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Most Disappointing 1st Yr for HCs 2022

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Absolutely no doubt that Mario has the honor of having the most disappointing first year as a new head coach. And of course, he had the privilege of being the head coach of the absolute worst and most embarrassing loss that Miami ever had…MTSU. But despite all this, I still think he will “right the ship” and turn things around.
 
LawyerCane said:
Absolutely no doubt that Mario has the honor of having the most disappointing first year as a new head coach. And of course, he had the privilege of being the head coach of the absolute worst and most embarrassing loss that Miami ever had…MTSU. But despite all this, I still think he will “right the ship” and turn things around.
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Can u pls stop w the exaggeration.

MTSU is actually going to a bowl game this season & have beaten P5 teams b4. They also have a .560 win % in its history, w/ 10+ conference titles. The most embarrassing loss Miami has ever had came in 2019 against FIU who never beat a P5 team in its entire history, & have a program winning % of .316.
 
Rellyrell said:
Can u pls stop w the exaggeration.

MTSU is actually going to a bowl game this season & have beaten P5 teams b4. They also have a .560 win % in its history, w/ 10+ conference titles. The most embarrassing loss Miami has ever had came in 2019 against FIU who never beat a P5 team in its entire history, & have a program winning % of .316.
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Agree. FIU was so rock bottom, there isn't even a word for it.
 
Dude said:
Agree. FIU was so rock bottom, there isn't even a word for it.
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Exactly. Nothing will top FIU unless FIU eventually get their chit together & beat multiple P5 teams in the future. FIU may be the worst FBS team, period, & they embarrassed us at our old crib in uniforms called “Miami Nights.”

UNC was a Rocky Horror flick, but FIU was by far the most embarrassing loss since the 70’s. MTSU actually turned out to be a decent team this yr, & so did Duke.
 
Rellyrell said:
Can u pls stop w the exaggeration.

MTSU is actually going to a bowl game this season & have beaten P5 teams b4. They also have a .560 win % in its history, w/ 10+ conference titles. The most embarrassing loss Miami has ever had came in 2019 against FIU who never beat a P5 team in its entire history, & have a program winning % of .316.
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I get what you are saying, but MTSU beat exactly ZERO teams with a winning record this year. None. Anyone with a pulse beat them.

Still, FIU was a brutal loss, and was a sign of how bad things were. MTSU was the same.
 
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Rellyrell said:
Exactly. Nothing will top FIU unless FIU eventually get their chit together & beat multiple P5 teams in the future. FIU may be the worst FBS team, period, & they embarrassed us at our old crib in uniforms called “Miami Nights.”

UNC was a Rocky Horror flick, but FIU was by far the most embarrassing loss since the 70’s. MTSU actually turned out to be a decent team this yr, & so did Duke.
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With Butch as their HC was the cherry on top.
 
ThomasM said:
I get what you are saying, but MTSU beat exactly ZERO teams with a winning record this year. None. Anyone with a pulse beat them.

Still, FIU was a brutal loss, and was a sign of how bad things were. MTSU was the same.
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Again, the term that was used is worst loss in program’s history. That’s called a hyperbolic statement. Losing to MTSU was unacceptable, but at least MTSU have bodies on its résumé & have a winning record as a program. Noooone of that is applicable w/ FIU.

We can all be upset, angry, disappointed or any other negative feeling we have for losing to MTSU, but let’s not forget FIU is by far thee worst lost in this program’s history.

Furthermore, yes MTSU haven’t beat a team w/ a winning record this yr; but, doing a side by side comparison w/ MTSU’s 7-5 record vs. FIU’s 2019 6-7 record:
-the 7 wins of MTSU had a combined 29-44 record
-the 6 wins of FIU had a combined 22-51 record

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Rellyrell said:
Again, the term that was used is worst loss in program’s history. That’s called a hyperbolic statement. Losing to MTSU was unacceptable, but at least MTSU have bodies on its résumé & have a winning record as a program. Noooone of that is applicable w/ FIU.

