in line and block. And people underrated old man cam, having TEs that can block is very important for an offense

 

[Astcloud11]

The problem isn’t always running the ball, the problem has always been the kinds of of runs he/dawson/mirabal prefer. Dives down the middle that now are starting to go nowhere since teams are keying in on it. I don’t mind running the ball, but when they don’t go anywhere because they’re too predictable, and you don’t have a prolific passing game to hide that deficiency… that’s when you start to have problems….

Someone put a stat up earlier. 59% of the run game is run between the A & B gap. If that’s the strength of the Oline and running game, fine… but you need to start disguising it, because teams are starting to figure you out.

Not asking for a wholesale change, but do something that benefits your cause. You have to be able to adapt, or you fall behind.

Our B gap runs are in line with the rest of the country. It's our A gap runs specifically that is 10% higher than it should be

 

[Impudicity2001]

Howd you get the numbers? I'm curious to dive deeper;
-Comparing these numbers to previous year's of Cristobal's offense, versus Alabama trends when he was coaching there.
-Comparing these numbers throughout Alex Mirabal's coaching background
-Game by game breakdowns to see how many games we had a good performance with mainly A instead of D gap runs, or if we have any trend breakers that leads to higher outlier performances

PFF. Yes I could go back and do a further study. I still do believe the OP that Miami got itself in terrible position to run due to penalties from the OL and the Toney PF. But there’s been 3 things I have seen this year that is holding them back: penalties, 3rd down conversions and (mis)tackling. All 3 showed up against Louisville and yet they were still in position to win/tie at the end.

 

[caneworld]

Here’s what I don’t understand…

We (like many programs) apparently have a bunch of analysts and a coaching staff paid a bunch of money. They work day and night, chart everything, “self-scout.” Lots of jobs and money on the line. Not to mention ego, pride, competitiveness, all that. By all accounts, we have all that going on just like most programs of our stature.

Some of the criticism (not just from us plebs on CIS, but also some ball knowers) is pretty straightforward stuff. Things that would seem obvious on a cursory review, let alone a deep dive of the type apparently conducted regularly within the program. We’re not talking about reinventing the wheel.

Instead it’s things like try not to be in the 100s in penalties every year. Throw in some tendency breakers. Use some variety (different run gaps, play action, **** even some wildcat if you want to get fancy). And hey, maybe implement these things as a matter of course and development. You know, before rather than after you lose because you failed to do it. Heck, maybe even take advantage of a bye week…or two. Let alone an offseason or spring.

In other words, be proactive. Anticipate. Play chess not checkers.

But it seems our answer is WORK HARDER and EXECUTE BETTER. That’s a pretty low-level analysis and strategy, no? We can do both of those things while also adapting and evolving. They aren’t mutually exclusive.

I get it if our HC is “built that way” or maybe his philosophy is meathead-ish. But there’s an entire program involved. And there’s historical data.

What’s the problem, really? It can’t be that everyone is dumb…can it? I just don’t get the same **** over and over.

Or maybe I’m a prisoner of the moment. Just overreacting.

Gino Torretta just shredded Mario and the coaches for not having the players ready for Brohm last week...

... he literally said Mario doesn't get it that in this era of NIL, it is the job of coaches to have the team ready to destroy their opponents without taking their foot off the pedal...

...everybody sees it except for our "tough and fizical" HC and his staff

 

[MiamiVice7]

Gino Torretta just shredded Mario and the coaches for not having the players ready for Brohm last week...

... he literally said Mario doesn't get it that in this era of NIL, it is the job of coaches to have the team ready to destroy their opponents without taking their foot off the pedal...

...everybody sees it except for our "tough and fizical" HC and his staff

Where can I find it?

 

[Ironmanfootball]

Not mad at it but i dont know if the run game works without TEs. And i would be worried if we’re asking beck to win us games without it

This is why arroyo was so important, we could sit in 11 personnel and basically still have 4 WRs but one of them is a TE that can go in line and block. And people underrated old man cam, having TEs that can block is very important for an offense

Can't run duo without a TE.

 

[TOcane]

Gino Torretta just shredded Mario and the coaches for not having the players ready for Brohm last week...

... he literally said Mario doesn't get it that in this era of NIL, it is the job of coaches to have the team ready to destroy their opponents without taking their foot off the pedal...

...everybody sees it except for our "tough and fizical" HC and his staff

The funny part is anyone thinking Mario just said yes guys we won 5-0 we are good you don't have to practice great this week it's a buy go have fun. Come on now.

 

[caneworld]

Where can I find it?

I think it is called Hoch, Crowder and Solana show or something like that.. there's a former Gator player on that show as one of the hosts

 

[Cane44]

Where can I find it?