We can all be upset, angry, disappointed or any other negative feeling we have for losing to MTSU, but let’s not forget FIU is by far thee worst lost in this program’s history.

Furthermore, yes MTSU haven’t beat a team w/ a winning record this yr; but, doing a side by side comparison w/ MTSU’s 7-5 record vs. FIU’s 2019 6-7 record:
-the 7 wins of MTSU had a combined 29-44 record
-the 6 wins of FIU had a combined 22-51 record

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I don't disagree with anything you just said. However, there is one important variable. We lost to MTSU with a freaking 10 million dollar staff. That is really, really, really bad. That has to account for something.

Also, FIU is still a relatively new program, so their percentage is skewed by this. Also, ironically enough, Mario Cristobal was part of that losing tradition at FIU, going 27-47. So you can thank him for part of that horrible record. I know, I know, he inherited a bad team and made it better, but then was fired when the program began to slip, badly.

My point is this. We went into this season with high expectations. We went out and paid for the most expensive staff we've had, by far. Then to look like that against MTSU is really sickening. When you buy what you think is a Bugati, but you lose a race to a Honda Civic, it's a bad look.

I get it, the FIU loss was maybe the worst. Right up there with the FAMU loss. Just something about the MTSU loss was just harder to fathom at the time it happened. When we lost to FIU, it was bad, really bad, but it almost felt expected, given how poorly we had played up to that point.

Any way you slice it, both losses were brutal.
 
ThomasM said:
I don't disagree with anything you just said. However, there is one important variable. We lost to MTSU with a freaking 10 million dollar staff. That is really, really, really bad. That has to account for something.

Also, FIU is still a relatively new program, so their percentage is skewed by this. Also, ironically enough, Mario Cristobal was part of that losing tradition at FIU, going 27-47. So you can thank him for part of that horrible record. I know, I know, he inherited a bad team and made it better, but then was fired when the program began to slip, badly.

My point is this. We went into this season with high expectations. We went out and paid for the most expensive staff we've had, by far. Then to look like that against MTSU is really sickening. When you buy what you think is a Bugati, but you lose a race to a Honda Civic, it's a bad look.

I get it, the FIU loss was maybe the worst. Right up there with the FAMU loss. Just something about the MTSU loss was just harder to fathom at the time it happened. When we lost to FIU, it was bad, really bad, but it almost felt expected, given how poorly we had played up to that point.

Any way you slice it, both losses were brutal.
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I’m not sure why a dollar figure is in place, b/c u forget we paid $9m in yr 1 for Manny due to his buyout + salary & we paid $1m for his OC in Enos (aka $10m+)

And let’s not act like we didn’t go in to 2019 w/ high expectations. Lol. This was:
- 2 yrs removed from an ACC Coastal
- 1 yr removed from having a top 3 def
- TNM was coined
- El Jefe was given as a title
- We were assured we’ll be kicking everyone’s *** as we’ll be implementing a new O w/ a killer defense.

I know it’s very hard to not live in the now, but I’ll appoint myself as The Archive for this board to jog ur memory of yesterday.
 
Rellyrell said:
I’m not sure why a dollar figure is in place, b/c u forget we paid $9m in yr 1 for Manny due to his buyout + salary & we paid $1m for his OC in Enos (aka $10m+)

And let’s not act like we didn’t go in to 2019 w/ high expectations. Lol. This was:
- 2 yrs removed from an ACC Coastal
- 1 yr removed from having a top 3 def
- TNM was coined
- El Jefe was given as a title
- We were assured we’ll be kicking everyone’s *** as we’ll be implementing a new O w/ a killer defense.

I know it’s very hard to not live in the now, but I’ll appoint myself as The Archive for this board to jog ur memory of yesterday.
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Again, I agree the FIU loss was terrible.

We ALL thought it was the worst loss in UM history at the time, even if it wasn't actually that shocking considering how the season had played out up to that point.

Let me put it this way. Had we just ended the season with a loss to MTSU after the other pitiful losses we had, would it have seemed as bad? No. It would have almost been expected. When it happened, it was shocking. How it happened was shocking. Manny getting outcoached by Butch Davis was NOT shocking. Just the fact he beat us with that team stung so **** bad because of when, who the coach was, and even where the game was played. Those factors made it 100% unacceptable. It just wasn't as shocking, to me, as the MTSU game. Unacceptable, **** yeah.
 
Rellyrell said:
Can u pls stop w the exaggeration.

MTSU is actually going to a bowl game this season & have beaten P5 teams b4. They also have a .560 win % in its history, w/ 10+ conference titles. The most embarrassing loss Miami has ever had came in 2019 against FIU who never beat a P5 team in its entire history, & have a program winning % of .316.
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Bringing the facts my brother. Well done. I think this year just hurts more because it's recent and many fans had super high expectations
 
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Home Slice said:
Bringing the facts my brother. Well done. I think this year just hurts more because it's recent and many fans had super high expectations
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I’ve said from the beginning stop drinking The Kool Aid. That’s exactly what happened & y there’s more anguish this season. I totally get it.

We finally committed to FB, & whether those who wanted him here or not, hired a guy w/ a very good P5 resume as a HC & AHC. Then we hired the best staff, on paper, that received praised from most major outlets. Again I get it; however, as a Canes fan that truly is about this O&G life, I didn’t see a ACCCG or bust squad. I’ve said for yrs a lot of these players (bless their hearts) were not Miami caliber. Initially I thought it was a coaching problem w/ these guys, until I sat back this off season, broke down the roster, including transfers & realized it’s been a coaching & talent issue here.

We’ve had more fringe 4 stars than a little bit, plus a grip of diamond in the roughs (once dubbed a Shannon & Golden special) w/ only a select few ballers. That’s y we’ve been reminded for months by @ItsAUThing.com that Miami has historically been, since 2004, consistently a 7-5 team. I further proved through data we’ve been the very definition of a mid ACC team, particularly these last few seasons.

So last yr we’re 7-5, lost 58% of our offensive production tied w/in 2 guys (which is an indictment in itself); then to further complicate things, we lose player after player after player on O this season? Brother, my hopes of winning 8 games vanished.

BUT, that doesn’t excuse the entirety of this season. Mario MUST make changes to this staff, PERIOD. There’s just some things that’s inexcusable, like scoring 16 ppg against P5 opponents. Idgaf if we have FCS level of talent throughout 1-85, in today’s game of FB it’s unimaginable to be able to muster ONLY two TDs/game, & those two TDs were considered lucky. FOH w/ that bull chit.
 
ThomasM said:
Again, I agree the FIU loss was terrible.

We ALL thought it was the worst loss in UM history at the time, even if it wasn't actually that shocking considering how the season had played out up to that point.

Let me put it this way. Had we just ended the season with a loss to MTSU after the other pitiful losses we had, would it have seemed as bad? No. It would have almost been expected. When it happened, it was shocking. How it happened was shocking. Manny getting outcoached by Butch Davis was NOT shocking. Just the fact he beat us with that team stung so **** bad because of when, who the coach was, and even where the game was played. Those factors made it 100% unacceptable. It just wasn't as shocking, to me, as the MTSU game. Unacceptable, **** yeah.
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I’ll put like this w/ MTSU; when I saw the Nike emblem….lol, j/k.

Honestly, when the 1st play of the game is a T.O, that’s a ?mark. When the 2nd play of the game is a pick 6, that’s a heart stopper. When the 3rd play of the game is a fumble deep in our territory, well that’s just fate. What I didn’t expect was the defense giving up 300+ yards to 3 guys on 7 receptions!
 
MTSU may not be the worst loss, but it’s **** close. The fact it’s even up for discussion shows there has to be some merit to it.

Regardless, this has been the worst season I’ve witnessed in my four decades plus of being a fan.

That includes the probation years.

All that being said, I’m 100% certain far better days ahead.
 
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