Believe it was during hawk & crowder show thursday when they brought gino on. 560am or audicy

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

I guess the reason he leads the nation in losses as a double digit favorite is that he's not a caveman.

I’m a ******* weirdo. I don’t really care what a coach does as a double-digit favorites, underdog, when the wind is out of the north and the total is between 52 and 55, when you’re favored by 4 or less during the day in October……I just care if they win or lose. I know, it’s some sick ****. Nobody else thinks like this. I’m trying to get better.

 

[MiamiVice7]

I’m a ******* weirdo. I don’t really care what a coach does as a double-digit favorites, underdog, when the wind is out of the north and the total is between 52 and 55, when you’re favored by 4 or less during the day in October……I just care if they win or lose. I know, it’s some sick ****. Nobody else thinks like this. I’m trying to get better.

I’m somewhere in the middle, depends on the game/team.

Like Middle Tennessee should never happen. On the other hand, the Louisville loss hurt of course, but the spread means nothing to me there. They are a good football team, capable of beating almost anybody. I won’t pretend it’s some kind of shocker.

 

[DRC]

A lot of the things people are saying we run are likely things we don’t do well/ can’t do well in practice. and if we can’t do it well in practice, it making it into a game.

like the sweeps people keep asking for. not sure we really want any linemen other than samson pulling consistently. and our best tailbacks would be ineffective going east/west.

Dawson isn’t going to get up on the podium and say “we only do X because that’s all we’re good at”

 

[AtrainCane]

He’s actually been quite accurate. 25/35 last week, which is excellent. Most of the short throws have been in an area to provide plenty of YAC. Aside from the UiF game, he’s been very accurate. The problem Friday was he didn’t make good decisions. The ball to Toney wasn’t inaccurate, it was just into three defenders. The last pick was a miscommunication, not an errant ball. The one on 4th down was just a desperation heave because it was 4th down. The one to Marion wasn’t a great throw or decision. Ball needs to be higher and to the outside, but honestly shouldn’t have been thrown.

He’s currently 12th in America in completion percentage and played the first month of games in rain storms. I’m not worried about his arm at all. It’s fine. His brain is what needs to work better for us to run the table.

Completion percentage does not tell the whole story. Guys are reaching back slowing down and having to adjust to badly thrown balls. Was the ball to Cormani a bad decision or bad ball placement. Because if that pass is thrown down the field and not short it’s a touchdown not a pick. I would love to watch all 22 film with people on this board to see what they actually know. And that isn’t directed solely at you. Youre pretty knowledgeable. Yea he hits some throws, but he misses quite a few too.

It’s really noticeable on throws where he has to drive the ball. If I noticed it im sure defensive coordinators who make millions have too. Just something to keep an eye on.

 

[Disgustipated]

I’m a ******* weirdo. I don’t really care what a coach does as a double-digit favorites, underdog, when the wind is out of the north and the total is between 52 and 55, when you’re favored by 4 or less during the day in October……I just care if they win or lose. I know, it’s some sick ****. Nobody else thinks like this. I’m trying to get better.

I actually think just like this but I'm also not a gambler. I'm assuming most of the peeps talking about point spreads are gamblers. Losing is the easiest thing to do. Any team can lose. Who can you beat though, that more important. No one will give a **** that Bama lost to FSU, just like no one cared that the Irish lost to NIU last year and Taint lost to a bad Michigan team that didn't even have a QB! Their offense also only scored 10pts in the game with NFL football players all over the offense.

 

[OrangeBowlMagic]

Completion percentage does not tell the whole story. Guys are reaching back slowing down and having to adjust to badly thrown balls. Was the ball to Cormani a bad decision or bad ball placement. Because if that pass is thrown down the field and not short it’s a touchdown not a pick. I would love to watch all 22 film with people on this board to see what they actually know. And that isn’t directed solely at you. Youre pretty knowledgeable. Yea he hits some throws, but he misses quite a few too.

It’s really noticeable on throws where he has to drive the ball. If I noticed it im sure defensive coordinators who make millions have too. Just something to keep an eye on.

The one to Cormani was late. That’s his brain, not his arm. I’m not saying he’s prime Drew Brees but aside from the uf game, where he was genuinely awful throwing the ball, there hasn’t been a game where I’ve thought he was inaccurate. Completion percentage doesn’t tell the whole story, you’re right, but there aren’t a lot of inaccurate QBs completing 70% of their passes. If you think he’s been inaccurate, ok. But that’s far down on the list of issues, IMO. His accuracy is plenty good enough to beat everyone we play. He’s generally putting the ball where it needs to be.